What members are not getting F5 on day 1?

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Im not gonna wait. You guys keep complaining about so much stuff.

Luminis
On the Porsche pack: I agree that it might as well be a scheme to make some easy Dollars off of the player base. However, I'd also say that it was one of the best DLC packs for FM4, in terms of value. Not exactly what I'd imagine MS to do if all they wanted was to make some quick cash.

In the end, it won't really matter. The whole DLC scheme for Forza in and off itself is pretty expensive and that will only get worse.
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The Porsche pack was no scam. It was one off the best DLC packs ever released in console gaming history.

I remember some fans from the other game making thread after thread about NOT getting any DLC... T10 deserves more credit than it gets.

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King1982
Im not gonna wait. You guys keep complaining about so much stuff.
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*Ahem* :trouble:

Well I won't be getting the X1 at launch, will be waiting until the price goes down. However, I will indeed be holding on to FM5 so I won't be left behind. :)
 
Forza is my only reason for buying a Xbox One. So that and the fact that my current wheel won't work with it and I already have a PS3 for which I'm getting GT6 for, I have zero interest in getting Forza 5 at launch.

But, sometime next year when the Xbox One and it's wheels have dropped in price and more wheels are also launched, I might consider it.
 
If I could use my G27 with XB1 I would have considered it for sure, despite hating MS and online fees.
 
King1982
The Porsche pack was no scam. It was one off the best DLC packs ever released in console gaming history.
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Considering that pretty all of those Porsches were already in the previous Forza then I would have to disagree and say that it was an over priced DLC that really should have been free or at a very low cost. It was costly and the cars were not all that, The 550 ruled the boards in a few places, the 962 got a rocket in it but handled extremely badly and the Spider race cars where no longer a factor where as they ruled in the previous release.

The best DLC I have saw to date was in GT5 where they gave us all those new Nascars for $0 maybe not the best car pack in terms of car content but free is always good.

I also agree with the post a ways back about T0 pretty much forcing DLC on us if we want to stay competitive almost every car pack has 1 car that will rise to the top of the leaderboard even though when that same car is part of the base game it is a non factor.
 
HBR-Roadhog
Considering that pretty all of those Porsches were already in the previous Forza then I would have to disagree and say that it was an over priced DLC that really should have been free or at a very low cost. It was costly and the cars were not all that, The 550 ruled the boards in a few places, the 962 got a rocket in it but handled extremely badly and the Spider race cars where no longer a factor where as they ruled in the previous release.

The best DLC I have saw to date was in GT5 where they gave us all those new Nascars for $0 maybe not the best car pack in terms of car content but free is always good.

I also agree with the post a ways back about T0 pretty much forcing DLC on us if we want to stay competitive almost every car pack has 1 car that will rise to the top of the leaderboard even though when that same car is part of the base game it is a non factor.
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you did not need DLC to stay competitive, thats the biggest load of crap i see people say here. it sounds like you didn't like the fact it wasn't free. GT5 nascar, biggest waste of hard drive space ever.
 
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What is difficult to understand that T10 had to pay for a new license to include Porsche? What makes you so entitled to feel you should have been given the pack at or below cost?
 
HAL20XX
What is difficult to understand that T10 had to pay for a new license to include Porsche? What makes you so entitled to feel you should have been given the pack at or below cost?
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Probably because Porsche was already included with Forza 1-3. But I agree with your post. 👍
 
I loved the Porsche pack, especially since Turn 10 put the 911 GT2 RS & Cayman R in it. It was also awesome to see a game that had for the first time both Porsche & Ruf in it.
 
I absolutely love the Porsche pack. Well worth the price of admission. It's too bad they weren't able to get it to work for FM5, because the 918 Spyder would be one helluva car.
 
