What driving aids do you use ?

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Morgoth_666
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First: Who said ABS makes you slower? I went back through this thread and can't find anybody making that claim. People claim that ASM and TC make slow you down, which they do(in order to help make you consistently faster).

Second: Many, if not most, forms of motorsport, actually don't allow TC, or only allow it on certain cars or for certain drivers, or otherwise closely regulate it. It's been outlawed in F1 for some time now, although they find various other fancy ways to try to get some of it's effect without actually using "Traction Control."

Third: What are you on about? This isn't the "why do you guys get such an ego trip for using no aids" thread. OP asked what aids people used. People replied by stating what aids they used. Some said why. Some drivers don't like the feeling of the aids, just like some real life drivers in series like LMS/ALMS(or so I'm told) choose not to use TC even though it's allowed. Some people say they don't like them because the game's versions aren't "realistic" to the specific systems used on real cars.

I don't speak for anyone else, but personally, I prefer the feel of the game using no aids. Doesn't bother me what anybody else uses. Again, I don't know what other's reasons are but I tend to assume most people use ABS at 1 because they like the way it feels -- makes the car not quite as quick to lock as with it on 0 but still feels fairly free and like it's directly under your control.
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First off did I direct a post at anyone?

Second, merely clarifying misinformation that I've seen posted elsewhere and heard people talking about and corrected many times.

Third....I don't think its proper to state hearsay if you are trying to state a point, more drivers in real life use TCS more then you know in many situations because if they don't the next guy may giving him the leg up. I think you have your facts wrong about ALMS and LMS, its heavily used. I don't know who told you that but you're greatly misinformed.

Fourth go back and read the rules about F1 from FIA properly, "Launch Control systems" is not traction control.


Yes the TCS is odd at times in the game but I've seen more guys spank those that didn't use it....does that make an advocacy for the use? Not really still matter of preference

Last but not least if you see this as a personal attack at you or anyone else...its not...more to inform the misinformed. If you feel it is and take it personal...sounds like a personal problem.
 
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TCS: 0
ASM: Off
ABS: 1 (0 with the cars which don't have ABS)
SRF: Off
Active Steering: Off
Controller Sensitivity: 7
Transmission Type: MT

Only ABS.
 
LordZycon
I have ABS at 1 and TC usually set at 2. Everything else turned off.
Makes me laugh though how everyone says ASM and SRF are for noobs wherein reality, nearly all new cars now days have some form of these. Guess Ferrari, Nissan GT-R and Lamborghini owners can be classed as noob drivers hey?...
Just some food for thought. :-)
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Just because you're a rich high-roller doesnt necessarily mean you're a good driver...

Nobel doesnt have assists, nor do many hardcore, small, unheard of car companies. I have a ford Focus, slightly modified, and when I take it to my local track, the only reason the fools in the Porsche's get ahead of me is because they have more power. Other than that, I eat them alive in the corners. People who who just buy cars usually cant drive them. So yes, you are. If you go to a track day and elect to keep your assists on, youre a fool.

On the contrary, Schumacher needed drivers aids with Benetton, according to Ayrton Senna. I wouldnt call winning the WDC 7 times "Noob-ish"


Back on topic, I use ABS:1 and TCS:1 ONLY IF im in an LMP car with 800+ BHP
 
I have all aids off, including no driving line, manual tranny, and ABS 0. This isn't a generalization, either. I've seen people say that they run the driving aids off except one or two of them on certain cars like the Formula GT, but I mean that I have everything off on 100% of the cars, including the FGT.
 
Online settings are all off except ABS on 1... I sometimes put traction control on 1 if I'm using a TVR speed 12 or something where I haven't adjusted the LSD settings. The Minolta and R92CP fully tuned are uncontrollable without traction control on 1 so I usually keep it on for those two cars.

Offline I use all off except for SRF, ABS, simply because it's faster and I'm lazy...
 
hawkeye122
People who who just buy cars usually cant drive them. So yes, you are. If you go to a track day and elect to keep your assists on, youre a fool.
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I agree. I have an S15 as my daily that also sees the occasional track day. More often than not I have no problems showing up the (in Australia) V8 brigade and other cars that should be faster on paper. I don't have a choice though, there is nothing to turn off.
I have a friend though who has a Focus XR5 Turbo and had the ESP sold to him as a 'go' button by the dealership but the way he drives, it's actually better for him to have it on.
As for being able to turn stuff off for track days, most cars don't let you turn everything completely off despite manufacturers telling you that you can. Allows people to think they're still heroes... :-)
 
ABS 1 and Driving line on.

