W.M.A. International Touring Car Championship-Season Wrap-Up!

[NizmoDr3]

CMD ran a 59.6xx tonight ... FF are gonna rule the roost this weekend ... lol

 

[cnd01]

I ran a 59.693 today. I have found the setup lol Norm was very consistent and Nizmo showed good speed.

 

[joetruckv8]

anirishnirvana:

Two Cape Rings would be cool!

 

[anirishnirvana]

anirishnirvana:

Two Cape Rings would be cool!

well, we'll have to wait and see.

IMO You ruin the balance of the Toyota by putting all the weight on the rear. @1200kg you change the balance by putting all the weight on the rear, I don't do that. 50/50 or 49/51 is how far I ever go.

Fair enough, but I like the back end sliding out a bit to help cornering. To each their own.

More importantly, thus far:

Toyota GT-86 @ 276/1200 got me 0:59.9
Mazda RX-8 @ 276/1200 got me 1 minute
Mazda RX-7 @ 256/1150 got me 1 minute

Would someone else like to confirm if they believe that these are balanced or not?

 

[ITCC_Andrew]

Welcome cows!

Turns out, there's speculation, anxiety and conspiracy in my series! Everyone's a little unsure of the future of the series, but, I think it'll be good fun.


FH, there are 3 make-up rounds at the end of the season. It gives everyone the chance to improve on their standings in the points. So, your unnannounced, under funded team will get $6,000,000 (3 to each driver) and the opportunity to make up for missed rounds.

 

[polarbear345]

Welcome cows!

Turns out, there's speculation, anxiety and conspiracy in my series! Everyone's a little unsure of the future of the series, but, I think it'll be good fun.

FH, there are 3 make-up rounds at the end of the season. It gives everyone the chance to improve on their standings in the points. So, your unnannounced, under funded team will get $6,000,000 (3 to each driver) and the opportunity to make up for missed rounds.

How will you spend money?

 

[cnd01]

How will you spend money?

Beer lol

 

[ITCC_Andrew]

I think he meant "send" money.


Following that idea, I'm planning on sending cars.

 

[birel349]

just to reminder that jamie-racing will be replacing k1m just for this race

 

[Johnnypenso]

A lot of rules have been tossed around in the last week. Any way to get a summary and reminder of any changes or amendments to the GTP Rules before the race?

 

[cnd01]

A lot of rules have been tossed around in the last week. Anyway to get a summary and reminder of any changes or amendments to the GTP Rules before the race?

You definitely need to post the race procedure on the pre and post race discussion board.

 

[GODfreyGT5]

Can't really make tonight lads, will be in for some testing either tomorrow or during the week.

Was unfortunate not to make a race tonight, was there at the start of race 1 but had to go get my sis, then had mates wanting to meet up so had to take a miss. Will surely clear my night up for official races though.

 

[FlyinHawaiian77]

Was just about ready to battle it out with you guys. Then something came up at work I had to fix. Had to drive an hour one way to fix something that took 15 min to fix. 👎

 

[ITCC_Andrew]

👎 For those of you who gave me a reason why you were missing today, or just sent me a PM "I can't make it" thank you!

Godfrey, you did your best man. You were in the room. I won't hold it against you.

Norm & FH, it's fine.


Race 2 was sloppy at the start. Then I made up 5 or 6 positions in one lap. I don't even know what to say.

However, I'll be announcing new qualifying/race start procedures. You all got through Turn 1 okay two wide, but, there were some rows of cars that were only one-wide.


NEW QUALIFYING/RACE START PROCEDURES: You may only enter track once. (Unless something catastrophic happens, then return to pit before the end of the out-lap.) This ensures that your fastest times will still be displayed, at the end of qualifying. In order to switch to mediums, you must switch to mediums, and wait off-course until the grid is announced, and then you may return to the track (Enter course.) Failure to do so, will cost you your grid position, as your soft laps will no longer be displayed.


