W.M.A. International Touring Car Championship-Season Wrap-Up!

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1:01s are my first laps around here offline. I can keep that pace until pit stops come around. I'm still torn on which car to use. I'm thinking BMW, then I'm thinking Civic hatch, and then I miss my scirocco, but theres my other secret weapon made by Mitsubishi... decisions, decisions.

Well, you have until Friday to request a car. That doesn`t mean that you have to use it, it just means that if you`re going to request a Civic hatch not already in the Car List, or a newer gen Lancer, you should do it quickly. In fact, *I* might request to put the new Lancers in.
 
It's not a Lancer ;) it's the FTO. 1080kg (or 1100kg) @276hp.
 
Alright. It`s in the car list.
 
It already was. I just haven't used it.
 
We should test later, if anyone is interested.
 
I am interested in what lap times will be by Saturday. If we are at 59.8 already. I hope to break the 1.00 mark by today.
 
Im only at the 1:00 mark. That chicane is throwing me all off. Never raced this track like that before. I'll work on it though.
 
Im only at the 1:00 mark. That chicane is throwing me all off. Never raced this track like that before. I'll work on it though.

Try to hug the inside line on the Dunlop bridge turn before it. i try to run the straightest line possible through it.
 
BMW Jormo Racing will sponsor a works vehicle to anyone interested in joining the team ...

Please PM me if intrested
 
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That BMW Jormo Racing 135i is a great handling car.
 
However we were making lundges on each other, to get an idea how late you can break to get past and still make the corner. When i did this i found overtaking and sliding to get past had a massive effect on the tyre wear as the track is so tight.

Keep in mind, late braking passes are limited. If you don't have your front tires in front of the rear tires of the car ahead of you at the point that braking begins, you must concede the racing line to the car ahead of you, meaning you have to slow slightly and allow them unfettered access to any line they wish to take through the corner, without interference.
 
Keep in mind, late braking passes are limited. If you don't have your front tires in front of the rear tires of the car ahead of you at the point that braking begins, you must concede the racing line to the car ahead of you, meaning you have to slow slightly and allow them unfettered access to any line they wish to take through the corner, without interference.

Good point. As a steward that will be what I am looking for.
 
cnd01
Good point. As a steward that will be what I am looking for.

Seeing as tho you are a steward how can I get into your good books? wink wink nudge nudge ... lol

Wohoo 100 posts ...!!!
 
Seeing as tho you are a steward how can I get into your good books? wink wink nudge nudge ... lol

Wohoo 100 posts ...!!!

As of right now you have done nothing wrong. I wish we could have run some more laps together. I know it must be hard getting a connection in South Africa with people in Europe and the Americas.
 
I have a feeling every pass will be contested and become a problem. That's the problem with these 'rules'.
 
Seth, then the only person who suffers is me. :)

Seriously, if everyone disputes every pass, and they're all clean, then there's no problem. But, if no one disputes a dirty pass, grudges begin to form.
 
I've raced a dozen or more series under GTPlanet Rules that involved probably literally thousands of passes. Anyone who commits to the GTPlanet Rules usually calls violations on themselves during the race if it happens at all. If someone is the type of person who likes to push boundaries and pay lipservice to rules, then no it won't be fun for them. If you can't tell whether your front wheels are in front of the back wheels of the person you are trailing when you hit the brakes then organized racing isn't for you (generic "you")

In the Alfa Zagato Series for example, we all ran the same car and had many 2, 3, 4 and 5 car battles that lasted from flag to flag. 4 dates a week, 2 races per date (second race reverse grid) for 6 weeks. Probably average 10 drivers per race, maybe more. That is...let's see...10,000+ laps driven with only a couple of incidents called into question. We did have several knock ups, it is racing after all, but 75% of the time it was sorted out on the track by slowing up and letting the person you affected get back ahead of you, or if in doubt, you wait until after the race, most guys watch the replay and call penalties on themselves, they didn't need to wait for someone to tell them they did something wrong.

I recall vividly that in the first race, on the second lap, someone missed their braking point coming off the banking at Daytona and came up inside of me causing me to get into the grass. Afterwards he apologized and that was it, it was just a mistake, neither one of us was looking for a penalty, end of story. What I also remember is, that was the only contact I had all series where my car was even moved off the racing line, let alone off the track.

