What Phone Do You Have?

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Having worked to integrate numerous Blackberry phones into my customers' email systems (mostly Microsoft Exchange, with one Novell GroupWise and a few ISP POP systems) I have to say that I just don't get it. What is so magical about these things? Everybody has to have one, because all the people they work with have one.

But . . . . . . Why? What does it do?

With what comes in the box, you can configure it to link to your email a couple of ways. Use the Desktop Redirector to watch your Outlook for you, and it will send whatever you get. But your machine has to stay powered up and logged in (although possibly locked.) You can also use the Blackberry Internet Service and define your account settings online, through the phone or your PC's browser. That service automatically dies every 6 to 8 weeks and stops sending mail, until you sign on and re-validate your account. If it fails to log in to your mail server (maybe your server people took it down for an upgrade or something) it stops, too. But all you get is email. You don't get calendar, you don't get tasks, you don't get contacts, you don't get notes. For those you have to connect to the PC and sync using the Intellisync software built into the Desktop Manager.

If your company is large enough, they can spend several thousand dollars for the Blackberry Enterprise Server (BES), which allows wireless sync of all those other apps with Exchange, Notes, or GroupWise. Works well, but expensive. Recently, though, they introduced Blackberry Professional Software, which is a limited license-count version of BES, and much less expensive. It's actually free for a single user, but how many companies with their own mail server have a single user? It's about 50 bucks each for additional users. Point is, it's extra cost beyond what comes with the device in the box. Furthermore, BES adds a management task to your IT people's lives, as it does not integrate, it merely communicates. You have to define your mail users separately in its own database, you can't just say "These Exchange users have Blackberries, sync them." And with BES, if your phones were not provisioned for BES by your carrier when you got them, you'll have to call them and get that changed, because BES won't work with them.

So the Blackberry, "famous" for wireless email support, doesn't do anything else PIM-wise wirelessly, unless you work for a generous company.

The i-Phone is a bit better. It has Exchange sync built in, although it takes some doing to get it set up. Once done, it wirelessly syncs mail, calendar, and contacts with Exchange. You can pick and choose which apps to sync if you need to, like if you've already got a contacts list in the phone that's different from your Exchange contacts. Other mail systems aren't supported so well, though. You can POP3 to anything, but you won't get calendar or contacts that way.

A Windows phone supports Exchange right out of the box. Fill in the field for your mail server's name, then fill in your login name and password. Tell it which apps to sync (mail, calendar, tasks, notes) and there they are. Right the #&@$ now.

Folks say that the Blackberry is easier to use, the trackball interface is one-handed. Maybe so, but it's slow. I've gotten pretty good with one-handed use of my Windows touch-screen phone, using my thumbnail as a stylus, and the thumbwheel for selection within an app.

So if you're a user at a company that has its own Exchange server and you want email and calendar and contacts whenever and wherever, you cannot beat using a Windows phone. It's high performance, versatile, and familiar. Trillions of apps exist for it, too.
 
Having worked to integrate numerous Blackberry phones into my customers' email systems (mostly Microsoft Exchange, with one Novell GroupWise and a few ISP POP systems) I have to say that I just don't get it. What is so magical about these things? Everybody has to have one, because all the people they work with have one.
They are so magical because "important" business types never miss another communication. Do you know how much work can be done when in a board meeting?

Part of it also plays into the fact that the Blackberry brand grabbed very early marketshare. For companies that provided the phones/PDAs to their employees they got in with great bulk deals. So, then everyone has the same phone and then when dealing with partners, customers, etc the functionality caught everyone's eye and any employees at those companies who wanted a mobile device had the Blackberry name stuck in their head. Keep in mind this is the pre-smart phone days when Blackberry was owned by RIM and not really a cell phone at all. That marketshare and product name has not died and when they incorporated it all into a phone these same businesses switched to those. Some of them are still in long-term contracts, or their bulk contracts still make it cheaper than the competition.

Sure, an iPhone can do the same stuff, but that has only been out for a few years and between gaming apps and the media applications appears to be less business oriented and more personal use oriented. That and until recently they were just too expensive.

