Veyron

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Well for one thing it only seats 2 people and its emphasis is on speed
If you saw one in real life you would see how luxurious they are with everything you could want inside. Two seats makes it not luxury? Better tell just about every car manufacturer out there with the exception of Rolls Royce that 2 seats = roughin' it.
 
If you saw one in real life you would see how luxurious they are with everything you could want inside. Two seats makes it not luxury? Better tell just about every car manufacturer out there with the exception of Rolls Royce that 2 seats = roughin' it.
The interior always somehow reminds me of a 1950s diner.
 
I think it is funny how some people will defend this car and indicate that people who don't like it must not be able to drive.

The fact is the car is to heavy and that causes it to handle very badly. It does not slow down well at all, it does not corner well, it is hard on tires, even harder on fuel and it is possibly the ugliest car I have saw in a long time. Lots of people rave about it, most those who can not drive it but think it is great because it goes so fast.

Yes I could take it and win most of the career races with it if I tried but I could win those same races much easier with a lot of other cars and enjoy doing it much more.

I do think the car drives better in GT than it does in Forza but it still drives like a brick.

The one thing I have yet to see is that car win a race on any track that does not have a straight over 2 miles long

The point lies more in, I'm defending it, because too many people think it sucks, but it does its job with more than 5 stars! I love this car because I can take on hard races with the CPU using LMP cars, on different (not all) tracks.
Heck I even raced this thing in one of the hardest Nurburgring event races in GT5 and won with it...
It slows down quite good for the speed you can drive with it, but sometimes you don't see how fast you're even going!

Opinions on how it looks, is everyone's own. It's not the best looking car, but definately not the worst either (have you seen the McLaren P1 lol?!) and the quality is top notch, because VW built it.

Try and master the car and take up your friends LMP cars with it, it's going to be hard but so much fun, if you still can win sometimes!! It's on that point you think this car will get cooler and cooler. (but then again most average drivers can't even turn it, and then most people start complaining on its handling, which is a shame, due its potential!)
 
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If you saw one in real life you would see how luxurious they are with everything you could want inside. Two seats makes it not luxury? Better tell just about every car manufacturer out there with the exception of Rolls Royce that 2 seats = roughin' it.
Every manufacturer? Most do not make luxury cars and those that do generally make them nice and roomy to seat at least 4 adults comfortably. Some of those luxury car makers also make sports cars but there is a difference between a sports car and a luxury car and the few attempts at a luxury sports car fall a bit short in that they are either not much in terms of comfort or not much in terms of performance.
The point lies more in, I'm defending it, because too many people think it sucks, but it does its job with more than 5 stars! I love this car because I can take on hard races with the CPU using LMP cars, on different (not all) tracks.
Heck I even raced this thing in one of the hardest Nurburgring event races in GT5 and won with it...
It slows down quite good for the speed you can drive with it, but sometimes you don't see how fast you're even going!
I wonder which race that would be? Most of the races, make that all of the races on the ring were fairly easy from my point of view, even the one that some people on here were calling impossible I was able to win on the first try without tuning the car. I'm sure I could win with the Veyron on that track but I would not want to, I could easily beat the Veyron with a lesser car and enjoy it more.
Try and master the car and take up your friends LMP cars with it, it's going to be hard but so much fun, if you still can win sometimes!! It's on that point you think this car will get cooler and cooler. (but then again most average drivers can't even turn it, and then most people start complaining on its handling, which is a shame, due its potential!)
Not interested and my friends are pretty quick in an LMP some of them don't drive anything but and the Veyron would not stand a snowballs chance on any track other than SSX.
 
Well for one thing it only seats 2 people and its emphasis is on speed
That's it? Luxury doesn't just mean four seats. Like it or not, it does have very high class & comfortable interior. Yes, it's known for it's power and speed. But it's also known for it's comfort and easiness for daily use. It's a car of status. It's numbers and simply a tech marvel.

What it's not known for is pounding tracks, or setting time records on international tracks. It's not a Gumpert. It's not a FXX. It's a luxury item.
 
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When it comes down to it the car is a piece of crap plain and simple. There is always going to be people that will tune it up and say its great just for the sake of wanting a arguement....
 