You have to have some clear rules as to when a pass is allowed otherwise it's just chaos, with everyone having their own idea of what is a legal pass. You can't race that way, going into every corner, having no idea what the guy behind you is going to do. "I've already braked and turned down to the apex is he going to come diving down inside of me?" or, "Our front noses are even and I'm on the outside, is he going to be able to hold the inside line?" or, "He's inside of me as we start to brake but he has no overlap, do I need to leave him room?" etc. You can't race like that. You need to know what the other guy is going to do and what you and his responsbility is on the track. It just makes for much more enjoyable, cleaner racing.

The dispute process should begin not with a PM to the stewards, but a PM to the other person involved. Like so:

"Hey Seth, race 1, lap 2, I think you divebombed me in the second corner and pushed me into the gravel, can you take a look at the replay and tell me what you think?"

"Yeah Johnny, sorry about that, but Midget was behind me and he bumped me under braking and it pushed me into you, sorry mate"

"Oh sorry Seth, I didn't see that, thanks, no problem"


You can't just dump all this on the stewards, you have to try and work it out yourselves. We're not children, we don't have to go running to the teacher every time little Johnny spits a watermelon seed at us. Try to work out your differences and if you can't, then PM a steward, with an exact description of the incident including the time on the replay and what rules you think the other person violated.
 
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Wednesday Night Practice

Will be opening up a lobby tomorrow around 6pm est. or so if anybody wants to get some practice laps in. Also maybe some practice races if enough drivers show up.
 
I'm game Norm.


Johnny, again, unless otherwise stated in our rules, we're using the rules of the GTPlanet OLRs.
 
Norm, I saw that you got on as I got off. I would have practiced with you but I had to take a shower before the game came on.

Anyway, would you mind PM'ing me your times to Tsukuba? Just want to compare times.
 
I have a suggestion for you Mel. Would you mind if we held practice sessions/races in your lounge? That way we don't have to worry about pubbers coming in and mucking things up, everyone knows where to go for practice as opposed to always having to post a room number etc. Someone just has to post, "I'm in Mel's lounge for practice or will be at such and such a time"...etc", any time they go online or are planning to

Alternately, a lot of Race Organizers set up a dedicated profile, for eg ITCC_RACEROOM1, everyone "friends" that profile and all racing and practicing can be done there.
 
The normal season races are being held in my lounge, yes.


I need to change some settings, if you want to use it as an "official" testing "lobby."

As it is now, it's set at 3 players, (for a little chit-chat between some ITCC racers and me.) I will set it up for 16 players.


First, though, mics on or off?
 
MrMelancholy15
The normal season races are being held in my lounge, yes.

I need to change some settings, if you want to use it as an "official" testing "lobby."

As it is now, it's set at 3 players, (for a little chit-chat between some ITCC racers and me.) I will set it up for 16 players.

First, though, mics on or off?

On, but low id say. But real season, it should be off.
 
On, but low id say. But real season, it should be off.

Clearly. Testing isn't real season, or preseason rounds. For all of our official meets, mics are off for better connection. We have to work with everyone; whether they're from South Africa, Denmark, Argentina, or Canada. :) (But not Michigan. :crazy: )
 
Clearly. Testing isn't real season, or preseason rounds. For all of our official meets, mics are off for better connection. We have to work with everyone; whether they're from South Africa, Denmark, Argentina, or Canada. :) (But not Michigan. :crazy: )

That is right. Niz had connection problems while we were testing. He dc'd probably 4 times. Mics were on standard quality.
 
Yeah. That's why I run standard connection, with mics off for the main series. Last week, considering the number of drivers, I used low, but, I think it caused more lag than disconnects, so it's back to medium. :grumpy: Still not perfect though.
 
MrMelancholy15
Clearly. Testing isn't real season, or preseason rounds. For all of our official meets, mics are off for better connection. We have to work with everyone; whether they're from South Africa, Denmark, Argentina, or Canada. :) (But not Michigan. :crazy: )

Hahahahaha

Those Michiganians.....
 
Hahahahaha

That* Michiganian.....

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(Explanation: a certain person removed from this series for unwanted conduct is from Michigan.)


(Disclaimer: we have nothing against the state; just one single person from the state.)
 
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