Also, at the race start, of both Races 1 & 2, I want a pair of drivers (first and second, third and fourth etc.) to head towards the Stop Box area every ten seconds. This will allow for an obvious grid system. In Race 2 today, a certain driver got very confused, and that botched the entire race start. SO, make sure that you're in a two wide grid position, make sure that you leave enough room for the driver beside you, and make sure that you cross the start/finish line at 100 km/h or 60 mp/h. An allowance of 5 km/h is allowed, meaning that you may go 60-64 mp/h across the line, without penalty. However, as some people did today, crossing the start/finish line at 115 km/h is not okay.

 

[cnd01]

👎 For those of you who gave me a reason why you were missing today, or just sent me a PM "I can't make it" thank you!

Godfrey, you did your best man. You were in the room. I won't hold it against you.

Norm & FH, it's fine.


Race 2 was sloppy at the start. Then I made up 5 or 6 positions in one lap. I don't even know what to say.

However, I'll be announcing new qualifying/race start procedures. You all got through Turn 1 okay two wide, but, there were some rows of cars that were only one-wide.


NEW QUALIFYING/RACE START PROCEDURES: You may only enter track once. (Unless something catastrophic happens, then return to pit before the end of the out-lap.) This ensures that your fastest times will still be displayed, at the end of qualifying. In order to switch to mediums, you must switch to mediums, and wait off-course until the grid is announced, and then you may return to the track (Enter course.) Failure to do so, will cost you your grid position, as your soft laps will no longer be displayed.


Also, at the race start, of both Races 1 & 2, I want a pair of drivers (first and second, third and fourth etc.) to head towards the Stop Box area every ten seconds. This will allow for an obvious grid system. In Race 2 today, a certain driver got very confused, and that botched the entire race start. SO, make sure that you're in a two wide grid position, make sure that you leave enough room for the driver beside you, and make sure that you cross the start/finish line at 100 km/h or 60 mp/h. An allowance of 5 km/h is allowed, meaning that you may go 60-64 mp/h across the line, without penalty. However, as some people did today, crossing the start/finish line at 115 km/h is not okay.

Race 2 start was messed up. The race 1 start was good from my point of view. Turn 1 at the start of any race is insane, so I am turning a blind eye for the most part to turn 1 on the first race lap. If I see anything blatantly over-aggressive or stupid, I will request a penalty.

 

[birel349]

is it high speed ring next, cos ive been testing there,

me: 1:12:586 in a civic
Jamieracing: 1:12:578 in a focus

in the race with slipstream
me: 1:12:023
Jamie: 1:12:239

 

[Johnnypenso]

My vote would be for Monza or Road Course Indy as a high speed track, or maybe even LeMans with the chicanes. HSR is probably the most boring track in the game and the fastest car is almost impossible to beat regardless of your tune or pit strategy. At least at Monza and Indy there are high and low speed corners to negotiate, requiring some tuning and driving skill.

 

[cnd01]

My vote would be for Monza or Road Course Indy as a high speed track, or maybe even LeMans with the chicanes. HSR is probably the most boring track in the game and the fastest car is almost impossible to beat regardless of your tune or pit strategy. At least at Monza and Indy there are high and low speed corners to negotiate, requiring some tuning and driving skill.

I would like to run HSR, but I think Clubman Stage 5 is a valid high speed test. I need to get started on the HSR setup though. I can get on this afternoon. Happy Father's Day to any dads on this thread.

 

[Johnnypenso]

Clubman Stage 5 is no faster than GVE on the straight. Road Course Indy and Monza without the chicanes is quite a bit faster especially with the draft, and of course LeMans is quite fast in several sections.

 

[cnd01]

Clubman Stage 5 is no faster than GVE on the straight. Road Course Indy and Monza without the chicanes is quite a bit faster especially with the draft, and of course LeMans is quite fast in several sections.

