Windows... 10?!?

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What's this about Windows 10 updates CANNOT be turned off :mad:

They nearly always mess up your machine, plus if your in the middle of an important project you won't want your computer to suddenly brick on you. I only install them all at once every few months when its convenient for me, I don't want MS choosing when to do it.
 
I think it's only for certain editions of Win10, Home iirc.

But yes, not good. I hope this decision is reversed/hackable.
 
Sureboss
I think it's only for certain editions of Win10, Home iirc.

But yes, not good. I hope this decision is reversed/hackable.
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As I understand it updates are forced for Home edition only (I don't believe there's a Home Basic and home Premium any more but I could be wrong), Pro and Enterprise will allow you to defer updates.

I'd like to know if creating a Windows/Microsoft account is mandatory and if not how much functionality is reduced by not having an account.
 
Robin.
What's this about Windows 10 updates CANNOT be turned off :mad:

They nearly always mess up your machine, plus if your in the middle of an important project you won't want your computer to suddenly brick on you. I only install them all at once every few months when its convenient for me, I don't want MS choosing when to do it.
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I don't think that it is that big of a deal. I think it is at most is Windows auto downloading updates, but you still have the option of when to install them. I have the auto update setup on my version of Windows 7, and it is just a simple matter of clicking a postpone button every so often (4 hours at most).
 
Sanji Himura
I don't think that it is that big of a deal. I think it is at most is Windows auto downloading updates, but you still have the option of when to install them. I have the auto update setup on my version of Windows 7, and it is just a simple matter of clicking a postpone button every so often (4 hours at most).
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Problem with windows update is, it quits everything and restarts at the worst of times.
I dont see why windows has to restart for every bloody update.

I have done all the updates on my linux partition and the most I have had to do is log off and then log back on.
 
Can anyone tell me if I'm supposed to get a flag come up on Windows 7 to reserve Win 10, like there is with Win 8? haven't seen anything yet, despite having the requisite update installed.
 
DG_Silva
Can anyone tell me if I'm supposed to get a flag come up on Windows 7 to reserve Win 10, like there is with Win 8? haven't seen anything yet, despite having the requisite update installed.
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Yeah, I've got all installed, Windows Update is on, Windows 7 Pro SP1 genuine version, PC will be powerful enough to run it, blah blah blah; I've got everything right, but it just won't come up....
 
DG_Silva
Yeah, I've got all installed, Windows Update is on, Windows 7 Pro SP1 genuine version, PC will be powerful enough to run it, blah blah blah; I've got everything right, but it just won't come up....
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Can you post up a screen cap? I think I know what it is, but I need proof.
 
DG_Silva
Yeah, I've got all installed, Windows Update is on, Windows 7 Pro SP1 genuine version, PC will be powerful enough to run it, blah blah blah; I've got everything right, but it just won't come up....
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So your not getting that windows icon on the task bar?
 
DG_Silva
Yes, that's correct. Everything is up to date, and there should be no reason why it isn't showing, but it 's just not there.

@Sanji Himura, what do you need a screen capture of?
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I had the same issue on Win7 x64 SP1

I posted this on post 287

If you do not have the "Reserve Windows 10" Icron on the taskbar.

You must have Windows 7 SP1 or Windows 8.1

Firstly check to make sure you have the needed updates installed.
For Windows 7 SP1:
KB3035583*
KB2952664

For Windows 8.1 Update:
KB3035583*
KB2976978

*= this is the update that gives you the upgrade prompt.

To check if you have the updates

Open a command prompt as an admin and type in the following

dism /online /get-packages | findstr 3035583

Just replace the number part with the KB number(without KB)

You should get a message like this
C:\>dism /online /get-packages | findstr 3035583

Package Identity : Package_for_KB3035583~31bf3856ad364e35~amd64~~6.3.1.29

If you have the updates but you do not have the icon still.

Open notepad and type in the following

reg add "HKLM\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\AppCompatFlags\Appraiser" /v UtcOnetimeSend /t REG_DWORD /d 1 /f

schtasks /run /TN "\Microsoft\Windows\Application Experience\Microsoft Compatibility Appraiser"

:CompatCheckRunning

schtasks /query /TN "\Microsoft\Windows\Application Experience\Microsoft Compatibility Appraiser"

schtasks /query /TN "\Microsoft\Windows\Application Experience\Microsoft Compatibility Appraiser" | findstr Ready

if NOT "%errorlevel%" == "0" ping localhost >nul &goto :CompatCheckRunning

:RunGWX

schtasks /run /TN "\Microsoft\Windows\Setup\gwx\refreshgwxconfig"

And save the notepad as windows10.bat and save it in C:\
make sure you have save as all files selected.

Using the command prompt go to C:\ and type in windows10.bat to run it, it will take a short time.

After this if successful you should have the icon on the taskbar.

If you still do not have it you will have to uninstall KB3035583 and then reinstall it
Reinstalling this update can be tricky as it may not be offered via windows update and will have to be installed manually.

For windows 7 SP1 x64 users this is the update that I had to reinstall, after I did this the GWX.exe process started up and I got the upgrade icon.
http://download.windowsupdate.com/d..._d6308e28c41fcbd15695343d83709ed1c4bf5812.msu

http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/...i/848b5cce-958b-49ae-a132-a999a883265b?page=1

I had to uninstall the update and then reinstall it for it to work.
 
Hmmm, it appears I may have an old version of KB3035583, the ident comes up with 6.1.1.20. I'm going to try removing it and then reinstalling the update. Here goes nothing....

EDIT: Uninstalled the old version, ran GWX, so it's just a case of waiting now... The only thing I can think of is because I have a OEM multi-license version of Win 7 Pro, would this cause the issues?
 
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You dont need to run the GWX.exe.

After I uninstalled KB3035583 in programs and features and reinstalled it using the link for it, it popped up after the update.

But I have win 7 SP1 x64.
 
DG_Silva
Yes, I have Win 7 Pro SP1 x64 as well. It's still not coming up... I guess I'm going to have to wait until it becomes available and just download it.

@Sanji Himura

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If you have uninstalled the KB3035583 update from programs and features and then installed it using the update file
http://download.windowsupdate.com/d..._d6308e28c41fcbd15695343d83709ed1c4bf5812.msu

It should work.

The thing I posted is a script to rescan your PC to make sure it meets the requirements but try installing the uninstalling and reinstalling the update.
 
DG_Silva
Yep, done that, still no good... Could it be AV or malware blocker stopping it from working?
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Might be

You can try re running the task in task scheduler

Just select the GWXtriggers folder and click the run on the right panel

GWXtriggers can be found in
Task Schedule Library>Microsoft>Windows>Setup.
 
You might need a few more updates like SP1.

The only windows computers that are not getting the free update are VLK(Volume License Key) used in schools and what not, and Enterprise which is used in workplaces.
All other versions are getting it.
 

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