Before, I used to have TCS at 1, Active Steering at Mild, and SRF on. Then I dumbed the AIDS (yes, they are a sickness for me :lol:) gradually until now.
 
I usually use TCS at 1 on the RWD cars, for the FWD/AWD, I use TCS @ 0. ABS is always at 1.. and depending on what I'm in, ASM will be on.
 
All off. My thumb and fingers are my assists.

But, when we run some Aston Martin vs Jaguar races we will use abs at 1, because those cars have it in real life.
 
Diving Line: On. ABS: 3. Everything else off.

LordZycon
Makes me laugh though how everyone says ASM and SRF are for noobs wherein reality, nearly all new cars now days have some form of these.
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There is nothing remotely like SRF in real life.
 
Offline I use nothing unless the car is super fast and needs ABS1.
Online I use aides depending on the situation, but never anything other than TCS1 (for race/LM cars) or ABS1 and that's so I don't embarrass myself by losing it under braking and taking out the car in front.
 
MetalJet
TCS = 10
SRF = ON
Active Steering = Strong
ASM = ON
ABS = 10
Steering Sensitivity = 0

Why do I start the race in 7th and everyone passes me before I get to the first corner?
Why does my car slow down so much in the corners?
Why doesn't my car want to turn?

That was what my daughter asked me and those were her settings!!!!!!!!!! :sly:

Aids slow you down, so I use the minimum required to drive a car smoothly with a sixaxis controller. Usually, just TCS = 1, ABS = 1, and Steering at 4 or 5.
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I'm impressed that your daughter's car wasn't completely stopping at the corners with TC pumped up to 10. LOL I feel like I'm in a stasis field on corners if the TC is on at all on most cars.

Morgoth_666
See, the problem is that her Controller Steering Sensitivity should be set at -2.
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I bet you're joking... But actually that's helped me!
On 4 I was terrible. Now I turn it down anywhere from -2 to +3, depending on the car/situation now, And my driving is much better. I improved my lap times significantly!
I guess I have a lead steering finger or something. ??

But once I found out about the steering sensitivity setting, the license tests didn't seem quite as anger-inducing as they did before! Suddenly I was getting golds on the first try! I could never do that with the steering sensitivity pumped up to 4 or 5. Before the only license tests I got gold on the first try were the "late breaking" tests... and that's because I late-brake by default... even when I'm not trying!

boredgunner
If you play online you'll see that most people use TCS 5, SRF on, ASM on and ABS on at least 1. How sad. :)
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I find that hard to believe since most of the online games I've been in, everyone has those restricted to OFF.

But if some people do play that way... it's probably because that's the default and they haven't realized it!!

I don't know why people think they're like training wheels, because I swear the default "aid" settings are like a nerfing! So instead of seeing someone who has them on and think oh they're a bad driver and that's why they use aids. Instead, you should think, oh, they're a bad driver because they're using the "aids"! LOL

I'm still not sure what active steering is good for.

SRF seems to only really help me on the dirt track stuff... and not really a whole lot.

And traction control is for the birds as far as I'm concerned! The only time I've used it to any possible positive effect was on some of the license test stuff where they give you a car that's crappy, tuned funny, and on comfort tires, and then ask you to fly around a corner at warp speed.

speedrcr
How in the world does ABS slow you down? ABS modulates braking force "APPLIED", it doesn't all of a sudden start slowing you down, it keeps you from locking up the wheels and provide extra traction in braking. If this is a true simulation as in other games, ABS doesn't slow you down. Its ridiculous if you think ABS slows you down, if anything it helps you in extreme braking.
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My bf said it should work how you describe. But it doesn't seem to.
And proof to me is that in a couple of the license tests... My bf said "turn abs off you'll go faster". I did it, and the car actually went faster! Maybe it was my imagination?
Otherwise I leave the ABS @ 1. I've never considered putting it higher.
 
