When will we see GT5 ??

[code_kev]

DUHHH I can't wait for GT10, mayby we MIGHT get some back fire if the PS8 is powerful enough.

They complain because the progress seems to be just in the graphics

 

[tha_con]

I still don't see why the vast majority of this website is so concerned with minute details instead of the actual physics of a driving simulator...it really confuses me.

I mean, in all seriousness, if they gave you all the little nit picky things you ask for, and took away the great physics engine...I'm sure even then you would complain...

 

[Solid Lifters]

No he doesn't because NO ONE has a development kit for it yet, NO ONE. Sony hasn't even finalized the specs, let alone released anything solid. All that has been given to developers as of now is a "projected specification" and the fact that it will use the Blu-Ray disc.

Several gaming magazines reported several game makers, which includes PD, recieved pre-dev kits on or before E3 2003. At this years E3, several more gaming companies recieved them. Though no final dev kits have been developed, or handed out yet, some game companies are hard at work making games and game engines. This is very old news.

 

[code_kev]

I mean, in all seriousness, if they gave you all the little nit picky things you ask for, and took away the great physics engine...I'm sure even then you would complain...

Most games are able to have all the nit picky things AND a great physics engine. It is possible to have both you know.

 

[Pak]

Weather changes will require a new physics engine. Period. Because wind, water, etc will effect the way the car sticks to the pavement, and how accelleration etc work w/the car, so no, they will not do this for the first release on a next gen-console, they just spent years recreating a new physics engine, I doubt we'll see rain/snow/wind, at least with a lot of realistic effecfts.

And Damage won't be in GT5. The work involved would require it to come out in Late 07/early 08, sony will not miss out on the money maker like that. Everyone will be dissappointed with GT5, expect that.
They will complain about everything that isn't right etc etc etc...even tho progress is there, since it didn't come all in one bundle they will still complain...blah.

Uhm, things like how the cars react on different types of tarmac and water/snow/dirt can be added to the physics engine, it doesn't require that much work, and also damage wouldn't be really hard to do.
You should take a look at LFS S1 and what we're gonna get in S2/S3.

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I still don't see why the vast majority of this website is so concerned with minute details instead of the actual physics of a driving simulator...it really confuses me.

I mean, in all seriousness, if they gave you all the little nit picky things you ask for, and took away the great physics engine...I'm sure even then you would complain...

Well I still have to see the GT physics engine simulate a race car properly instead of a daihatsu cuore or whatever.

 

[LoudMusic]

I'm looking forward to GT83256. I bet that one will be pretty good. Hopefully they'll include damage by then.

 

[Solid Lifters]

Blu-Ray is projected to be the new standard for disc media. Sony (one of the key elements in developing the format) hopes to convert it to the standard to replace DVD.

A DVD Disc holds appox. 4.7GB of information. Blu-Ray Format discs hold roughly 30GB.

Sony announced some time ago Blue-Ray will be the driver for the next Sony gaming console. Currently, BD (Blue-Ray Device) will hold 27GB on one single layer disc, and 54GB on one dual layered disc. However, BD version 2 will store up to 40GB on one single layer disc and 80GB on one dual layered disc. This is far more than what the PS3 will need. So, Sony is debating the idea of coming out with a compact version of the BDv2. Instead of a 12mm disc, and 8mm disc. But, this is only a rumor, but a good logical one. Sony stated in a press release that they don't want the PS3 to be a "movie player" device. Makes sense if Sony is trying to make a profit selling BD players for movies, but not if they want to make a profit selling BD movie discs.

 

[LoudMusic]

I still want to see a "media device" attachable to a television that 'does it all'. But I fear my wish will never be packaged by a major manufacturer.

 

[GTXLR]

Several gaming magazines reported several game makers, which includes PD, recieved pre-dev kits on or before E3 2003. At this years E3, several more gaming companies recieved them. Though no final dev kits have been developed, or handed out yet, some game companies are hard at work making games and game engines. This is very old news.

Thought you meant the full dev kit.
Sorry Solid.

 

[Solid Lifters]

I still want to see a "media device" attachable to a television that 'does it all'. But I fear my wish will never be packaged by a major manufacturer.