You are right, but who would have the time to run 15 laps at Le Mans twice and then run 5 or 6. HSR, Clubman 5 or Indy Oval to keep the tracks short and the lap times down.

 

[joetruckv8]

I probably wont make the pre-season events, but I will be there for Round 1 for sure'👍

 

[freshseth83]

I was in the process of moving, so that's why I didn't show up. Internet wasn't working until today.

 

[Johnnypenso]

You are right, but who would have the time to run 15 laps at Le Mans twice and then run 5 or 6. HSR, Clubman 5 or Indy Oval to keep the tracks short and the lap times down.

Road Course Indy should be around 1:40 or so. Tsukuba was about 15 minutes or so in length, make the Indy Race 9 laps and the race length is roughly the same. Plus its a big wide track and makes for good racing.

 

[ITCC_Andrew]

The race lengths aren't based upon laps. The race lengths are based upon tire wear/time in race. I'd like to go to either Sarthe 2005 (it's harder to cut corners, makes the jobs of the stewards much easier), Monza (with first chicane or MotoGP chicane) or Road Course Indy, but, High Speed Ring was a fun little test.



Certainly, of the drivers who have already been around the High Speed Ring (including S2000s, Civics, Focuses and RX-8s,) there weren't too many "advantages" in speed, surprisingly.


Anyways, just a friendly reminder, to read the new starting/qualifying procedures, as, at Round One, (round 1) we will be giving penalties, and at Preseason Round 5 (Round 0.5) we will be giving out warnings.


The penalty for leaving and re-entering the track during qualifying will cost you your lap times. The penalty for skipping the starts will be assessed by the Team of Stewards, but, will likely be based on the number of positions overtaken before the apex of turn 1, or as a result of the false start.


Anyways, I fully agree with cnd, for his comments. Race 1 was a decent start, and race 2 was bad. If we use the start of race 1 as an example, the race starts will be somewhat clean and ordered.

 

[cnd01]

The race lengths aren't based upon laps. The race lengths are based upon tire wear/time in race. I'd like to go to either Sarthe 2005 (it's harder to cut corners, makes the jobs of the stewards much easier), Monza (with first chicane or MotoGP chicane) or Road Course Indy, but, High Speed Ring was a fun little test.



Certainly, of the drivers who have already been around the High Speed Ring (including S2000s, Civics, Focuses and RX-8s,) there weren't too many "advantages" in speed, surprisingly.


Anyways, just a friendly reminder, to read the new starting/qualifying procedures, as, at Round One, (round 1) we will be giving penalties, and at Preseason Round 5 (Round 0.5) we will be giving out warnings.


The penalty for leaving and re-entering the track during qualifying will cost you your lap times. The penalty for skipping the starts will be assessed by the Team of Stewards, but, will likely be based on the number of positions overtaken before the apex of turn 1, or as a result of the false start.


Anyways, I fully agree with cnd, for his comments. Race 1 was a decent start, and race 2 was bad. If we use the start of race 1 as an example, the race starts will be somewhat clean and ordered.

The focus is actually decent at HSR. I ran a 1.10.685 today with Jamie. MAFIA Motorsports is trying to make something out of nothing. Let me know what the official track is for the last preseason round.

 

[ITCC_Andrew]

Well, this week, I'd like input from everyone. I want to know what goes on in your heads, when you're thinking about which tracks you'd like to go to, and which ones you wouldn't like to go to. But, I think there's something about the Porsche Curves/Ford Chicanes that would just be fun in these ITCC cars. Well, maybe. I, personally (and surprisingly, considering that I won at Indy in the Rolex series) find Indy Road Course a bit tame. And, Monza would be sheer chaos on the first lap. That much drafting, with that many cars...


So, we're left with a choice; do we go to the wide, not-very-difficult track? Do we go to the track with the long straightaways? Do we go the chaos of a small circuit designed with high-speed straights, and low speed corners, and chicanes that are quite quick, but, only on one racing line?