That's it? Luxury doesn't just mean four seats. Like it or not, it does have very high class & comfortable interior. Yes, it's known for it's power and speed. But it's also known for it's comfort and easiness for daily use. It's a car of status. It's numbers and simply a tech marvel.
No luxury does not mean seating for 4 but that sure helps. One of the main things a luxury car needs is a very comfortable ride which I kind of doubt the Veyron has. When you look up a listing for a Veyron it is described as a "sports car" not as a luxury car, I would imagine that it has a stiff ride and not all that comfortable to ride in, especially when you have to stop for gas every few minutes ;)

In the end it doesn't matter if they call it luxury or not, it is simply a big, heavy, poor handling, very fast in a straight line, very expensive eye sore
 
No luxury does not mean seating for 4 but that sure helps. One of the main things a luxury car needs is a very comfortable ride which I kind of doubt the Veyron has. When you look up a listing for a Veyron it is described as a "sports car" not as a luxury car, I would imagine that it has a stiff ride and not all that comfortable to ride in, especially when you have to stop for gas every few minutes ;)

In the end it doesn't matter if they call it luxury or not, it is simply a big, heavy, poor handling, very fast in a straight line, very expensive eye sore
When you say a big, heavy, expensive eye sore im not sure if this is about the veyron or my ex. Both arent very comfortable rides either!
 
No luxury does not mean seating for 4 but that sure helps. One of the main things a luxury car needs is a very comfortable ride which I kind of doubt the Veyron has. When you look up a listing for a Veyron it is described as a "sports car" not as a luxury car, I would imagine that it has a stiff ride and not all that comfortable to ride in, especially when you have to stop for gas every few minutes ;)

In the end it doesn't matter if they call it luxury or not, it is simply a big, heavy, poor handling, very fast in a straight line, very expensive eye sore
Obviously you haven't seen many car reviews… Watch the original Top Gear Veyron race on StreetFire or something, JC makes all sorts of comments on how the thing somehow manages to be massively fast and massively comfortable at the same time. It isn't the quickest, it can easily be beaten by Konnigseggs (however you go about spelling it) nowadays, but at those high speeds, everyone comments at how the car really feels it's at it's limit and is about to explode at any time - this just doesn't exist in the Veyron. May was going 240+ MPH in the stripped-down SS version and still made that statement.
 
I saw the Top Gear episodes, doesn't change anything
Well maybe that episode doesn't quite summarize it… Top Gear openly admits over time that The BV is just way too heavy for a track car, so it isn't really the ultimate racing machine. But it is quite apparent that it is one of the greatest driving machines out there - it's more of a luxury sports car hybrid than anything else. The Bugatti wasn't designed for lap times, it was made purely to make (seemingly) impossible specs… possible. And it did. 1000HP, fastest production car top speed, and somehow includes an excellent ride and interior. That's why it costs VW at least 5 times more to build than to sell.
 
With the stock sports hard tires the Veyron is pretty difficult to handle, but I put on some sports soft tires yesterday around Spa and wow... made the world of difference. The car became so easily drivable and was an absolute joy to drive. I also took it for a spin on Ascari to see if it was just the track (I knew it wasn't cause it just handled so well) and it was great around there as well. Very fun car to drive with sports soft tires, seriously.

Also experienced the same thing with the Enzo. With sports hards it understeers tremendously but softs definitely fix that.
 
That's the sort of answer I get from my 10 year old daughter... :p
However accurate or amusing that statement may be, all it does is potentially ignite an extended and pointless argument.
 
However accurate or amusing that statement may be, all it does is potentially ignite an extended and pointless argument.

I know and you are right, but regardless if people like the car or not, you cannot make a statement like that, when the debate is still going. Like it or hate it, you gotta expose your arguments and points across. The OP is asking for feedback, and feedback is being given. That kind of answer to me, is more on the terms of "I don't want to play anymore, it's my ball and I'm going in, so therefore I win!"
 
I said this before and I will say it again, the people who complain about the Veyron, just cannot handle it, that's it!
It's one of the best cars ever made, has good quality, what most cars even miss. Yeah it turns harder, but its speed will make that good on the straights.

Exactly, but if you watch an episode if TopGear, Presenter Richard Hammond says that the car, on a straight line can practically outrun a top-class Formula 1 car, despite it weighing 1,500 kilos more than a F1 car. Talking about power, despite the car only has 1,000 horsepower, is able to overtake a 900 hp Formula 1 car.
 
