I'm really curious what VW is going to do with all these, still good but very toxic, cars.
Is the implication here that diesels are crappy or that VW makes a crappy diesel?The saddest bit of this story is how many people thought buying a crappy diesel was a good idea in the first place.
Is the implication here that diesels are crappy or that VW makes a crappy diesel?
Also, is "crappy" a technical term? If so, what precisely does it indicate? Or is it just personal bias coming through?
This neatly illustrates one of the problems with the Dieselgate thing if it's being pushed as an environmental imperative.VW offered me more than I bought it for, which led to me buying my '92 Cummins.
Okay then...from an engineering perspective; what makes them "a bit crap?" Please elaborate.Diesels are crappy. It's an engineering term, meaning a bit crap.
Okay then...from an engineering perspective; what makes them "a bit crap?" Please elaborate.
I'm pretty ignorant when it comes to diesels, and my only experience with them involves the occasional driving of a large Ford truck powered by one, for the purposes of towing a boat or a horse trailer.
Which part of the middle east are you talking about? Levant? Iran? peninsula? Egypt?Maybe VW will send them to the middle east.
Fair enough. Can't say I agree with everything stated prior but I have no strong feelings either way about the subject matter.Fun is good, diesel is bad. All IMHO, of course
I gather you don't do much commuting.This seems both correct and wrong at the same time.
I gather you don't do much commuting.
I'm not sure people "hate" driving as such, but most seem to have absolutely no interest in it, other than as a means of getting from one place to another without having to resort to public transport. That's why they seem to spend most of the time on their phones. Because they're not actively looking for an engaging driving experience, they just settle for whatever fits their perceived cheapest-possible-option motoring may be. In many cases, that's a diesel, even though it may actually work out cheaper for them to put a cheaper, lighter petrol engine in their low-use city car which would in many cases give them a more interesting drive.Anyway, the way @Factor41 worded that just makes it seem like most people are fine with a mediocre driving experience, which I can see being somewhat it, but isn't it just that most people full-out hate driving? That's why I said it seems both correct and wrong at the same time, because while most people won't go out of their way to have an engaging drive, they're far from them being "happy" and not just settling for subpar, because they'd rather not drive period. Although I do suppose this goes a bit beyond what the thread is for.
I've been exposed to a wide range of diesel engines and – other than in trucks, trains and boats – there always seems to be a better alternative. It's no doubt very impressive what Audi achieved at Le Mans, but man, those cars dulled the experience - it was like watching the race with the noise turned down, so they get marked down for ruining motorsport too!Seems to me like the only diesel you're exposed to would be this, an engine that's actually crappy.
Which part of the middle east are you talking about? Levant? Iran? peninsula? Egypt?
Because in the Gulf States, the only Golf's i ever see on the roads are the GTI and the R models:
Not to mention that Volkswagen never sold the Diesel versions in the Gulf Market so VW owners didn't really get effected by Diesel Gate. Diesels are something you think of when you think of trucks and buses, not cars over here. Most of the passenger cars runs on Petrol and no one wants a diesel car. Perhaps in countries with much more expensive fuel, maybe.