Same here. That is what the PS2 was supposed to be, but...

You know the whole reason MS got into the video game console market was what they heard from a Sony press release when they first announced the PS2. Sony said the PS2 will be the "PC of the future." MS heard that and said, "We need to enter this market." Now look. No "PC of the future" in the slightest.

 

[tha_con]

Several gaming magazines reported several game makers, which includes PD, recieved pre-dev kits on or before E3 2003. At this years E3, several more gaming companies recieved them. Though no final dev kits have been developed, or handed out yet, some game companies are hard at work making games and game engines. This is very old news.

Again, no one has a development kit, everyone has denied it, they have projected specs. Sony has never sent out a development kit.

Sony gave out minimum expected standards, and developers will begin work based off that. The same thing happened with the PS2, prior to it's unvieling, no one had anything on PS2 ALL VIDEOS WERE CREATED on HOMEMADE DevKits, basically the developers worked with what PS2 was supposed to be and created teasers of the "projected" specs of the PS2, and the same thing will be present for PS3. We'll start to see teasers.

It's just funny to hear someone say sony has released dev kits for a system that isn't even close to final yet. You do realize they JUST finished DEVELOPING the laser in May of 04? That they announced it would use Blu-Ray in Sep of 04?

ALL Screens/info on PS3 games are running on PC emulated hardware, that matches the expected specs...so whatever magazine you have read, I would quit reading, it's credibility is going down hill.

What's funny is you are saying they have dev kits...yet in the November issue of OPM, many developers clearly stated they do not know what PS3 will feature, and simply gave hopes of what it will have, I believe on was Konami, a Powerhouse developer...wonder why they didn't get a dev kit...hmmm.....because no one did.

 

[code_kev]

Sony said the PS2 will be the "PC of the future."

Sony were talking ****.

 

[Solid Lifters]

Thought you meant the full dev kit.
Sorry Solid.

It's OK. I thought everbody knew about it. It's kind of cool what Sony is doing. They're make "game engines" so smaller game companies can purchase a pre-made one instead of spending all that time and money making one. I bet PD, Konami and others are busy making some to sell to Sony. All of this possible.

 

[Izanagi]

Sony were talking ****.

depends....the PS3 might be quite the monster...however, if Microsoft come out with a new XBOX....hmmmm there will be some big competition....Nintendo will have something up their sleeve as well to counter the PS3. i just hope Sony doesn't B.S. too much and keep the facts real.

 

[LoudMusic]

Same here. That is what the PS2 was supposed to be, but...

You know the whole reason MS got into the video game console market was what they heard from a Sony press release when they first announced the PS2. Sony said the PS2 will be the "PC of the future." MS heard that and said, "We need to enter this market." Now look. No "PC of the future" in the slightest.

So MS were going to make a PC of the future with parts from yesteryear? Sounds about like their standard procedure.

 

[Solid Lifters]

Again, no one has a development kit, everyone has denied it, they have projected specs. Sony has never sent out a development kit.

Sony gave out minimum expected standards, and developers will begin work based off that. The same thing happened with the PS2, prior to it's unvieling, no one had anything on PS2 ALL VIDEOS WERE CREATED on HOMEMADE DevKits, basically the developers worked with what PS2 was supposed to be and created teasers of the "projected" specs of the PS2, and the same thing will be present for PS3. We'll start to see teasers.

It's just funny to hear someone say sony has released dev kits for a system that isn't even close to final yet. You do realize they JUST finished DEVELOPING the laser in May of 04? That they announced it would use Blu-Ray in Sep of 04?

ALL Screens/info on PS3 games are running on PC emulated hardware, that matches the expected specs...so whatever magazine you have read, I would quit reading, it's credibility is going down hill.

What's funny is you are saying they have dev kits...yet in the November issue of OPM, many developers clearly stated they do not know what PS3 will feature, and simply gave hopes of what it will have, I believe on was Konami, a Powerhouse developer...wonder why they didn't get a dev kit...hmmm.....because no one did.

Yes, they were handed something to get started. True, that can't be called dev kits like the norm, but several game companies HAVE been given something to get them started.

 

[Solid Lifters]

So MS were going to make a PC of the future with parts from yesteryear? Sounds about like their standard procedure.