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Exactly, but if you watch an episode if TopGear, Presenter Richard Hammond says that the car, on a straight line can practically outrun a top-class Formula 1 car, despite it weighing 1,500 kilos more than a F1 car. Talking about power, despite the car only has 1,000 horsepower, is able to overtake a 900 hp Formula 1 car.
F1 cars aren't that fast, relatively, in a straight line because of the downforce they generate. The fastest s/l speeds are at Monza - ~230mph and that's with the DRS activated. At most tracks they rarely top 200mph. (Also an F1 engine has about 750bhp +86hp from the KERS)
 
in my previous save game, I drove the Veyron in the S5 event and it was the first time I'd ever used the Veyron in a game. Having read previous comments about the event I was expecting something that was barely driveable, needed to brake at double the normal distance and was likely to have me in the grass every other corner. But, on my first try with it I got within 4 seconds of the gold time and I found it to be quite easy to handle, even with my late braking technique (though I was braking slightly earlier). For it's size, I didn't find the braking bad or anything and the understeer was there but not bad enough to make me hate the car. Overall, I enjoyed using it but probably wouldn't use it in a lot of events
 
F1 cars aren't that fast, relatively, in a straight line because of the downforce they generate. The fastest s/l speeds are at Monza - ~230mph and that's with the DRS activated. At most tracks they rarely top 200mph. (Also an F1 engine has about 750bhp +86hp from the KERS)

In a 1/2 mile, the Veyron can outrun the F1. Even with DRS activated.
 
In a 1/2 mile, the Veyron can outrun the F1. Even with DRS activated.
What's your point? My point is that F1 cars are inhibited by their downforce, which at full speed effectively makes them weigh more than the Veyron. Also F1 engines are tiny for their power output and have ridiculously low torque. F1 cars are about high g-force bends and stupid stopping distances. Comparing the Veyron to an F1 car is like comparing Concorde to a Tornado.
 
No luxury does not mean seating for 4 but that sure helps. One of the main things a luxury car needs is a very comfortable ride which I kind of doubt the Veyron has. When you look up a listing for a Veyron it is described as a "sports car" not as a luxury car, I would imagine that it has a stiff ride and not all that comfortable to ride in, especially when you have to stop for gas every few minutes ;)

In the end it doesn't matter if they call it luxury or not, it is simply a big, heavy, poor handling, very fast in a straight line, very expensive eye sore
So by reading this post. You've considered yourself heavily opinionated without any knowledge,and without the will to learn beyond what you've experienced in a video game simulator?

Every car with two doors is generally classified as a "Sports Car". Everything with two doors. :lol:

You should stop. This thread is pretty pointless now.
 
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So by reading this post. You've considered yourself heavily opinionated without any knowledge,and without the will to learn beyond what you've experienced in a video game simulator?

Every car with two doors is generally classified as a "Sports Car". Everything with two doors. :lol:

You should stop. This thread is pretty pointless now.

Wow, how did you get that from what I posted? Did I ever say anything about 2 doors? No I did not. You are making it up as you go now it seems.

Want an example of a luxury car with 2 doors how about a Cadillac Coupe Deville, Can seat 6 adults, rides like you are on a cloud.

However a 2 seater built for speed and classified as a sports car I generally call a sports car.

As for the Top gear episodes. I saw those before I ever drove the car in any game so that was my first exposure to it. Then I bought it in Forza and drove it and it was horrible, I won it in GT5 it was better but still not good, possibly better in GT6 but still not good. So like I said it changes nothing.
 
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I'll challenge myself to a Ring lap in a stock Veyron when I get GT6. This thing might barely fall into Supercar C class, or less, Sports A class.
 
Is it just me or does the Veyron handle like a boat?

Obviously its not going to act like an FGT on the track but I do agree that it does seem that the under steer is a bit more pronounced than it was in GT5. That being said I think its possible that this is a bit closer to what it truly handles like (I have never driven a Veyron but if you think about it, a heavy, AWD beast like the Veyron is probably a bit lazy in the corners.)

That being said, in the right circumstances it can still be used quite effectively as a butt-kicking piece of machinery. Circuits with plenty of straights are usually the bread and butter of the properly tweaked/tuned Veyron.

Regardless of that there are very few/if any specific situationsnį
 
"Nearly as spectacular as the hammer-blow power delivery when the corner’s over, or the chuckability when you get to the next. I could describe this car as the Lotus Elise’s big brother. So I will. It’s that good."
http://www.topgear.com/au/jeremy-clarkson/clarkson-veyron-2006-01-01

This thread inspired me to fork out the 2,000,000 Cr and I must say I don't think the game version is that bad either. For sure there's understeer, especially on sport hards. But I think most problems people are having with it are because they don't realize the ridiculous speed they're arriving with at the corners (the long gearing makes it extra deceptive as you're often in the same gear as usual). You just need to brake earlier than you think. A lot. Other than that I don't think it's really much worse around the corners than most of the other road cars.
With weight reduction, tweaked suspension and sports softs it's a riot at Deep Forest ;)
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