Toronado
There is nothing remotely like SRF in real life.
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Electronic Stability Control... Ok, so a magic hand doesn't push your car back into line but sensors certainly do detect a mismatch between driver inputs and actual vehicle direction (skidding for example) and then brake individual wheels to prevent it. Think that's kind of remotely like SRF...
 
speedrcr
ok here's my question, and this comes from a great understanding of automobile engineering and how aids have greatly improved cars performance over the years (not what I read off GT, talking about rebuilt engines, rear ends, and grew up around racing in the family etc):

How in the world does ABS slow you down? ABS modulates braking force "APPLIED", it doesn't all of a sudden start slowing you down, it keeps you from locking up the wheels and provide extra traction in braking. If this is a true simulation as in other games, ABS doesn't slow you down. Its ridiculous if you think ABS slows you down, if anything it helps you in extreme braking.

Some of you might have this confused with ASM (Active Stability Management). This in real life pulses the brakes if the cars sensors sense extra wheel spin or lateral movement outside normal parameters....this will slow you down in certain circumstances I can see.

TCS, Traction Control System helps with "retarding" the torque of the engine by communicating with the engines computer or transmission and releases less torque for smoother launches. This is greatly emulated in the game. Alot of people that run 4wd cars disable this functionality I feel to give them an added "one up" on the competition taht run either RWD or RRWD cars that will usually outcorner them in the turns. I'm not saying all but I've noticed most hosts do this and run AWD or 4WD cars, not because they want to be hardcore. Also keep in mind that in just about all modern motorsport (maybe not NASCAR or certain motosport) TCS is used as a system to be more competitive, not because you're a "lamer" or other choice word. Its heavily used in all weather races (Enduro, LeMans, F1, etc etc) for safety, increased speed, efficiency, and mong all things better cornering speed.

Some of you really need to understand the engineering aspects of racing first before thinking that certain aspects will make you faster.

I personally run TCS off and on mild (3,4, or 5 depending on situation and car, namely Yellowbird with 730hp, with less then 600 hp I start lowering TCS, <500hp down to 0). Certain cars need it and certain cars (namely Skyline GTR, Evo) that most of you run without shame all the time. No honor in that, its a flipping 4wd car 2x more grip. I run an Audi RS4, RS6, R8 (road car) all the time with no TCS....so? Whats the big deal.

What I want to see is those of you who don't run TCS and no ABS and MT run Ruf's in a competitive race on the Norde. Oh btw don't wreck.

Now that gets the Chuck Norris seal of approval.

Remember kids turning down your ABS to 1 only hurts you. If I had a penny for every guy I saw had their ABS turned to 1 and locked up their brakes, I'd be a rich man. Has nothing to do with guts, has to do with using your head.
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It seems the game's implementation of ASM leaves it slightly on even when turned down to zero. Only setting ABS at zero turns ASM fully off (Nascar Challenges strategies). I'm just a humble web developer IRL so correct me if I'm wrong.....
 
Mine differs from car to car. I normally use all the AIDS off except for ABS which is 1. However, if I'm using a high-power RWD car, I'll occasionally use TCS on 1.
 
ABS 1 and nothing else. I use the dualshock. :)

I find it manageable if you set the controller sensitivity to all the way to the right(7). If my car slips, the absurd turning I get from the excessive sensitivity would help me get back control of the car. As a result, depending on my car, I'll either drift very often because of how slippery the car is, or I'll take corners as fast as possible because of the divine grip an understeering car has with my excessive controller sensitivity.

I still have ABS at 1 because my driving style involves a lot of braking while turning, and my brakes keep on locking if I do that without ABS.
 
depends what car it us for me, for the really insane rwd cars then its ABS 1 and skid rec. and TCS 1 but for 4WD then its just ABS. ive tried driven without the ABS in some of the seasonal events quite a laugh really!
 
I use traction control at 1, ABS 1 and for the moment skid recovery force.

First time I drove without skid recovery force was online, I'd been playing GT5 for months with skid recovery on and as a dumb online newbie I blundered my way straight into a room with skid recovery prohibited (didn't know any better) and my car was all of a sudden undriveable, I mean literally undriveable.

Every time I turned I spun right out, couldn't understand what was going on I just thought it was these 'different online physics' everyone keeps banging on about. I went back into A-spec and all was well again.

I see no need to turn it off, I don't feel less of a man or anything!

Most of my online buddys use it anyway.
 
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I have Traction and abs at 1, SRF on, but I also use a DS3 and am no professional driver. If I had a wheel and ample amounts of free time, I'd learn to drive w/o aids, but for now I'm happy playing the game my way, and reasonalby competative.
 

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