World Hot Hatch Championship - Season Two
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Well I was going to apologise for running out of time to do my races, but hopefully with the extra week i'll find the time to do them.
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WHHC ROUND 2 RESULTS
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Trial Mountain Reverse:
1st Nilloc 3'21.087 10pts
2nd one inch man 3'23.635 8pts
3rd greaterbadass 3'25.659 6pts
4th tricd04 3'27.336 5pts
5th Matej 3'29.888 4pts
6th shotamagee 3'30.887 3pts
7th amkobih 3'31.135 2pts
8th SVX 3'33.671 1pts
Apricot Hill Raceway:
1st greaterbadass 4'39.226 10pts
2nd Nilloc 4'44.135 8pts
3rd one inch man 4'49.751 6pts
4th amkobih 4'51.534 5pts
5th tricd04 4'54.999 4pts
6th SVX 4'55.633 3pts
7th shotamagee 4'56.721 2pts
8th Matej 4'57.273 1pts
Clubman Stage Route 5:
1st greaterbadass 4'58.529 10pts
2nd one inch man 5'01.886 8pts
3rd Nilloc 5'03.108 6pts
4th tricd04 5'07.970 5pts
5th SVX 5'14.346 4pts
6th shotamagee 5'15.004 3pts
7th Matej 5'16.779 2pts
8th amkobih 5'18.258 1pts
Infineon Raceway - Stock Car Course:
1st one inch man 11'01.168 10pts
2nd tricd04 11'02.133 8pts
3rd Nilloc 11'14.426 6pts
4th shotamagee 11'24.471 5pts
5th amkobih 11'25.855 4pts
6th Matej 11'34.878 3pts
7th greaterbadass 15'45.707 2pts
8th SVX DNF
El Capitan 200 miles:
1st one inch man 2:08'51.676 10pts
2nd shotamagee 2:12'51.287 8pts
3rd SVX 2:14'10.123 6pts
4th Nilloc 2:23'13.620 5pts
5th greaterbadass DNF
6th amkobih DNF
7th tricd04 DNF
8th Matej DNFWHHC CURRENT POINTS
one inch man --- 77 pts
tricd04 --- 60 pts
amkobih --- 46 pts
shotamagee --- 43 pts
Nilloc --- 41 pts
greaterbadass --- 39 pts
SVX --- 35 pts
Matej --- 34 pts
tricd04 --- 60 pts
amkobih --- 46 pts
shotamagee --- 43 pts
Nilloc --- 41 pts
greaterbadass --- 39 pts
SVX --- 35 pts
Matej --- 34 pts
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SVX and Matej are now drivers with ability to change their vehicles if they want. Also one inch man and tricd04 are pulling away from the rest of the field so they MUST change their vehicles with something from FF group otherwise I won't count their times. one inch man should pick worse FF car then tricd04.
SVX and Matej are now drivers with ability to change their vehicles if they want. Also one inch man and tricd04 are pulling away from the rest of the field so they MUST change their vehicles with something from FF group otherwise I won't count their times. one inch man should pick worse FF car then tricd04.
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WHHC ROUND 3
RACE SCHEDULE:
Family Cup (AI set to 4)
- Grand Valley Speedway
- Midfield Raceway
Professional Events - Clubman Cup
- Twin Ring Motegi - East Short Course (3 laps)
Extreme Events - Polphony Digital Cup
- Seattle Circuit Reverse (7 laps)
- El Capitan Reverse (6 laps)
You can submit your times until 16 December 2011. Prepare for battle
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I didn't change anything for round 2. So I wouldn't say, that I'm pulling away. It's a steady performance, the others are just getting worse
If an EK Civic Type R is considered a worse car, than an EP one, I'll be taking that one. Although I'm not really prepared to give up the Sprinter...
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I was wondering if it wouldn't be more fair to add ballast to cars as a "prize" for winning instead of going all the way to requiring a switch to FFs? 💡
It might be too late for this series, also I haven't been able to test to see if it makes a significant enough disadvantage in GT4?