No, Sony was. Ha. MS just slapped something together to get into the market. But, Sony said nobody would buy a PC like what we still have today. They said the PC would be some sort of gaming console slash PC. It's stll possible, but I doubt it will ever happen.

 

[LoudMusic]

Sounds like WebTV. Heck, I'm still waiting for either Sony or MS to produce a disk that allows people to surf the web with their console. Sony could do that easily since the PS2 has USB ports on it. You could even print stuff off to a USB printer. Infact, I've installed Linux on mine and done just about all that (with the exception of printing). It was great. But it would be nice to see a single disk boot system that doesn't require "installing" and such.

 

[tha_con]

Sony announced some time ago Blue-Ray will be the driver for the next Sony gaming console. Currently, BD (Blue-Ray Device) will hold 27GB on one single layer disc, and 54GB on one dual layered disc. However, BD version 2 will store up to 40GB on one single layer disc and 80GB on one dual layered disc. This is far more than what the PS3 will need. So, Sony is debating the idea of coming out with a compact version of the BDv2. Instead of a 12mm disc, and 8mm disc. But, this is only a rumor, but a good logical one. Sony stated in a press release that they don't want the PS3 to be a "movie player" device. Makes sense if Sony is trying to make a profit selling BD players for movies, but not if they want to make a profit selling BD movie discs.

Sorry to bicker but I love to argue.

PS3 will play movies. Period. It was announced in April of 04 that it will be backwards compatible with PS1 and 2. Thus it will play DVD's. Also, SCEE president and COO, David Reeves commented that there may be two possible PS3's avalabile for launch. One being the standard Game/Video player, ala PS2, and the other, being a "home server" basically consisting of wireless functions, and onboard HDD etc.

Also, not doubting you, but I would like to see where you got your info for BDv2...because thus far, neither the official, nor the non official blu-ray sites have announced this...

http://www.blu-raydisc.com/Section-13627/Index.html

As many sites state, there are 27GB formates, and 50GB formates, as well as a 54GB format...the only other format that is under development is the quadlayer BluRay disc, which is supposed to hold approx. 100GB (25 GB perlayer), but this is not final nor complete, simply in research and development stage.

 

[Solid Lifters]

I was waiting too. In fact, I waited so long, I bought WebTV when I heard Sony said the PS2 wont go on the internet. Then, my WebTV became outdated and I bought this PC, even though I don't like them. Now, they have WebTV2. I wished they had that several months ago, because I would have never bought this cheap PC.

 

[Solid Lifters]

Sorry to bicker but I love to argue.

PS3 will play movies. Period. It was announced in April of 04 that it will be backwards compatible with PS1 and 2. Thus it will play DVD's. Also, SCEE president and COO, David Reeves commented that there may be two possible PS3's avalabile for launch. One being the standard Game/Video player, ala PS2, and the other, being a "home server" basically consisting of wireless functions, and onboard HDD etc.

Also, not doubting you, but I would like to see where you got your info for BDv2...because thus far, neither the official, nor the non official blu-ray sites have announced this...

http://www.blu-raydisc.com/Section-13627/Index.html

As many sites state, there are 27GB formates, and 50GB formates, as well as a 54GB format...the only other format that is under development is the quadlayer BluRay disc, which is supposed to hold approx. 100GB (25 GB perlayer), but this is not final nor complete, simply in research and development stage.

I read an interview, sorry I don't have it anymore, where it was stated Sony was looking into the idea of not making the next generation game console a movie playing machine. That means no DVD movies, and no BD movies. It is not final, but a possibilty.

Sony does have a version 2 BD. It will no longer will have a cased disc, and it will hold 40GB and 80GB like I said. Here is the article regaurding the 40GD disc space.

JVC, also known as Victor Company of Japan, announced today that it has developed the world's first single lens with a numeric aperture of 0.95. The ultra-small lens has a focal length of 0.75mm, and is 1.2mm in thickness and 2.1mm in diameter, about 25% smaller in lens surface area than the smallest Blu-ray Disc system lens (NA of 0.85) the company has already developed. In principle, the new lens can boost the capacity of a 12cm-diameter single-layer disc to more than 40GB of data. The small lens will enable the development of smaller BD/DVD/CD compatible optical pickups, as well as portable Blu-ray players and other mobile devices.

