Very unlikely.Not really his lastHe can still come back
Yes its possible but seeing his blog and recent behavior i highly doubt.
What is expected?
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Yes its possible but seeing his blog and recent behavior i highly doubt.
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COuld be he was drunk, or just having a bad day
His later posts ( I think it was a few hours later ) was very clear, and filled with anger ( which I thought he would have settled down and should have had a cool head, but apparently not ), leading to 2 threads deleted, the last one went out of control. It's miracle he still a member. I admire the staff being so patient thus far.
Yeah thank god. Unlike some other member who has also contributed for several years just vanishes like a Hiroshima victim.
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It's so easy to ride a virtual high horse and pass judgment on an individual member when you look at some mistakes he's made in isolation and ignore his overall GIGANTIC contribution to the tuning community isn't it? People are human beings, not robots, sometimes emotions get the better of them. Happens in real life too.Agreed. They need to get their act together or get out. These Forums don't all revolve around GT6 tunes.
The stuff that was quoted, then deleted (and rightly so) was not GTPlanet. And hopefully never will be. There is no lack of Forums out there where that is the everyday language of most posts.
What makes GTPlanet apart from that is we try our best to maintain a certain amount of respect for each other - even knowing fully well that the remoteness of surfing the web provides anonymity and some form of physical barrier between us that can open us to such abuse.
When those standards, and the principles of respect that backs them, are callously and haphazardly abused - whether culturally disguised or because of some delusion of grandeur - then a war eventually breaks out.
Even more painful when new members who aren't particularly familiar with the history weigh in on the matter, further exacerbating the situation for everyone concerned.
Remembered this thread long ago that I got told by a friend ( I was a new member back then )
https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/threads/400pp-perfection-long-boring-thread.251747/page-2
The history between the two has been for years, but I still surprised an even worse post back then still there
I should report this, right ? I just did.
I'm curious, did you also report this:
Things look a little different in context don't they?
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Why should his contribution have any effect?
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The fact that he was a prominent member of the community means that he should have had more awareness of the rules and how to deal with moderators.
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Not to the staff no - we already dealt with both of those posts in 2012. Interesting what order they're in though.
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His contribution surely has saved him, anyone else did what he did ( his last few deleted posts ) would have been banned IMO. I wouldn't post what he posted 
What I don't understand is, he has hours to think over what he's going to do after he got his garage locked, but in the end, he did worse when he came back at GTP.
I just can't imagine myself doing the same thing, to sacrifice everything I had done for years, over that single post that started the whole mess and knowing that it wasn't the first time it happened.
Maybe he thought, he posted even worse response to the same remarks back in GT5 that went unnoticed / unpunished ( AUP breaking abusive post in foreign language ) and making similar response again would be fine.
Back in my early days of me being a member here, I never thought he could do it in the first place ( I admired his garage back then, but that post changed it )
I didn't report any of them back then as I was still new here, and not really familiar with the rules ( reporting others )
If they were dealt with in 2012, why did Prainano abusive post in foreign language only has been edited after I reported it today ? It was really rude that should have resulted in infraction at the every least and should have been edited soon after.
What I don't understand is, he has hours to think over what he's going to do after he got his garage locked, but in the end, he did worse when he came back at GTP.
I just can't imagine myself doing the same thing, to sacrifice everything I had done for years, over that single post that started the whole mess and knowing that it wasn't the first time it happened.
Maybe he thought, he posted even worse response to the same remarks back in GT5 that went unnoticed / unpunished ( AUP breaking abusive post in foreign language ) and making similar response again would be fine.
Back in my early days of me being a member here, I never thought he could do it in the first place ( I admired his garage back then, but that post changed it )
I didn't report any of them back then as I was still new here, and not really familiar with the rules ( reporting others )
If they were dealt with in 2012, why did Prainano abusive post in foreign language only has been edited after I reported it today ? It was really rude that should have resulted in infraction at the every least and should have been edited soon after.
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Wow,
I got a "Like" from @Johnnypenso for
https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/threads/what-is-expected.323575/page-3#post-10445606 !
Life is full of surprises (still)!
I got a "Like" from @Johnnypenso for
https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/threads/what-is-expected.323575/page-3#post-10445606 !
Life is full of surprises (still)!
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On what should be expected of him.
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Credit where credit is due. It was a good post:tup:Wow,
I got a "Like" from @Johnnypenso for
https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/threads/what-is-expected.323575/page-3#post-10445606 !
Life is full of surprises (still)!
No, it doesn't change what's expected of him, the rules are the same for everybody.
