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This is never a valid response to anything.If youre such an amazing game designer then why dont you design your own racing sim game...
This is never a valid response to anything.If youre such an amazing game designer then why dont you design your own racing sim game...
Everyone was expecting too much from this game.
For many reasons that probably we'll never know, there are some flaws.
But thats not a reason to blame PD.
Who ever believes that PD didnt do their best isnt thinking straight.
When this game was released, everyone was trying to find mistakes, flaws, negative things......to a koukou level.
They didnt played the game. they havent even done a lap...but they were spending their time and whats left of their brain to find mistakes in GT5.
No other game was under so much fire even before release day.
(and dont say that its cause it took 5 years to Develop.....see diablo, and lets see if it will be criticized soooo much).
There is no perfect product , or will be, especially when it will have to be criticized by 6.000.000+ users and the majority of them kids.
Everyone was expecting too much from this game.
For many reasons that probably we'll never know, there are some flaws.
But thats not a reason to blame PD.
Go away, everyone is fed up of debating with you.Toyota released a bunch of cars that had to be recalled because the gas pedals stuck and several people got killed. But that's not a reason to blame Toyota
PD designed this game from the ground up and built it. If you don't blame them for the flaws, please tell me who you do think is responsible?
I will argue with that comment, because I find it to be generalizing things and people.No one can argue about this comment right here. Pure truth.
He's right though, so be a pretend moderator somewhere else.Go away, everyone is fed up of debating with you.
We get it, you don't like the game.
Go away, everyone is fed up of debating with you.
We get it, you don't like the game.
Go away, everyone is fed up of debating with you.
We get it, you don't like the game.
Because net-whining is the new black.I must have missed the memo where we decided to see how many different threads can have the same crap in them. I mean, really?
Frankly, I'd be fine with this. GT5 has shown that you can push the PS3 really hard in just about every aspect: graphics, physics and sound, but only so far. While it looks better than most PC games and races similarly to some PC sims, the graphic glitches hurt the impression of the game for many. Trying to put real time lighting and 3D on this engine seem to have pushed it a bit too far.Considering how long it took for the game to release on the PlayStation 3, I don't think we'll be seeing the sixth title on the console. As such, while some people may disagree about it being a bad game, the volume of complaints regarding it is actually a good thing as it requires Polyphony Digitial to listen to us, so while I don't see it go away entirely, it should gradually subside into being the exception instead of the norm with stuffs like this only happening maybe once or twice but not on this magnitude.
Toyota released a bunch of cars that had to be recalled because the gas pedals stuck and several people got killed. But that's not a reason to blame Toyota
PD designed this game from the ground up and built it. If you don't blame them for the flaws, please tell me who you do think is responsible?
When you are in a GT forum and get laughed because you say that you are happy with the game, get trolled or criticized every time you show the strong points, and get clapped every time you bash the developer you know something has changed in this community, and is not because the game is not perfect but because some people like to over react to make things much worse than they are. The same people work the inverse when they talk about its favourite games, nothing new but now they are more than ever.Its not like they physically slapped you in the face. We've all played games that were overhyped and/or unfinished upon release but you can't give them credit for at least trying to reach their goals after release? While in the meantime you're blasting them for things you don't understand, or know the full story about? (Car licensing issues, outside pressure to release the game, anything Sony may have nixed or demanded, just to name a few) Kaz stated it would be a work in progress, so it shouldn't be a surprise if some things are quirky.
To me its obvious that they're taking a new direction with this game, and I'd like to see where the finish line is, so to speak, before I stamp this game with a failing grade.
Please keep this thread civilized and constructive. My questions are genuine and in no way meant to be offensive. Speaking from your heart is welcome, just please use the fire extinguisher on your way in.![]()
I'm curious, but what exactly is your point?The way the economy works: if a company makes a bad product, people won't buy it, won't buy anything of them in the future.
Can you follow the rules of the economy instead of trying to bore everyone to death with hysterics about some unimportant rule.
I'm curious, but what exactly is your point?