HAL20XX
I absolutely love the Porsche pack. Well worth the price of admission. It's too bad they weren't able to get it to work for FM5, because the 918 Spyder would be one helluva car.
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I agree about the Porsche pack, lot of good cars in it.
 
espeed623
May just end up waiting this one out for financial reasons. The last two FM's I preordered the LCE, but I just don't know this time. Got other important 🤬 to worry about (read: the real world).
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Yeah, my situation is just me spending money smart really. And I also have a-lot of things to be worrying about in the real world. I calculated I'd be spending around $1000 on an Xbox One, games, and a TV to play it on. I have the money but I may need it for other things down the road. Maybe later. 👍
 
^ Same here. An HDTV I don't otherwise want or need bumps the investment into "utterly absurd" territory for basically one game. I'll see how things look in a year or so, when Forza Horizon 2 comes around.
 
Nope. I have no complaints about 480i apart from illegible text and miniscule map icons, which, in this modern age, are often way smaller than they need to be (what's all that extra screen space for? :lol: ). I remain skeptical that I'll find any flatscreen that reacts as quickly (input lag) as a CRT, but I'll upgrade someday.
 
I play my 360 on my computer monitor since MS has component to dvi support for the 360. It looks great on my monitor but its not HDMI compatable so I'll have to buy a new HDTV or monitor.
 
HAL20XX
I absolutely love the Porsche pack. Well worth the price of admission. It's too bad they weren't able to get it to work for FM5, because the 918 Spyder would be one helluva car.
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I can't believe there are people walking around under the belief there won't be a Porsche pack for FM5. I'd be willing to bet the cars are already modeled at this time. Of course right now they'll say there won't be any Porsche. Of course that's what they said last time...............

No attack at anyone personally here...but the "I love it all I'll buy it all and everyone else should stop complaining" types are the very people who are giving game companies cover and confidence that they can continue to with the pay to play/pay even more to be competitive model that is taking over every game these days. Most of the time just holding back content that could/should have been in the game at release to accomplish it. And then most of the time, releasing the game with glitches they know are there, and maybe, if you're lucky and they can figure out a way it makes them more $$$ they might fix.

But make no mistake. There WILL be a Porsche pack for FM5 just the same as FM4. Belief of anything else is IMO naive.
 
TRC GeorgiaDawg
I can't believe there are people walking around under the belief there won't be a Porsche pack for FM5. I'd be willing to bet the cars are already modeled at this time. Of course right now they'll say there won't be any Porsche. Of course that's what they said last time...............

No attack at anyone personally here...but the "I love it all I'll buy it all and everyone else should stop complaining" types are the very people who are giving game companies cover and confidence that they can continue to with the pay to play/pay even more to be competitive model that is taking over every game these days. Most of the time just holding back content that could/should have been in the game at release to accomplish it. And then most of the time, releasing the game with glitches they know are there, and maybe, if you're lucky and they can figure out a way it makes them more $$$ they might fix.

But make no mistake. There WILL be a Porsche pack for FM5 just the same as FM4. Belief of anything else is IMO naive.
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I love this.

It's as if people forget Porsche was included in every single Forza up-till FM4.

I personally do believe T10 were forced into the DLC position, and they used it to test the waters, but not perhaps in the way you suggest.

I think it went down like this:

2003. Forza is pitched to MS as the only game in the sim-genre on xbox as their own exclusive version of the established and well selling Gran Turismo series with no competition from EA, or anyone else being exclusive to their platform.

T10 sweeten the pitch by suggesting MS foot the bill to secure Porsche so they have both Porsche and Ferrari in one game. MS go for this, seems like a no-brainer from every angle.

2004. EA let MS have Porsche for a extortionate price covering all of their costs and then some. But EA want Ferrari but not at that price, still they got paid for doing literally nothing.

2005. FM1 hits the shelves, success. Xbox gamers love it, game gets good reviews. MS is happy, EA is happy, everyone is happy.

2007. EA decide to put out a game (Pro Street) in the same sub genre as T10. T10 is now semi competition but, money still talks, and Ferrari is still too expensive. As the fees increase MS still willing to foot the ever increasing bill as popularity of forza is rising with FM2.

