Why Kaz needs to go...

Discussion in 'Gran Turismo 6' started by cassiusclay99, Feb 27, 2014.

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Do you think Kaz should retire from GT?

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  2. No.

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  1. diegorborges

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    It will be A LOT better actually. Because in some areas GT6 is starting ahead of GT5.

    I can't wait for new content, features, updates... but we have to wait...

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    Or start your own game studio. :idea:

    And develop a racing game yourself! :drool:

    Then you'll see that your racing game will carry a lot of your vision and wishes. :bowdown:

    And people will love it and want to make it their game. :boggled:

    And you'll have a hard time trying to balance your vision with their vision. And even with all the work and love you'll have to read that you are the problem. :(


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    This is insane. A lot of people want to complain but nobody wants to see the other side... If half of the people complaining put themselves in the other side of the story, I bet you guys would be a bit more calm.
     
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  2. He needs a kick in the ass is what he needs
     
  3. HuskyGT

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    It's an interesting point, I must say.

    He needs to find partnership with another developer. Preferably outside Japan. This game is pretty much running based on popularity rather than being the best thing out there. It took me until the sixth installment to realize this.

    It's still to early to place a final judgement on the franchise though.
     
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  4. Devil240Z

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    If he were we would all be playing GT7 by now and GT6 would be a couple years old.
     
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  5. Corsa911

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    Bro it's not that serious.

    Where else can you go and pretend to drive cars that provides this many options?

    And what more could you want?

    This games about driving, period.

    Its not about stupid updates, and shuffle racing, and whatever else someone decides to whine about.

    The driving in gt6 though yes haters it has flaws, is awesome.

    And yes I'm a fan boy, because I love this game.
     
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  6. symo63

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    I agree. Good job.
     
  7. Downhill Dino

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    Yeah, this is true but it doesn't take away the fact he is experienced. As someone earlier in the thread said, it's not all Mr Yamauchi's fault, it's the entire team (or maybe certain portions) that are having difficulties.
     
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  8. sumbrownkid

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    I'm not expecting Kaz to be leaving the scene anytime soon.
     
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  9. Razgriz_2142

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    how have you come to that conclusion, honestly if Studio Liverpool were still around and Evolution had the man power i'd hand over the reigns to them.Its a shame Liverpool arent around anymore they made some fantastic racers and F1 back on the PS2 before GT3 was a powerhouse in terms of tech.

    In all honesty, what you've said is purely baseless the developers who would most likely take over know the seies roots and i know for a fact they would never want to upset the massive fanbase the series has by implementing such drastic changes, GT needs to modenise itself and fast.Still a great driving game but there aspects that need a massive overhaul.
     
  10. Youngun

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    Because the game has changed, PDs playing the wrong game.
     
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  11. Devil240Z

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    I guess I mean he needs someone around who REALLY REALLY knows how to ship a game on time.
     
  12. Tier 2 Racing

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    My predecessor once told me, "I don't have 30 years experience, I have 1 year experience, thirty times."

    That statement is true for a lot of things.
     
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  13. Earth

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    You have to give Kaz credit for what he has done. His passion for cars can be felt in his games, and alot of the ideas he implemented in Gran Turismo like race mods, B-Spec, tuning parts, and car washes were new, fresh and exciting.

    I think the problem is Kaz has simply ran out of ideas and hanst pushed the series forward. On his watch he has allowed core aspects of gameplay like AI, sound, and damage to become neglected in favor of superficial marketing stunts like GT Academy and GT Vision cars. Essentially, he forgot GT is a game. And gamers dont buy games that arent very good at being what they are. Sales numbers seem to reflect that.

    Im willing to give Kaz and PD one last chance with GT7. Maybe they just got too comfortable at the top and fell asleep while the competition zipped past them. And maybe GT6 sales numbers are the wakeup call Kaz and his team needs? If they dont address legacy issues with GT7, then the franchise is dead, and there will be no successor to Kaz because GT will be no more.

    Kaz use to know best, because there was nobody else in the room but him. Now with SMS, Turn 10, and others raising the bar, Kaz appears to still be beating the old realistic graphics and physics drum into the ground. Problem is, everybody has realistic graphics and physics on consoles nowadays. The differences between how all these games will look and feel on next gen consoles will be minute to a casual observer. What will set them apart is the gameplay. Who has the best car list, the funnest modes and single player, the best multiplayer options, and more. Kaz still thinks graphics and physics will sell his game like it did 10 years ago. It wont. Everybody has caught up. And without clearly superior graphics and physics suddenly the other weak elements in your game are exposed even moreso.

    It's Kaz's job to understand all this. GT6 is the first time his franchise has reached a turning point. All he has to do is turn. The road straight ahead leads off a cliff. I doubt he will take the franchsie that way, so I think GT7 should turn out pretty good.
     
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    Oh yeah. Yeah, let's get rid of Kaz as if he's the problem of GT... Attempt that, kill the GT series, do not continue it with someone else because it'll turn to crap and won't solve anything. Instead, it'll be a cash in if anything.
     
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  16. TurismoBad

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    He mentioned sound, AI, online and every other thing that need work at some point in the past. He knows what needs to be done. Yes it may be taking a great deal of time but removing Kaz wont make PD coding faster.

