Windows... 10?!?

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Rickster
And ill just stick to W7 for another 10 years, because its perfect for me.
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That's what I though when I got XP, I thought it was fantastic until I had to make the switch to 7 (for various reasons). I adore Win7. I didn't want 8 because it seems like a mobile platform - I and I can't bear to picture it running on my desktop. I got a windows phone last year (now updated to WP8.1) and I love the interface. Like mentioned before it would be nice if Microsoft had an iOS and OSX operating systems for mobile platforms and PC.
 
I have no issue with Windows 8, I upgraded my desktop and laptop to windows 8 shortly after it came out. Very easy to use, and neither device has a touch screen. I don't do a lot of work with my computers, and the programs I run run in desktop mode, so it works in such a similar fashion to the older windows, except with the windows key acting as a quick shortcut between programs. I find it fast and fluid.

Windows 9 will be interesting to see how it unfolds. There is mention of the charms bar being removed, which I hope there isn't, or if it is, there is a logical replacement for it. I'm not really looking forward to the return of the start menu of old, but I'm open to seeing how windows 9 changes things and judging it then. Can't say I've had any issue with any of the Windows OS's in a big way.
 
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terminator363
That's what I though when I got XP, I thought it was fantastic until I had to make the switch to 7 (for various reasons). I adore Win7. I didn't want 8 because it seems like a mobile platform - I and I can't bear to picture it running on my desktop. I got a windows phone last year (now updated to WP8.1) and I love the interface. Like mentioned before it would be nice if Microsoft had an iOS and OSX operating systems for mobile platforms and PC.
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They kinda do have their own mobile platform.

Windows RT.
 
I HATE Windows 8, have since I first saw it. I have absolutely no use for active apps on my screen, I don't even use them on a phone. As for Start Menu, it's still there if you look at it a certain way. That stupid interface is the contents of what used to be the start menu, with every single selection sprayed onto one ultra-wide screen. What the hell?!?!?!?

I evaluated a Surface Pro a few weeks ago, and I liked it much more than I though I would. I looked forward to seeing the touch interface on an actual touch device. Thing is, the one most useful aspect of the surface is that it has a keyboard!!!!

Every aspect of actually configuring Windows 8 is deeper into some mysterious menu somewhere than it was in Windows 7. Don't ask me how long it took to find how to change the key to a wireless network the first time I had to do it (and Google was the first place I went!)

The up-down cycle image is perfect, and I've been telling my customers that ever since 8 first came out. "Remember ME? Remember Vista? Win8 is right there!"

I have very high hopes for 9, and I'm looking forward to the next "good" development result!
 
After using Windows 8.1 for about a month now, I cannot understand the hate anymore. I'm using Classic Start and other than that, it doesn't feel very much different from Windows 7 and the switch was actually easier than anticipated.
 
I'm still a happy W7 user. If the start button makes a comeback in W9 then I might consider making the switch.
 
There are countless third party start buttons that you can install for free or under $5 that give you a Start button in Win8. It's about as lame an excuse as the "PS3 has no games" thing at this point.
 
I'm using Pokki.

The point is, though... you shouldn't need to customize the OS to work on a fairly standard computer.

Of course, my main beef with 8 is something that you can retroactively apply to most Windows systems when running on hardware that was out when they were launched...

It's too damn heavy.

I do a lot of intensive graphics work, and I need a system that doesn't use up available resources for fancy graphical effects I don't really need.

But then, that's just me.
 
Grayfox
They kinda do have their own mobile platform.

Windows RT.
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I know but my problem is that Win 8 looks so much like an mobile operating platform it blurs the lines between desktop and mobile (some tablets use Windows 8 too I think?).
 
Noob616
There are countless third party start buttons that you can install for free or under $5 that give you a Start button in Win8. It's about as lame an excuse as the "PS3 has no games" thing at this point.
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Installing 3rd party software to make the interface the one you wanted isn't a great option though, especially when Win 8 runs comparatively 'heavy' (like most Wins once the updates begin).
 
terminator363
I know but my problem is that Win 8 looks so much like an mobile operating platform it blurs the lines between desktop and mobile (some tablets use Windows 8 too I think?).
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Yup, Asus transformer is one IRCC.
 
niky
I'm using Pokki.

The point is, though... you shouldn't need to customize the OS to work on a fairly standard computer.

Of course, my main beef with 8 is something that you can retroactively apply to most Windows systems when running on hardware that was out when they were launched...

It's too damn heavy.

I do a lot of intensive graphics work, and I need a system that doesn't use up available resources for fancy graphical effects I don't really need.

But then, that's just me.
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You can turn the graphical effects (or some of) off here.

Control Panel > System and Security > System > Advanced System Settings > In the advanced tab, select Settings underneath Performance. There are loads of options in there, along with generic adjust for best performance/appearance options.
 
Windows 8.1? Blegh. Took a look at that tablet interface, then quickly installed Starshell 8. Too bad Win 7 was 100 bucks extra to the total price of this laptop, I basically got forced to adopt 8.1.

I don't like touchscreens. I got taught to keep my darn fingers off the screen when I was a kid :lol:
 
Azuremen
It makes sense when the majority of the market will be on a tablet type device by the end of the decade. This includes "home" computer setups that will just be a panel and maybe a keyboard. Amusingly, a Comp Sci professor of mine quite likes Windows 8.1 and his standard work environment is about as desktop centric as you can imagine.

