What do they do when they delay the game?

[re1987]

Do they just get rid of bugs? Or, is it in the translation. Maybe it is totaly new cars that just came out?

 

[eddieturner2002]

Everything you can think of why they would want to keep on developing and completing the game.

Or just sit on the millions of copies waiting to be sold just to annoy us.

 

[re1987]

With so many delays, it will probley be the most polished game on the market when it becomes available.

 

[TheCracker]

They sit on their arses.

....and think of new ways of building up our hopes only do disapoint us after making us wait for years for their next instalment!

 

[flyingdane]

Most of the time they try to fix some bug or glitch that has come up,
but spend half the time picking there nose and scraching there head

 

[Nemo2]

I was thinking about making a new thread but Ill just add it here:

How many times was GT4 delayed?

 

[Flerbizky]

They're playing GT4 fer sure

 

[kensei]

There is alot of work with localization, more than just "translation". They also may be cleaning a few things up and fixing any major bugs. However they aren't adding any major features, new cars or changing the game much from the initial release. Three months isn't enough time for that.

We the consumers probably wouldn't notice anything different between the initial Japanese release and the US/Euro/AU release, other than the language(s) of course.

 

[ewitspaul]

that is not true because they confirmed that Korean version will have more Korean cars which is set to come out on 2/22

 

[kensei]

that is not true because they confirmed that Korean version will have more Korean cars which is set to come out on 2/22

Things like that (adding cars for specific countries, etc) have probably been in the pipe for over a year now. 2-3 months isn't enough time to make any major changes that haven't alreayd been started long before.

 

[VT]

Hmm .. so maybe the US version will have the new Vette?

 

[Jedi2016]

I was thinking about making a new thread but Ill just add it here:

How many times was GT4 delayed?

That one's easy.. the answer is controversial, but it's the truth:

Once.

Yep, just once. Contrary to popular belief, Sony never announced a release date until TGS 2004. The very first confirmed release date was Dec 3rd in Japan. That's it. And, of course, it was bumped to the 28th.. a date they held to.

Now, this is where a bunch of people jump in and say that it was supposed to be out November 2003, to which I respond with a simple "Prove it." The fact is that all release dates prior to TGS were just a guess... just like all the retailers coming up with random release dates for the American/European release. News sites like Gamespot or IGN, looking at previous development cycles, and trying to figure out when the game might be done, combined with useless little tidbits from the janitor at PD saying "I think it's about halfway done". But Sony never said 2003. They said nothing until TGS last year.

Also contrary to popular belief, the Dec 14th date for the U.S. was also not confirmed. True, it did come from Sony, but they never actually confirmed it.. it was just a "We hope..." date, never concrete.

As for the reasons for delays. Quite simple, really... The game wasn't finished. As the release date neared, they realized they were going to need another week or two to finish the coding and final tweaks to the different features. Happens all the time. And yes, it really does happen all the time.. It's just that you only ever hear about it on highly anticipated titles. If no one cares about a game, the date can shift around a dozen times and no one will notice. But with something like GT4, it becomes a big deal.

And I, for one, am glad of it. While it's true that other anticipated titles make their release dates, their publishers (Electronic Arts, just to pull one out of my hat "randomly") refuse to allow the date to slip, so they push the developers to get it finished in time. And what you end up with is an unpolished game.. with many little things that don't work quite right, things that could have been better with just a little more time, and even major bugs that slip through the cracks of rushed quality control. Luckily, Sony knows their flagship title, and knows it has to be the best it can possibly be. So, they allow the date to slip when it's necessary.

 

[Wykid One]

All we can do is wait.

 

[flyingdane]

Hmm .. so maybe the US version will have the new Vette?

We can allways hope now can't we 👍

 

[askia47]

That one's easy.. the answer is controversial, but it's the truth:

Once.

Yep, just once. Contrary to popular belief, Sony never announced a release date until TGS 2004. The very first confirmed release date was Dec 3rd in Japan. That's it. And, of course, it was bumped to the 28th.. a date they held to.

Now, this is where a bunch of people jump in and say that it was supposed to be out November 2003, to which I respond with a simple "Prove it." The fact is that all release dates prior to TGS were just a guess... just like all the retailers coming up with random release dates for the American/European release. News sites like Gamespot or IGN, looking at previous development cycles, and trying to figure out when the game might be done, combined with useless little tidbits from the janitor at PD saying "I think it's about halfway done". But Sony never said 2003. They said nothing until TGS last year.

Also contrary to popular belief, the Dec 14th date for the U.S. was also not confirmed. True, it did come from Sony, but they never actually confirmed it.. it was just a "We hope..." date, never concrete.

As for the reasons for delays. Quite simple, really... The game wasn't finished. As the release date neared, they realized they were going to need another week or two to finish the coding and final tweaks to the different features. Happens all the time. And yes, it really does happen all the time.. It's just that you only ever hear about it on highly anticipated titles. If no one cares about a game, the date can shift around a dozen times and no one will notice. But with something like GT4, it becomes a big deal.