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Sorry, I missed your edit, I didn't report Highlandor post, he didn't circumvent the censor filter, he did accuse someone else as a liar, but I as far as I remember back then what he said later in the same post ( that you omitted ) was true ( someone else convinced me back then - other tuners ) I was new back then, reporting seems like a bad thing to do, but not after I became accustomed to the forum rules.
This was old stuff, but I had to report the foreign swearing that was there until today.
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Someone convinced you of what back then?
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If you read the bold part of the quoted post, you'll know what I'm talking about ( about tuning method - Cizeta thing + tune changes ), it was not really related to being a liar ( a loose term IMO ) I thought you were active in those kind of tuner discussion back then. You addressed Highlandor as well. Praiano could have easily just give evidence of his lap time and save all the trouble. It was not hard to provide replay file.
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Many people view GTP as a community and Praiano has built a high standing in the community. Take a look at the Seasonal Forum and the Tuning Forum to see how many rely on his tunes to get more pleasure from the playing the game.
The reason this has rolled on is in some way testament to how he is regarded.
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Old site software. On the new one it would have been deleted at the same time it was addressed.
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Popularity does not give one amnesty.
Incorrect. The rules are the same for everyone. It might appear differently for you from the outside looking in but what you don't see is past history or their reaction(s) to the warning. There are times when we've given a zero point warning for grammar then follow that with an additional warning because of an abuse laden "it's only a video game forum, you 🤬 stupid Nazi" private message.
True story, by the way.
So, at face value, it could be perceived that they were warned, or possibly banned, due to grammar but the reality is quite different.
GTPlanet is made up of the sum of its parts - the members. The staff has no desire to see anyone banned or leaving under their own free will. We would LOVE if you guys could get along and put us out of a job, but clearly that's never going to happen.
As @Famine has said countless times now, report and walk away and/or add them to ignore. You don't have the power to do more than that anyway. That's our job. Let us do it.
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Thank you for the further explanation
I learned more now about how the rules and moderation works 
I have been using report function a lot lately, at times I worried about making a false report ( not enough to be report worthy ), hope I didn't make the staff too busy with my report ( mostly spam and AUP breaking post/thread ) 
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I´ll just write a last comment about the situation to end the story.
I´m still member just because i don´t know how to go out .
i just don´t agree anymore with mods specially Dann,playing clearly with is little power who close my second thread that i open just to let my tunes links for GTP users. They don´t have anything to see with this and i can´t prejudicate a lot of cool people who like to drive my cars.
I didn´t do this in my original garage because it was closed , impossible to edit and i don´t pretend to re-open it . I repeat , i´ll move from GTP, no way back, so no reason to ask to open it again.
Sorry for the bad words or impulsive reactions but i´m a 100% latin guy and sometime it just happen like this.
Like i always say, i´m just a fake tuner of fakes cars , it´s not a big thing at all but i love what i do and i´ll continue to do this somewhere where i´ll fel better. I don´t want any privileges. I just don´t like abuse of power. I repeat , i wasn´t the bad guy in the story. I just ask an old troll to stay away from my garage and ****** is not a bad word.
Anyway. My english is too bad to express totaly what i feel but it´s more or less like this.
End of the story, no need of long speech anymore, it was a pleasure.
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I´m still member just because i don´t know how to go out .
i just don´t agree anymore with mods specially Dann,playing clearly with is little power who close my second thread that i open just to let my tunes links for GTP users. They don´t have anything to see with this and i can´t prejudicate a lot of cool people who like to drive my cars.
I didn´t do this in my original garage because it was closed , impossible to edit and i don´t pretend to re-open it . I repeat , i´ll move from GTP, no way back, so no reason to ask to open it again.
Sorry for the bad words or impulsive reactions but i´m a 100% latin guy and sometime it just happen like this.
Like i always say, i´m just a fake tuner of fakes cars , it´s not a big thing at all but i love what i do and i´ll continue to do this somewhere where i´ll fel better. I don´t want any privileges. I just don´t like abuse of power. I repeat , i wasn´t the bad guy in the story. I just ask an old troll to stay away from my garage and ****** is not a bad word.
Anyway. My english is too bad to express totaly what i feel but it´s more or less like this.
End of the story, no need of long speech anymore, it was a pleasure.
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Really, so you're going to let the troll win? He got the better of you, it happens. You over-reacted, that happens as well. All it would take is for you to accept what has happened, apologize to the mods, and ask for the thread to be opened, if all you want is for people to still have access to you're tunes. That second thread was closed because you already have one waiting for you, no need for another. The site owner himself even went so far to get involved, and specifically stated that they are just waiting for you to send them a message.
Don't be so quick to blame the Staff, as its obvious they are doing what they asked to do when they took up the offer to become part of the Moderating Team. If you cant see past that, then thats a shame because it seems like you have a following that you will be letting down if you follow this route.
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