Or, (barring Daytona) do you have a different suggestion?

 

[polarbear345]

Well, this week, I'd like input from everyone. I want to know what goes on in your heads, when you're thinking about which tracks you'd like to go to, and which ones you wouldn't like to go to. But, I think there's something about the Porsche Curves/Ford Chicanes that would just be fun in these ITCC cars. Well, maybe. I, personally (and surprisingly, considering that I won at Indy in the Rolex series) find Indy Road Course a bit tame. And, Monza would be sheer chaos on the first lap. That much drafting, with that many cars...

So, we're left with a choice; do we go to the wide, not-very-difficult track? Do we go to the track with the long straightaways? Do we go the chaos of a small circuit designed with high-speed straights, and low speed corners, and chicanes that are quite quick, but, only on one racing line?

Or, (barring Daytona) do you have a different suggestion?

A little ff NASCAR anyone?? Lol just kidding!

But I wouldn't mind the high speed ring, yes, it's a bit boring. But I do think it would be a good change of pace. We're coming from tuskuba, tight, and realitivly narrow. The high speed ring is wide and flowing. The width will give us room to give each other room, and at the same time let us get creative with passes. And it would force strategy down our throats! I think it'd be fun...


But I won't be here this weekend ;( I also don't think I'll be here next weekend ;( I hope I can bring my playstation with, but bringing it and having Internet are two different things!

 

[ITCC_Andrew]

Good luck, with the search for internet. Say hi to the ladies at the beach.


Anyways, I'm not sure about High Speed Ring. It is cool, but, I think the speeds and the banking are too high. Some FR or MR cars naturally slide in Turn 2. We had some nasty crashes, that no one intentionally caused, but, High Speed Ring is definitely made for FF cars and NASCAR/F1. The cars just need downforce to maintain their stability. The FR cars can't maintain their stability there. And, I don't want to see the leader spin, in front of 16 drivers, and then have to officiate and make the calls, when the race goes to 🤬 .

 

[polarbear345]

Good luck, with the search for internet. Say hi to the ladies at the beach.

Anyways, I'm not sure about High Speed Ring. It is cool, but, I think the speeds and the banking are too high. Some FR or MR cars naturally slide in Turn 2. We had some nasty crashes, that no one intentionally caused, but, High Speed Ring is definitely made for FF cars and NASCAR/F1. The cars just need downforce to maintain their stability. The FR cars can't maintain their stability there. And, I don't want to see the leader spin, in front of 16 drivers, and then have to officiate and make the calls, when the race goes to 🤬 .

Well first, the beach is in August, this is to see relatives and scoot to the lake house (not fun at all)

And did I miss a fun test? These examples seem to be from experience...

 

[ITCC_Andrew]

Summary; there were four or five of us. FH's S2000 spun a lot. S2000 has handling quirks at VERY high speeds. (We were reaching 300 km/h without downforce.)


So, not to be a granny state, but, I think we should keep speeds below 300 through corners.



ALSO:

In order to simply claim your $3,000,000, please put B-spec drivers online, on the share function!


That means, if your name is in the following list, you should put at least 1 B-spec driver on the share function.


List:

Polarbear345
Freshseth83
diddy49
Racingzack
NizmoDR3
Sakery
cnd01
the_Boyce
Jamie-Racing


Anyone who doesn't have B-spec drivers up before Round 1, will be messaged with this info.


Assuming that each race is worth about $100,000 for winning, I guess I'll need about 60 B-spec races, to ensure that everyone gets a decently close amount of money, towards the $3,000,000 that I promised.

Some of you might get more. If so, consider yourselves lucky.

FlyinHawaiian77 will be eligible, with his teammate, once he announces his teams.

Finally, Team of Stewards would like to discuss an entry from NizmoDR3. He would be our fourth Team of Stewards member. He has expressed interest.