Why so many "standard" cars in GT6?

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I am a little bit angry. We have so many proffesionals: graphic designers, automobile designers, good people in IT, many of them have not got a job. And customers in the end have still all bugs, standard 12 years old car models. So I'm guesing that the customers means near to nothing to Kazunori, am I right?
 
The whole standard/premium thing is really annoying to me as well. I've never seen, nor heard of another game where the car models weren't all of the same graphic quality. I mean sure, some may not have been modeled as well as others, but they all belonged in the same game. GT was supposedly built around the developer's love of automobiles, yet the car models have received no love at all. I won't even buy standard cars in the game unless I really, really need one for a race. There's something about playing with a car with the graphic detail of a PSP game, surrounded by PS3 graphics that cheapens the experience. The whole standard/premium cop-out has severely shortened this game (and GT5) for me.
 
And another thing. In GT5 standard cars were available in used cars store, which was kind of ok. Now we have them all in new cars category. So its not that fun to collect them, because it all come down only for having enough money. If You have enough (which is very hard to get in GT6) You can buythis is every car You want.

IMO we don't have that element of suprice, exitment anymore when buying cars.
 
Don't get me wrong, I like this huge amount of cars some of the standards are cool too. But the thing is, Polyphony Digital should develop whole product to better standard. I remember the era of GT3 and GT4. There where revolutionary achievments in terms of graphics and ultra realistic models etc. They should step up and listen customers too. This is importand.

You know why i stopped playing GT on PS2? Because of stupid computer opponents and there was no olnine back then. I king of regret this, because of whole GT Academy thing.
 
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CAMAROBOY69
Congrats, they will still be in GT7 so you will have plenty of reading material for the next 5-10 years. 👎
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To answer the OP, in my opinion because they are lazy and copy pasting stuff is easy. They also know their fans wouldn't mind too much if they put it under the presumption of "car collecting love"
 
Kaz & PD are crippled by nostalgia, they just can't let them go, especially all those Skylines!


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Because Kaz apparently doesn't want to disappointed fans if he removes them, as if that's the only thing they like about GT. Car count... He's purposely saying that to obviously keep the quanitity going. GT7 won't be seeing quality either.
 
As far as physics are concerned, standards are no different than premiums. That is all I really care about. I use bumper cam even for premium cars so the graphics don't affect me.

Should they upgrade the visual quality? Of course. Am I going to be mad if they don't for GT7? Yes. Will it make me not buy GT7? No, but if that's the case it will be the last GT that I buy.
 
If you don't like standard cars, just do NOT buy them. That is it.

I don't think PD does anything wrong by having standard cars there. Whoever likes it buy it, whoever doesn't, just don't bother with it. PD is simply give you an OPTION there. an OPTION is better than NOTHING.

Also, expecting thousands of premium car is very unrealistic from the cost/benefit analysis stand point. We are paying a flat fee (less than 50) for this game but expect the company to invest tons of hours modeling all cars all in premium forms. That is not going to happen unless we are paying much more for this game. They may sell the car in DLC form?? Then, you will complain again about why it cost this and that. What they are doing right now is cost control. If you expect more, you also need to pay more. It is simple as that. They need to make profit to stay in business!

I'm not sure if some of you complainers have played RPG games online, some of the items are subscription service in which we pay like $30 a month just to have a pet for a month, $28 to log in per month, 30 dollars for some avatar, another 30 for some stones to upgrade your weapon but the stone can fail so everytime it fails you pay another 30 more. In GT6, we don't have to worry about this. Some players in games like that easily spend $1000 to even $5000 in less than a year. Having gone through those games, i find GT6 way way more cheaper to play and I really appreciate PD doing the flat fee game and provide FREE online service.
 
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FSportIS
If you don't like standard cars, just do NOT buy them. That is it.
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If you feel that's a reasonable position, here's the exact same position on the opposite side of the argument.

If you want standard cars play GT3-6, they don't belong in a next-gen game.
 
I do agree with you that PS4 should not have any standard cars. I myself don't like standard cars and I usually buy premium cars in the game anyways. However, there are some folks who still like them or some folks who like to collect tons of cars, then this can be an option for them.

The ideal world is that ALL cars should be premium. However, I would imagine PD have to charge us more for the game because this increase the cost on their end to model so many cars and recording their sound on each car (which seems like what they are promising).
 
There's no way PD is going to throw out hundreds of perfectly awesome cars just because they look like crap to some jaded people.
 
FSportIS
I do agree with you that PS4 should not have any standard cars. I myself don't like standard cars and I usually buy premium cars in the game anyways. However, there are some folks who still like them or some folks who like to collect tons of cars, then this can be an option for them.