So if you're a user at a company that has its own Exchange server and you want email and calendar and contacts whenever and wherever, you cannot beat using a Windows phone. It's high performance, versatile, and familiar. Trillions of apps exist for it, too.
I would say that of the people I know who use a Windows (Mobile?) phone nine out of ten hate it. I ran into the same issue when looking at reviews for phones last time I was looking at them. Popular opinion appears to be against it.


Personally, I got a Samsung Eternity, which has few smart phone features, and no PDA stuff. With just an Internet package and Google's free Gmail app, I can do all the same stuff by just having my work Outlook forward all mail to a Gmail account I setup specifically for work. The app also saves different account info so I can switch between personal and work mail with two taps on the screen. Similarly, I managed to avoid a need for GPS software by getting Google's free Google Maps app, which uses cell tower signals to give a rough estimate of your location and can give directions. It isn't as accurate as a GPS, but as long as you can read a map and get a cell signal you can use it.


I agree with you, the functionality of any of these phones does not justify the price, but just as the iPhone is all about fashionable image (my phone plays music and movies too) a Blackberry is all about a serious business image. When you pull out a phone with this full keyboard splayed out you look like you brought your office with you. When you pull out an iphone no one can tell if you are doing work or just switching to another Miley Cyrus song.
 
anyone here have the LG EnV Touch? i currently don't have a cellphone and i was thinking of grabbing this, the env3, or the alias. not quite sure... but i'm leaning towards the touch.

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I use a Nokia E63 in Maroon colour :)

Another one is Motorola V3i Violet in colour... It's limited edition I guess as I think it's only me who use that phone especially here in Malaysia...
 
So having had my iPhone for over a month now, I have to agree wholeheartedly with John Gruber:

A decade ago, my first PowerBook was a secondary machine to the desktop anchored at my desk. Now, my main machine is my MacBook Pro, but it feels a bit like an anchor now. My mobile secondary computer is my iPhone.

It amazes me how much more time I spend on my iPhone than my computer now.
 
I have a Boost Mobile Motorola i465. It gets the job done and is very durable. The only downside is the poor screen resolution, which I don't really mind as long as I can call and text.
 
BlackBerry 8100 series!
Though I wish you can change some sounds on the blackberry, otherwise I am very please on having this phone.
 
i have had the HTC touch from sprint for a year and a half now. its cool but now im ready to get the HTC touch pro 2. hopefully by the time my contract end it will available on sprint
 
I have the iPhone 2G 8gb ever since it came out, lol :)
 
I have this...

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It's a Motorola.

As you can see it is state of the art, you'll notice the integrated MP3 player too..

It has some really nifty features, I can make telephone calls, and recieve telephone calls, I can also send and recieve text messages too... the best bit though, is when it rings, it sounds like a mobile phone ringing!!!!! WHAT A CONCEPT!!!!

other bonus features include: using it to stabalize the wonkey tables in the pub by wedging the display under one of the legs, and also not being epically boring talking about tariffs, minutes, texts, iBananas, flatberries and GGG, whilst in aforementioned pub, when the topic of conversation SHOULD be cars, motor racing, grid girls, the price of beer and how rubbish lager actually is, religion, films, time travel, having lots of money, not having lots of money, music, work, the fit barmaid, Gran Turismo, ideas for inventions, amusing body part waxings, I4's, I6's, V8's, V10's, V12's, pension schemes, etc. etc. etc.!

? : Being an annoying 🤬 by ignoring the people in your immideate vacinity whilst struggling to get a hi-speed signal?..... No?............ but i bet theres a 🤬 App for that.... 🤬

My job involves alot of time on the phone, and on the computer (nope, not a call centre operative!) and I seem to manage fine without a Blackberry. I'm certainly not a gadget-phobe.. but I SERIOUSLY DETEST mobile phones...

.. the thing I can't stand the most is people going on about there phone and what a good deal it was and how its got this, and its got that.. yet the same people will have bought some piece of crap 23" Technika TV from Tescos, and have a CD/USB micro system -- best buy from the Argos catalogue!!. The mobile phone seems to have become the must have item for the 21st century fashionable chav...