Here is the article regarding Version 2.

Ceatec Japan 2003 was recently held and showed a lot of promise for the future of Blu-ray (not Bluray, Blueray or Blue-ray). Among the companies showcasing new prototypes at the exhibit were JVC, Panasonic, Pioneer, Sharp and Sony. The Blu-ray Disc Founders are currently working on 2x speed (72Mbps) versions of their Blu-ray disc recorders as well as finalizing the specs for v2.0 of the format which includes support for BD-R (recordable) and BD-ROM (read-only) discs. They plan to have the specification finished by the summer of 2004. Check out the image galleries for some new photos of Blu-ray Disc recorders and media displayed at the trade show.

 

[PhatFat]

It dosent make sense for the PS3 not to play movies because Sony isn't the only one developing a "super DVD" (although I dont remember what other company is.)and if the PS3 uses BD's then there will be millions of BD fans thus giving sony an edge.

 

[tha_con]

It will play DVD's, period. Sony makes their money from DVD's, NOT HARDWARE. For them to DISABLE DVD playback would hurt their revenue from movies. Since they have such a LARGE hand in both DVD and Blu-Ray, it would ONLY make sense for them to put out as MANY PS3's as possible, and securing DVD and Blu-Ray movie playback will ensure profits and also will back the Blu-Ray so there will be no question it will become standard Format and replace DVD.

 

[inferno]

when will we see GT5?

when will we see GT4?

 

[code_kev]

THE PS3 WILL USE BETAMAX TAPES. It's true.

 

[T5-R]

Yes, Betamax is the future, today. 💡

See my bud at the local super market who has inside info sent me this pic of the latest GT5 build tape :

Sony in a press report stated "Betamax videos give the optimium media quality that next generation consoles need, this is why we switched from the obsolete Blu-Ray format. GT5 will feature 3D people which not only stand at the side of track but also live out their lives when you turn off your PS3. This utilises the new Lifestyle Engine (TM) that has been incorporated & enabled developers to have life like characters with the touch of a keyboard a few billion times using one of our easy to use development kits"

 

[Izanagi]

Yes, Betamax is the future, today. 💡

See my bud at the local super market who has inside info sent me this pic of the latest GT5 build tape :

Sony in a press report stated "Betamax videos give the optimium media quality that next generation consoles need, this is why we switched from the obsolete Blu-Ray format. GT5 will feature 3D people which not only stand at the side of track but also live out their lives when you turn off your PS3. This utilises the new Lifestyle Engine (TM) that has been incorporated & enabled developers to have life like characters with the touch of a keyboard a few billion times using one of our easy to use development kits"

sounds kinda pointless to let them live on while we don't see them...however, the Betamax idea is worth looking into...afterall, the latest and greatest in technology doesn't have ot look or sound super-hightech to be good...i'm for it 👍

 

[213101]

hmmm i wonder how long Gran Turismo 5 will be pushed back from the original date.

 

[Izanagi]

GT5 release date: March 15, 2044

"After countless pushbacks and excuses from PD, Kazunori Yamauchi has finally decided to roll out the longest awaited game of all time after finally perfecting it to where he deemed it playable by the public. Mr. Yamauchi, 85, has been working on the game since it was first announced in 2006, hiring the best in the business to help him realize his lifes dream (as gutwrenching as it may have been to all the racing fans out there). "It's finally done," Kazunori-san reflected in a recent press conference, "I believe that I can die in peace knowing that I have created a videogame masterpeace at the expense of the fragile hearts of tens of thousands of people throught the world." After stepping down from the podium, Mr. Yamauchi collapsed and was pronounced dead ten minutes later. WOW...WHAT A B**TCH!

i can forsee this happening...to a much lesser degree....but i have a feeling that i'll have my own kids by the time he's done with the 5th installment. hehehe wow i'm really bored

 

[McLaren]

I seriously wouldn;t be surprised if PD has another team that isn't working on it, but designing and talking it over, and discussing new features.

You never know. They may be doing it right now.