2008. EA has been planning. Shift is in development, a true competitor for forza, a selling point Porsche license. Raises an opportunity to scare MS and a reason to up the fees higher, now trying to use Ferrari as a bargaining tool.

2009. FM3 releases, Last contract still in place for porsche but is up for renewal soon. Shift releases but still no deal for Ferrari across all platforms, especially xbox (the biggest selling platform for their game)

2010/11. Shift 2 is near, so is FM4. MS won't move on their stance to have Forza being the only game on their platform with both Porsche & Ferrari. EA says fine 'price is raised even further for Porsche', MS says 'this is way too much, no deal'. Porsche is cut from Forza last minute, models fully built. MS is not happy,

2011 March. Sales projections for Shift2 are looking OK, EA reasonably happy.

2011 Sept. MS returns to the table with EA, No Ferrari, but we'll sell a FM4 DLC, you can take a cut from the profits. With sales for Shift2 tailing off earlier than expected, EA set price so essentially they make all the money, MS agrees but is using the sales to gauge whether Porsche is even worth the outlay.

2012.
MS; 'Well the DLC didn't do as well as it should T10, what do you suggest?'
T10; 'may as well let Ferrari go, maybe they'll be generous with the porsche fees'.

Except now EA don't have anything in the same sub-genre as T10 on the xbox and are happily milking the better selling (on the xbox) arcade genre, now the scales have tipped even further into their favour. Ferrari don't want any part in anymore exclusive deals, Porsche is happy or oblivious. And MS has no bargaining chips leaving Forza screwed for Porsche content, and their accountants feel it isn't worth the cash to acquire, 'Gran Turismo doesn't need it right Dan?'
 
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If Porsche is in Forza5, it will probably be by way of a DLC pack, why give it away when you can charge for it right?
 
Absolutely not going to get it and not for a looooong time. The game does look good but like in most (shall I say all) racers always missing something. It does not seem well thought out. I am getting sick and tired of racers not doing this or that. I am all about the details and I know I can't expect everything but I see no effort being put in this game besides that it looks good graphically. GTA5 is a great example of what can be done if someone put effort into a game. It has spoiled me and showed me that others are just plain lazy or lack any passion and knowledge to strive for being the best they can be. Look at GT5, those clowns need to wake up. I see them with some passion, money, resources, but no knowledge. Something is obviously wrong with Kaz and his team. Sorry, can't help it but to bring that up.

So you have that and how about the wheel? You will probably have to buy another wheel to play this. Why can it not support current wheels? Politics and licenses I suppose. Some fanboy might scream about hardware limitations and all that, yeah, sure. The 360 already has a piss poor wheel support already. How about using new wheels with the 360? Mostly likely not. So that is 5 bills for the system and about $300+ for an Xbox1 wheel (my educated guess) and you need the game and other misc stuff. They will probably hold out on DLC too to get that money grab as usual. So that is pretty much one thousand dollars just to start out racing in Forza. The price of admission is high since what we need first is the system.

Not like you need the wheel but you know just how awesome it is having a wheel and once you go with a wheel you can't really go back =P I assume most GTP members typically have higher standards when it comes to racing than your average gamer, so that means you have to have a wheel to race.
 
FosterG
If Porsche is in Forza5, it will probably be by way of a DLC pack, why give it away when you can charge for it right?
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Why do they put cars and tracks in at all, right? The base game should just have Fujimi Kaido and one black VW Jetta. Everything else should be DLC.

Seriously, some people need to take the tinfoil hats off.
 
Imari
Why do they put cars and tracks in at all, right? The base game should just have Fujimi Kaido and one black VW Jetta. Everything else should be DLC.

Seriously, some people need to take the tinfoil hats off.
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Truth.
 
Imari
Why do they put cars and tracks in at all, right? The base game should just have Fujimi Kaido and one black VW Jetta. Everything else should be DLC.

Seriously, some people need to take the tinfoil hats off.
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Maybe you misunderstood me, I am all for putting everything that is available in the game day one, but we know that is not going to happen as many people are willing to pay for dlc even as they gripe about it.
 

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