    If anything they need more hands.
     
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  17. KinLM

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    The issue isn't that Kaz doesn't have any vision for the future.

    He has great visions. He just doesn't have the resources to make them come true.

    Firing Kaz would be even worse for GT. Kaz is the best man for the job. He just needs more people. Less than 200 people working on a massive video game in 2014 with no outsourcing is a massive undertaking.
     
  18. NixxxoN

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    Is this a joke? Of course not. Kaz is the creator of the GT series. No Kaz, no GT.

    What he needs is some signings for his PD team. People that could bring new ideas and bring new qualities missing within PD as of today... for example the slow speed that they're doing the stuff.
    PD needs some performance upgrades as when you go to the tuning shop at GT6 and buy upgrades for a better perfomance, thats it.
     
  19. andryush

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    Evolution Studios? You mean guys who made Motorstorm? And Studio Liverpool, Wipeout guys and Formula 1 games... This games were bit of arcadeish in nature. Are you serious about handing over GT series form guy which is motorsports insider to guys who make arcade games? I would say definitely no to that. Also PD is Japanese developer with unique approach to GT series. Look at once famous japanese Final Fantasy series which is trying to please western buyers. It's a mess! Japanese games must keep its uniqueness. If GT would be made by other studios, it would loose its unique spirit. Kaz makes it unique.

    Kaz released GT6 in very poor form, i can't understand why he did that. The only reason that comes to my mind is Sony rushing him to do that. Sony wanted GT6 on PS3 in december 2013, and this is all Kaz was able to offer to us to that date. Maybe he was in process of re-working mechanics of GT series... i don't know. Gaming industry is business, if you can make money on same CoD every year, why would you want to do something completely new? I'm 100% sure, GT7 on PS4 will address most of flaws of GT5 and 6, and Sony will allow Kaz make GT as he wants, but not ideal, so they can make money on little better GT8...))) I'm starting to hate gaming industry... if nothing changes through the years, soon i will stop supporting this kind of exploitation of our wallets.
     
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  20. Pupik

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    Let's impeach him! Vote him out of office! Recall him!

    None of the above!
     
  21. G_T_R

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    Your profile pic, hilarious.

    :lol::tup:
     
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  22. TB

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    If you really despise the man and want to make him feel it, hit him where it hurts. Keep the money in your wallet, not his, stop buying his product and see how fast things change.
     
  23. TwistedView

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    The game is what it is. Maybe I have been playing too long, but I don't see an issue with GT. There are many games to choose from, but I prefer this one because it stays true to itself. I look at this as a driving simulator, not a racing game. Just like there are flight simulators that allow you to fly planes from point to point and others allow combat. I think the problem lies with many people wanting to change the game into something that it was never meant to be. Remember when Need for speed was a simple game? Now it has evolved into something completly different from it's roots and many people have turned away from it.

    Long story short. Clasics are special because they don't change. Take a look at these other threads and notice that most of the complaints are from changes or omissions. Most of the things being asked for are provided in other venues. Instead of looking to make this into something it's not, enjoy what it is. Kaz has done a great job creating a driving simulator, leave racing to another game and just tighten up on the details.
     
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    Nah. Some of the fans have just gotten really good at convincing themselves it's not a racing game after 15 years of complaining about the AI. Until the racing is fixed, or they remove it entirely, making it so that the game can be played without having to race for credits, people are going to complain about the racing. Just pretending it's not a racing game, for most people, is not going to fix the issues that bother them.

    Of course, demanding that Kaz be fired, repeatedly, over a number of past versions of GT, hasn't helped so far either.
     
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  25. C_Raccoon23

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    Stagnating isn't good either, and that's what it sounds like you want GT to keep doing. It's funny how you say people are trying to change GT and omit things from it. The most popular requested features in the suggestions forum look like they want to make GT better, not transform it into something else. Please explain how wanting better sounds, AI, a livery editor, and an event creator will ruin GT because those are some of the most demanded features right now in that part of the forum.
     
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  26. TenEightyOne

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    If you had any sources better than your own opinion and the dearth of update information available to the public then this would be worth debating. As it is, noted. It seems to you that Kaz has no vision.

    You love GT so much that you made this thread yet you want to remove the person whose identity is at the core of it's creation and development? You think Kaz or his replacement write the menu code? He is the game producer in charge of the overall concept of GT. Personally I like what he's done with it, it's the budget support coders that need to be dropped.

    That's only my opinion and therefore as worthless a bleat as yours ;)

    For me the game is about being on track, racing door to door with fast clean racers. There's plenty of that, I don't give a donkey's duodenum for glitzy fan features. Everything else is just waiting, remember?
     
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  28. TwistedView

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    Understood, but I did say "tighten up on the details". AI is one of those details. The livery editor would be nice, but it will not break the game if one dosen't come along. If one is added, that would be something else for people to complain about. Everyone wouldn't agree whai it will or will not include. Not to mention possibly break something else that works in the game, lol.
     
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  29. ProjectWHaT

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    Oh boy. Another thread about throwing Kaz off the throne.

    Not that throne.
     
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  30. Mickegg

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    Not a racing game?

    The only forms of driving in this game is racing... against the clock, against AI or against other people...
     
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