MS is playing for the future and took the risk of upsetting some people in the process.
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The future won't be exclusively mobile devices playing Netflix though. I understand that they would want to go after the biggest market, but in the process it seems they forgot about the traditional market. Even if it does shrink in the future, it's still here now. Considering how quickly start menu add ons showed up for Win 8, I don't think it would have taken MS much effort keep some little things for desktop use. Had Win 8 operated and looked exactly like Win 7 in some specified mode, I'd have no problem with it.

phillkillv2
What if Microsoft fixed the problems in the newest versions and added back most of the functionalist feel of W7? Would you even have a problem, because there would basically be the best of both worlds.. which is what is needed to grow mobile device sales; the push for desktop and mobile like applications with a dynamic OS to mend it together. I don't see anything wrong with that, and honestly neither should you.
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If 8 could fool me into thinking it was 7 I'd have no complaints. My complaints amount to dropping all the familiarity of 7 and giving me absolutely nothing (GUI related) in return. If I wanted to I could probably sit down and learn Win 8, but one of the things I hate to see in a product is arbitrary change. I'll stand against an otherwise good product if the manufacturer decides to make pointless alterations every other week. Win 8 was made with mobile/touchscreen devices in mind but it was also sold as an upgrade to Win 7. When it comes to desktops, pretty much every change up front was a step backwards because it was a change that didn't need to be made and/or provides no advantages. This would be instantly remedied by making these changes optional.
 
Noob616
There are countless third party start buttons that you can install for free or under $5 that give you a Start button in Win8. It's about as lame an excuse as the "PS3 has no games" thing at this point.
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Excuse? All my machines are running on W7, they handle all my tasks, games and needs beautifully. If I was to upgrade to W8, it would be just "for the sake of it" and then on top of that, I'd have to install a third-party start menu. You're talking like upgrading was an obligation and people needed to make excuses for some reason. Also PS3 not having any games...?

Yeah, I don't see it.
 
Please!!

- File ACLs for live/outlook accounts.

- Live/outlook account integration with active directory.

- Live/outlook account integration with bitlocker (static SIDs, bro)
 
Coxis
Excuse? All my machines are running on W7, they handle all my tasks, games and needs beautifully. If I was to upgrade to W8, it would be just "for the sake of it" and then on top of that, I'd have to install a third-party start menu. You're talking like upgrading was an obligation and people needed to make excuses for some reason. Also PS3 not having any games...?

Yeah, I don't see it.
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When you write "I would upgrade if it had a start button", what am I supposed to take away from that other than you saying the start button is what's holding you back?
 
You can pin everything you ever had in the Start button in the Start Screen.

So instead of Start, All Programs, etc............ you go Start, swipe up for All Programs, swipe sideways.
 
Noob616
When you write "I would upgrade if it had a start button", what am I supposed to take away from that other than you saying the start button is what's holding you back?
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My statement wasn't absolute like you're trying to make it sound. I said that I might make the switch. Which is exactly how I feel about W9. If the start button makes a come back then I'll consider making the switch. It isn't the only factor in my decision to upgrade.
 
Sureboss
Control Panel > System and Security > System > Advanced System Settings > In the advanced tab, select Settings underneath Performance. There are loads of options in there, along with generic adjust for best performance/appearance options.
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That's EXACTLY one of the things I hate about 8!!! How many levels down into the menus is that screen you need??!!!?!??!

Also the fact that it tries to force you into a Live account when you start up. The link to not integrate with a Live account (i.e. use a plain old user account as Windows has done since 95, at least) is presented in a manner saying "Here be dragons!"
 
wfooshee
That's EXACTLY one of the things I hate about 8!!! How many levels down into the menus is that screen you need??!!!?
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Thats the same process as windows 7 and vista.

Or with windows 8, from the start screen, just type 'performance' and it brings the option up.
 
I get to System by right-clicking Computer on the desktop and picking Properties. Also, I ungroup my Control Panel to unbury my options. I'm not sure either of those step-saving choices in in Win8. If they are, fine.

A lot of what I see in Win 8 reminds me of Office 2007, which was poorly received. The Big Button instead of the traditional File, Edit, etc. menus. That button has not been seen since. Hopefully MS will listen to some constructive criticism in developing Win9 as well.

Personally I think some crazy guy in Redmond (that narrows it down, doesn't it? :) ) was thinking, "Oh, you don't want buttons???? Well, watch THIS!! AHHHH-HAHAHAHAHAHA!"
 
wfooshee
I get to System by right-clicking Computer on the desktop and picking Properties. Also, I ungroup my Control Panel to unbury my options. I'm not sure either of those step-saving choices in in Win8. If they are, fine.
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Windows Key + Pause/Break instantly opens up System Properties, just so you know.

Kind of curious how often you're in the Control Panel if unburying the contained options is a notable time saver...
 
Windows Vista, Seven, 8, 8.1, 9? Nope, buy windows XP instead (which isn't possible anymore).

I'm still using XP and it's still doing what I want it to do. As long as I don't have to upgrade the OS, I won't. :D
 

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