Blkout
Of course its underrated, anything to back up your argument, right? There are rumors that the new Z06 is underrated also. Shall we continue to talk about rumors and theory all day long or do you own a GT40 we can strap on a dyno and see for ourselves?
The performance times back it up. Even in the ones I didn't post myself.
Blkout
Funny, when you look up the GT40's performance stats, you'll find them varying quite a bit, I'm sure you quoted the average though and not the highest you could find just to try to prove your point, right? The Z06 hasn't been officially tested yet, but with a power/weight ratio of the GT40, there is NO reason why it won't perform very close to it.
Same power to weight based on stated numbers, but the performance shows it's making more, hence your math will be off until you use th eproper actual numbers. BTW, if the data for the ZO6 hasn't even been tested yet, everything you're saying is just a guess.
Blkout
Sounds like you're seriously jealous of Corvette owners, it speaks loudly through your posts. I'm sorry you are driving a Mustang, the Corvette is in a WHOLE other league above the Mustang, always has been. You speak like someone who feels inferior and is trying their best to discredit the Corvette to put your lowly Mustang on the same playing field. Want to talk about resale value of a Mustang compared to a Corvette? I didn't think so.
If you think that, then you're deaf and blind. I've stated on two seperate occasions where I like the Vette. Anyone who bought a Cobra could have bought a Vette if they had wanted. As you have stated multiple times, the used Z)6 goes for 26k now? With the Cobra being 34k new, I'd say it was a CHOICE people made, not a fact of finances forcing 2nd best.
Blkout
I see, so now that's you've lost the argument about the Z06 having competition under $100,000 from a STOCK, STREET car
No, you're only comparing stock cars because once you mod, the vette is left in the dust. You may say, "Well where will it end then? It's whoever has the most money once you start talking mods." And you'd be right to say that. But, let's give both cars $3000 to mod with. I doubt you could even do all the bolton's for a Vette with that much, and even if you managed it through buying used, you'd still only be making 385rwhp. You wouldn't be on top on the street with that.[/quote]
Blkout
Mustang owners like yourself love to compare 1/4 times because that's ALL that a Mustang will do, put you on a road course and you won't even see the tail lights of a Z06 because you'll be so far behind.
This only proves to me that you have no clue what you're talking about. Have you ever even been on a road course? My car club rented out an open track last year where the supercharged ZO6 and the 383 ZO6 ran as well. I'd never been on a road course in my life, the vette guys had been to several other events. I was in their mirrors the whole time. I didn't pass them, and they would pull a faster lap, but I could certainly still "see their tail lights". The lap differences were probably a second or so. Keep in mind, these were both highly modded cars, so I'd say things went rather well.
Again, all you can claim is "but but but...on a road course!!" Do you live on a road course? Do you drive to work every day on a road course? What good is that? Here's the way I see it: Nowhere have I ever claimed the Vette and the Cobra are in the same class. One is a 3100lb 2 seater sports car, the other is a 3700lb 4 seat muscle car. They certainly ARN'T in the same class. That's what makes it so funny to put your more expensive car in the mirror.
Blkout
Want to talk about how much money you'll have to invest in your Mustang to get it to run anywhere near a Z06 on a road course? I think you'll find yourself way above what a Z06 costs. What's that Cobra weigh again, 3,700lbs? What a pig. Or if you'd like to talk about used cars, a 2001 Z06 can be had now for about $27K, drop a 150 shot of gas on it or supercharger and it will blow the doors off your Cobra for $5-8K less than what you have in yours. So again, what was so special about your little pony?
Honestly, I don't think the Mustang chasis can be made to perform as well on a road course as the Vette once you start talking mods. It just wasn't built around that goal. The Cobra does "ok" in the handling department. As I said, I ran even with a modded ZO6 at the autocross, beat him at the drag strip, and lost at the road course.
As for costs of mods, you're going to have a hard time winning that one. You're not going to take a 27k Z06 and put a supercharger on it and have "5-8k less" than what I have in mine. It's expensive to mod a vette. You should know that, even with the miniscule things you've done to yours.
Blkout
Sorry if you feel I'm pompus, I only get that way some moron starts touting a Mustang as being in the same class as a Z06, which by the way, it isn't.
Overall, if you win at the road course, lose at the drag strip, and lose on the street, then you've got a car that isn't going to be able to keep up on average. As I stated before, if you can only stay ahead at the road course, then I guess that's the where you'll have to stay. How often is that?
I care about how cars perform on the street because that's where they spend all their time, and because when you start talking track cars, then the shy's the limit on what can be done to them. I can take you at a light, and you're not going to be losing me in the curves on the street. I'd say that's damn nice for less money and a car that was never trying to be a sportscr to begin with. Again, I never said it was in the same class, that's the whole reason why it's impressive that it performas as well as it does.
You've once again made this into a Vette vs Cobra issue (which I'll admit I've been drawn into), but my main issue is with your closed-minded attitude about how great you think your car is. There's not a car out there that can't be beat by something else. I can recognize the the impressive abilities of all sorts of vehicles (as has been evidenced in several of my posts in this thread alone), yet you make it quite clear that in your mind, the Vette is some unstoppable force that the world should bow down to. I simply disagree, based on my experiences.