The ideal world is that ALL cars should be premium. However, I would imagine PD have to charge us more for the game because this increase the cost on their end to model so many cars and recording their sound on each car (which seems like what they are promising).
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Here are some numbers to chew on.
-SMS is creating Project Cars on a budget rumoured at $5-6Million. PD's budget for GT5 was $60Million.
-SMS is creating an entire game from scratch + about 70 cars and 40 tracks. We can make some assumptions to deduce the modeling costs. Assuming about half the money is eaten up by licensing and overhead, non-modeling staff costs and other development costs, that puts the average car or track at less than $30,000.
-At $30k/car if you added 500 cars to GT7 it would add $15Million to the cost of the game using SMS's numbers.
-If you sell 10 Million units that's $1.50 per unit, throw in a 60% markup and you're looking at $2.50 per unit.

Do you think anyone would complain if the cost of GT7 was $72.45 instead of $69.95 and had 500 more of these in it?:

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There is absolutely nothing wrong with having standard cars in the game. Don't like 'em? Don't use 'em. It's that simple. There's still pleanty of 'premium cars' in the game for you to enjoy. 👍
 
Doodle
There is absolutely nothing wrong with having standard cars in the game. Don't like 'em? Don't use 'em. It's that simple. There's still pleanty of 'premium cars' in the game for you to enjoy. 👍
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Like Johnny said above.
Johnnypenso
If you feel that's a reasonable position, here's the exact same position on the opposite side of the argument.

If you want standard cars play GT3-6, they don't belong in a next-gen game.
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TokoTurismo
Like Johnny said above.
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It's PD's choice if they want to put 'standard cars' in the next game. It's your choice if you want to play the game or not. In fact, I bet a ton of people would be upset if the standard cars went away! Their popularity online and offline are off the charts! Who the hell cares if it's 'next-gen'?
 
SuzukaStar
There's no way PD is going to throw out hundreds of perfectly awesome cars just because they look like crap to some jaded people.
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"Perfectly awesome."

Please, this in GT7 on the PS4 would be a joke.
Doodle
It's PD's choice if they want to put 'standard cars' in the next game. It's your choice if you want to play the game or not. In fact, I bet a ton of people would be upset if the standard cars went away! Their popularity online and offline are off the charts! Who the hell cares if it's 'next-gen'?
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Pretty much anyone who has expectations.
 
All in love for the standard cars , graphics really dont bother me in the slightest (they could do with smoothing better) all id like is the in-car view to be tweaked on them as they do seem to give a weird feel of feed back when using the in-car view , seem to feel bit like boats even when the cars set up stiff.
 
Doodle
It's PD's choice if they want to put 'standard cars' in the next game. It's your choice if you want to play the game or not. In fact, I bet a ton of people would be upset if the standard cars went away! Their popularity online and offline are off the charts! Who the hell cares if it's 'next-gen'?
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Again, using your own logic, if next-gen is irrelevant to the discussion, don't buy a PS4, keep your PS2 and 3 and play with all the standard cars you want.
 
Johnnypenso
Again, using your own logic, if next-gen is irrelevant to the discussion, don't buy a PS4, keep your PS2 and 3 and play with all the standard cars you want.
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Pretty much anyone who has expectations.
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I have expectations too you know. I just want the driving feel to be very similar to what it is now, slightly improved graphics, and maybe clean up some of the jagged edges on a few of these so called 'standard cars'. Like I've said a million times, if you don't like 'em, don't use 'em!!
 
I'm sorry to say your logic is not really logical.

I like GT6 regardless of whether or not it has standard cars. In my opinion, having standard car is an OPTION. If you don't like it, don't buy it. I prefer premium cars more than standard cars so I mainly buy premium cars in game. Having standard cars as an OPTION in game does not make me hate the game.

Also, by that logic (I like GT6 regardless of the existence of standard cars), I will continue support PD and buy GT7 again regardless of the existence of standard cars because standard cars again is merely an option. If you don't like it, don't buy it!!!

Now following that same logic, if you do NOT like GT7 that has standard car, do NOT buy GT7. If you don't like any GT series that have standard cars such as GT6, STOP playing it.

The logic is simple, I like the game, i enjoy playing it. It should be you who should not buy GT7 since you hate the standard cars so much.

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Also, it is NOT logical to say that I like standard cars simply because I don't cry about it. There is a position where someone doesn't like standard cars and at the same time don't cry about it because that person can simply choose to not buy those standard car.

Also, it is NOT logical to infer that someone who likes standard cars "should not buy PS4". Buying PS4 or not is an option by itself and whoever likes it can buy it.

It is very simple logic: If you don't like it, don't buy it!

last but not least, CRYING ABOUT STANDARD CARS is also an option and it is LOGICAL in this case that you continue doing it because you hate standard cars so keep up the crying about standard cars.

End of discussion.

Johnnypenso
Again, using your own logic, if next-gen is irrelevant to the discussion, don't buy a PS4, keep your PS2 and 3 and play with all the standard cars you want.
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