Which is better? R34 or RS200?

Street Fighter · Dec 10, 2003

I've really been focusing my efforts on drifting a highly tuned (lightweight, drivetrain mods, 221hp) Toyota RS200 but recently I started drifting with a stock R34 Vspec with simulation tyres and new oil (giving it 339hp) and set the TCS and ASM both to zero.

After a few hours of driving it, I can drift this thing faster and more consistantly than my RS200 on steeper angles with next to no countersteer input except when linking or manji-ing down a straight.

I don't know alot about the mentality of drifters, so I'm curious if this four wheel drive thing is like cheating or something.

battle_stage · Dec 10, 2003

It's not cheating, but 4WD is more like a crutch. I'd stick with the RS200.

Street Fighter · Dec 10, 2003

A crutch?

XzifT · Dec 10, 2003

!^ Says it all ^! Depends what you want. Huge angles and no countersteer, or Counter, lower angles with more skill involved.

bustwave. · Dec 10, 2003

Originally posted by battle_stage
I'd stick with the RS200.

yes. so would i

Originally posted by XzifT
lower angles with more skill involved.

AWD or FR. if you are good enough you can get crazy angles with both.

XzifT · Dec 10, 2003

True, but alot, well, most people can't get AWD angles in an FR. I admit that I can't.. :lol:

nk4e · Dec 10, 2003

ill go with battle stage but i like drifting with the GTR

XzifT · Dec 10, 2003

Yeah, the GT-R IS nice. I do prefer the R32 GT-R more than the R34, though. (Check out the GTP banner. Happy Holidays!)

Street Fighter · Dec 10, 2003

Yeah, thats what it seems like to me.
FR drifting is overly difficult with so much fine tuning the angles and rpm mid-drift. It sort of takes away from the enjoyment.

With my R34 I can get hella steep angles and drift these huge lines, linking with ease, simply turning in the direction I want to drift in, then let go of the steering which causes it to basically lock onto the line I want. Then I can just steer or countersteer and add/remove acceleration as needed.

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Originally posted by XzifT
!^ Says it all ^! Depends what you want. Huge angles and no countersteer, or Counter, lower angles with more skill involved.

XzifT · Dec 10, 2003

Well do you want to push your skills or keep them where they're at and never challenge yourself?

nk4e · Dec 10, 2003

the challenge for me is the course im at

nk4e · Dec 10, 2003

Originally posted by XzifT
Well do you want to push your skills or keep them where they're at and never challenge yourself?

nice avatar

nk4e · Dec 10, 2003

Originally posted by XzifT
!^ Says it all ^! Depends what you want. Huge angles and no countersteer, or Counter, lower angles with more skill involved.

i can make a gtr a FR

Street Fighter · Dec 10, 2003

The R32 is old though. And, yes, you can get huge-ass angles with both FR and AWD but you are more prone to spinning out in an FR.

Thats why it feels like cheating.

Get to steep in an R34? Floor it and full lock counter. Boom. Front wheels pull you straight :\

nk4e · Dec 10, 2003

no i mess with the settings on my r33 alot but it acts like a FR and a 4WD

Street Fighter · Dec 10, 2003

4WD supremecy, man...
These things were built for drifting.
Not many FRs in the rally scene.

nk4e · Dec 10, 2003

yeah there is

Street Fighter · Dec 10, 2003

There is what.

nk4e · Dec 10, 2003

a FR in the rally scene

Street Fighter · Dec 10, 2003

'a FR'?

nk4e · Dec 10, 2003

Street Fighter · Dec 10, 2003

So?

The best cars are 4WD and most of the DNF's are FR cars due to spins and crashes.

nk4e · Dec 10, 2003

Drivers
1. P SOLBERG 72 Pts

2. S LOEB 71 Pts

3. C SAINZ 63 Pts

Manufacturers
1. CITROËN 160 Pts

2. PEUGEOT 145 Pts

3. SUBARU 109 Pts

Street Fighter · Dec 10, 2003

Elaborate.

nk4e · Dec 10, 2003

Originally posted by Street Fighter
Elaborate.

???
subaru is in third

Street Fighter · Dec 10, 2003

So?

CITROËN's and Peugeot's rally cars are AWD .

nk4e · Dec 10, 2003

not all of them

Ark · Dec 10, 2003

Originally posted by Street Fighter
Not many FRs in the rally scene.

The key words here are 'not many'. Which doesn't imply that the rally scene is devoid of FR types altogether. And yes, 4WD and AWD cars seem to simply thrash the RWDs, if those scores are anything to go by.

XzifT · Dec 10, 2003

I thought we were talking about drifting here..not rallys. Yes WRC does have drifting in it, but..Okay, whatever. :odd:

Street Fighter · Dec 10, 2003

We are still talking about drifting.

I was just saying, there are more 4WD cars than FR cars in rally and that rally emphasizes on drifting, simply because it is faster than grip driving in those conditions.

Also, it seems 4WD cars are more effective at drifting than the FR's and FR cars are more effective at grip driving than 4WD's.