It usually depends on how much you spam the boards, and your attitude...If someone says something that you don't like, no matter how logical, you just come back with 'If you don't like it, don't play it' or some nonsensical statement designed to sound logical, but is really meaningless.
I'd say that any company that can release a game like GT5 in its debut form, and subsequent patches that cause so much grief and hostility within a forum community such as what I've seen here at GTP, deserves all the hate it receives.
I've honestly never seen a forum for one game have a member base so divided, and openly hostile towards each other as this one is.![]()
Really? That makes the company deserving of hate, because it has 'fans' who are this ridiculously immature, and aren't afraid to show their immaturity publicly?I'd say that any company that can release a game like GT5 in its debut form, and subsequent patches that cause so much grief and hostility within a forum community such as what I've seen here at GTP, deserves all the hate it receives.
I've honestly never seen a forum for one game have a member base so divided, and openly hostile towards each other as this one is.![]()
I've honestly never seen a forum for one game have a member base so divided, and openly hostile towards each other as this one is.![]()
Honestly......That must be the worst example that you could give.Toyota released a bunch of cars that had to be recalled because the gas pedals stuck and several people got killed. But that's not a reason to blame Toyota
As i said already "we may never know".PD designed this game from the ground up and built it. If you don't blame them for the flaws, please tell me who you do think is responsible?
No you (not in person) generalizing things when you say PD sucks.I will argue with that comment, because I find it to be generalizing things and people.
Cause is GT..... and Yes cause some things you must be real loony to even spend 1sec to find them and even more to troll about them.Ask youselves why so many people were trying to find flaws in this game. Because all of them are idiots
Yes, cause i play GT from GT1 release, and games in general over 20 years and when i get a game the 1st thing that i want to do is to "play it", not to find mistakes.who don't have anything better to do?
GT5 is more than good, all the flaws in this game is outside the track, on the track is the best racing game ever made, and in a racing game that is what matters the most.Everything has flaws, but noone cares as long as the product itself is good.
in that level ....No its not natural.If it isn't, people will start nitpicking, it's completely natural.
But to troll and complain for every useless thing that does not feat your taste .....well thats a goood GT5 substance.I could even argue that the sheer amount of complaining is a sign for lack of quality, that people were not seduced to shut up and play because there simply wasn't enough substance to be played.
The game is enormous, from everything on the track.... to the car collection, the info/description for 1000+ cars, the paints, the name of each paint, the online, the museum cards, the horns, the photo mode and the list goes on and on.......I'm absolutely sure that PD gave their best, but given the result, I must question the goals they set themselves in the first place. See premium cars as an example. They look awesome in the game and have an unparalleled amount of details. Yet, as it shows, they consumed so much time that PD had to take shortcuts elsewhere. I understand that Kaz wanted the cars to be like this, I would have too if I had had the choice. But if it ain't doable in time, you must find shorter and more efficient ways to achieve your goals.
Honestly......That must be the worst example that you could give.
As i said already "we may never know".
Do you honestly believe that PD wanted to release a game with flaws?
They wanted all this heat? They released GT5 on purpose with mistakes?
or you think they are useless?
Not to mention....... that in 5 years many things change, and they may have changed their plans 1000 times for 1000 reasons.
You cant expect a game with all this aspects (i think thats the right word) to be perfect and be done in 5 years.
To be real and honest....the actual flaws/mistakes are 2, that the 1 triggers a chain of problems.
The problem is Lack of races (including the rally races)........cause of that the XP and the low cash system fails...Cause you have to re-race 10000 times the same races, to gain money and XP......plus+ no races = short game.....especially compared to previous GT's.
You certainly can. Maybe it would need a patch or two, but not on THIS level. Ever play Flight Simulator? Try modeling 24,000 airports in every country in the world and the entire world terrain modeled to within 30 meters (even less in the next edition). Add auto-generating scenery, modeling water, seaplanes, even aircraft carrier landings. Then of course, there's real-time weather and clouds. Oh, yeah and make it so players can build their own planes then add them into the game.