And I, for one, am glad of it. While it's true that other anticipated titles make their release dates, their publishers (Electronic Arts, just to pull one out of my hat "randomly") refuse to allow the date to slip, so they push the developers to get it finished in time. And what you end up with is an unpolished game.. with many little things that don't work quite right, things that could have been better with just a little more time, and even major bugs that slip through the cracks of rushed quality control. Luckily, Sony knows their flagship title, and knows it has to be the best it can possibly be. So, they allow the date to slip when it's necessary.

Actually Jedi, November 2004 was said to be the month GT4 would come out. This was seen At E3 2004 after PD's press confrence. There was no date, and they changed it at TGS.

Also PD said in 2002 that GT4 was aiming for a Late 2003 release in Japan, but that slipped of course.

 

[Jedi2016]

"Aiming for" and "Said to be" are not confirmed dates. That's my point. The game has been officially delayed once, for a period of only twenty-five days.

 

[askia47]

but does a game have to have a official date in order to be delayed? I mean that the slipping of the 2003 date was considered a delay.

 

[Cosmic]

GT4's delay begun at 11st december 2003

 

[askia47]

it may not have had an official date but is considered a delay

 

[Rotary Powered]

"Aiming for" and "Said to be" are not confirmed dates. That's my point. The game has been officially delayed once, for a period of only twenty-five days.

So I guess the polished game would come with memory-card battles?

<- who can't get over the fact that PD took that feature out!

 

[Mercedes SLR]

Its been delayed 3/4 times. Probably just adjusted minor things as in such a huge game, its bound to have a lot of glitches.

 

[Jedi2016]

So I guess the polished game would come with memory-card battles?

"Polished" as in "how the game runs", not what features it has. Things like frame-rate, texture detail, polygon count, all perfectly optimized.

And how can there be a delay if there was never a release date?

 

[440 CHARGER]

This is how they get us back for Hiroshima!

 

[PhatFat]

<- who can't get over the fact that PD took that feature out!

I cant

 

[MrktMkr1986]

This is how they get us back for Hiroshima!

Maybe...

But I think the real reason for the "delay" is to hype the game and to fix some minor issues. If the US version was to be released on Dec. 14th, what makes you think 90% of the translations are not ALREADY complete?

Just my $0.02...

 

[kensei]

So I guess the polished game would come with memory-card battles?

<- who can't get over the fact that PD took that feature out!

I could care less.

let me explain (I tried to post this in the letter to PD thread as it was locked). Through most of the development cycle for GT4 PD had been working with and planning for a "online" mode. That online mode was dropped very late in the development cycle due to reasons already discussed here. That means alot of these multi player features, like the 2p mem card/sim garage battle, were probably all part of the online component. The tradition structure of GT games was changed for that. Thus when online mode was removed it left those things out of the game. It would have taken PD far to much time, pushing the game even more, to go back and rebuild things like that into almost finished parts of the game. Not to mention how PD still plans on an online mode for GT4 down the road.

 

[SimRaceDriver]

Sorry to go OT here for a second but this is directed to MrktMkr1986

Nice signature! 👍

 

[T5-R]

If you used the same reasoning as Jedi2016, Half-Life 2 was only delayed once Theres a reason they give out dates & thats because it is an expected release date. Now if they miss that date, I'd call that a delay of the games release...

Oh & people have mentioned a number of frame rate problems in GT4 so it isn't that polished. Missing features such as memory card battles is a real let down which no one expected (as it was so fundamental). A significant part of GT is upgrading cars & then you can't use them in multiplayer anymore in GT4 👎 Thats not even mentioning 'GT4s main selling point' a.k.a. online mode which was promised since day one oh & race mods which haven't even appeared.

 

[askia47]

Sometimes games can be delayed without having a specific date. Forza is an example of this, the game was to come out some time in febuary yet it was then pushed back to april. Thats considered a delay.

GT4 is falling apart if all these negative reports are true....

 

[askia47]

I could care less.

let me explain (I tried to post this in the letter to PD thread as it was locked). Through most of the development cycle for GT4 PD had been working with and planning for a "online" mode. That online mode was dropped very late in the development cycle due to reasons already discussed here. That means alot of these multi player features, like the 2p mem card/sim garage battle, were probably all part of the online component. The tradition structure of GT games was changed for that. Thus when online mode was removed it left those things out of the game. It would have taken PD far to much time, pushing the game even more, to go back and rebuild things like that into almost finished parts of the game. Not to mention how PD still plans on an online mode for GT4 down the road.

So 2 player memory card battle was excluded when online was taken out? possible, but very smart, its too fundamental to leave out. its been in GT1-GT3, theres no excuse.