My Motorola :censored:amajig offers me everything I need in a phone,.. if I need to speak to someone, I can call them... cost, phone was free, and maybe £10 credit every 2 months.

"for millions of years, mankind lived just like the animals, then something happened which unleashed the power of our imagination... we learned to talk..."

... and what did we do with it? " OMG, LOLZ wkd 2n, NEwy l8s, am wiv o8-< "
 
Samsung A177.

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Only cons, no expansion slot for Micro SD cards, a lot of frequent interference so much so it interferes with my DualShock 2. Other than that it's a great practical phone.
 
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A Nokia E63. A Tesco Value E71, in other words.

Hey we have a same phone!!! Except that mine in red or maroon... I was looking for the black one but it's not available here in Malaysia... Been using it for 5 months already :) My dad uses an E71 :D

 
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Since my Treo died a while ago I've gone back to my old Nokia 3200. It sends/receives calls and texts and it has a flashlight. 👍 What more do you really need from a phone?

 
I had a Motorola V360, but it broke. I'm now using an old phone of my buddy's that i put my SIM card in. It's a samsung something or other, like 4 years old. But i don't care, it works fine.
 
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A Nokia E63. A Tesco Value E71, in other words.



Well I now want to stab it. It's 2 in the morning and I've decided I want rid of it. Let's have a little rant shall we...

Camera
It's crap. It might be 2 million pixels in resolution but every single one of them is rubbish. There's no autofocus either, so everything is either too near or far away for it to focus on.

Usability
It's crap. Just as an example, receive a text on a Sony Ericsson and it opens up right in front of you so you don't even need to unlock the keypad to work out who it's from and what it's about. Receive a text on this and you need to unlock it and then scroll halfway down the home screen before you can even open it. The menus are perplexing too - I really have no idea where anything is anymore. None of this matters of course, because it has a frequent habit of simply losing all signal and refusing to pick it up again until it's been restarted. So the chances are you'll never actually receive said text in the first place.

Functions
There's no stopwatch. There's no countdown timer. These are things you find particularly useful when you're in a student flat and own an oven with no timer. It has an alarm clock, but it's utterly useless for anything more than reminding you to feed the cat. Why? Well it'll go off once for 30 seconds, and then just give up and let you drift happily back to sleep while your history of communications lecture begins without you.

Bluetooth
And here we have the cherry on the cake. When I first got it, I connected it to my TomTom. Within 2 days, it simply refused to connect again. So, I deleted the pairing on both devices and added it again. Did it work? No. So I tried again. And again. And again. Switched both off. Tried again. And again. Then it worked. For a bit. Then it simply gave up again and refused to connect. 'Fine', I thought. 'Maybe it just doesn't like my satnav'.

Nope. I've just had an iO Play fitted to my car and now it's decided to throw a strop with that now too. Every time it connects, it takes over the entire system and broadcasts every little beep and keytone through my car speakers over A2DP (the protocol for streaming music over bluetooth), simply because it's not intelligent enough to work out that I don't want it to stream frigging music. As a result, I can't connect both it and my iPod at the same time because the E63 simply hogs the connection; or throws a strop because the iPod got there first. My K800i doesn't have this problem - I tried it earlier. In fact it worked flawlessly with it, just like it's worked flawlessly with my TomTom for the last 2 years.

The simple solution, then, was to turn A2DP off and just let it connect as a normal in-car handsfree kit. Like it should automatically in the first place. 'You can't A2DP off' say Nokia. Super.



When exactly did Nokia start making dull rubbish? I loved my 3310, 3510i, 3200 and 3220s... This makes me want to cry.
 
I currently have an LG EnV and it's fine for what I want. I don't need any special features, as long as I can talk and text with a full keyboard I'm fine. As for its condition I wouldn't say it's the best, but it's a pretty tough phone. It's been dropped and punched many many times, but all in all the only major damage is the front screen.

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For my next phone I'm thinking about an EnV touch, but as long as this one works I'm happy with it.
 
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