It might be too late for this series, also I haven't been able to test to see if it makes a significant enough disadvantage in GT4?
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Before creating this challenge I wanted for all players to drive as many hot hatches as possible, to gather as many experience (by driving different types of vehicles) as possible. That was my primary idea from beginning and thus sticking with the same car idea is not equivalent with my thoughts.
But, FF cars are suffering in GT4 (lack of physics) so driving them might be boring, I totally understand that. It's also never too late to do some changes; this is what I thought since already three players did recommend something ( it might be more than three eventually - needs of most
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Adding ballast might not be good idea, extra weight reduces hot hatches originality and it looks poor - cheap method to ruin your car.
On the other hand, power reduce seems much better decision, I think this is something that keeps vehicles realistic in terms of tuning, in that case one inch man (fastest so far) should choose between two options : whether to swap Trueno for Civic Type-r or to lower Trueno power to range from original (I think 136 with oiling) hp to 200 hp. Same goes for tricd04 - either Honda EP 2004 or lowering R5 power to range 230 to 250 hp.
In that case ^ drivers with low points (SVX, Matej) should stick with their vehicles or swap them for something else.
Please let me know what you think so that I can enforce this method.
But, FF cars are suffering in GT4 (lack of physics) so driving them might be boring, I totally understand that. It's also never too late to do some changes; this is what I thought since already three players did recommend something ( it might be more than three eventually - needs of most
) :Adding ballast might not be good idea, extra weight reduces hot hatches originality and it looks poor - cheap method to ruin your car.
On the other hand, power reduce seems much better decision, I think this is something that keeps vehicles realistic in terms of tuning, in that case one inch man (fastest so far) should choose between two options : whether to swap Trueno for Civic Type-r or to lower Trueno power to range from original (I think 136 with oiling) hp to 200 hp. Same goes for tricd04 - either Honda EP 2004 or lowering R5 power to range 230 to 250 hp.
In that case ^ drivers with low points (SVX, Matej) should stick with their vehicles or swap them for something else.
Please let me know what you think so that I can enforce this method.
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Before creating this challenge I wanted for all players to drive as many hot hatches as possible, to gather as many experience (by driving different types of vehicles) as possible. That was my primary idea from beginning and thus sticking with the same car idea is not equivalent with my thoughts.
But, FF cars are suffering in GT4 (lack of physics) so driving them might be boring, I totally understand that. It's also never too late to do some changes; this is what I thought since already three players did recommend something ( it might be more than three eventually - needs of most
If you wanted us to change cars more often, you should have said so in the opening post, I'm sure most of us wouldn't have minded (EDIT: rule no2 in the OP says only pick one car) but;
Unfortunatly about 85% of the hatches are FF's, which are ok (still not as quick as a decent FR car though) with stock power, but when you boost them up to 250 - 300HP, they mostly become wheel spinning, front tyre devouring, understeering messes. So that does limit the number of competitive options.
I'm not quite sure how ballast ruins the look of your car, but ignoring that point;
I'd say that's a pretty good comprimise, the top placed player gets their HP cut down to max 200 and second gets 250HP as their maximum, if they want to keep using their current car for the next week.
PS. I've just spent about approx 100K on my Corolla (plus time invested working on setup) so I would have been happy to use it for quite some time. So maybe you need to add a rule where, you can only use one car for a certain number of rounds.
I'd say you need to decide if you really want us to use the FF's or not, because currently theres really no incentive to do so. So either do some FF only rounds, or try to find a way (tyres/HP limits possibly) to make them competitive against the FR/MR's. Otherwise this will probably become a FR/MR hot hatch competition. (If it wasn't already)
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look with a different meaning. Imagine Trueno with extra 200 kg - that's about 1055 kg. This would ruin car originality - something that neither Trueno would accept. I still think this is bad idea, and I will try not to enforce this.
With the rest I totally agree shotamagee, this became FR/MR competition and I wanted to avoid this if possible. But I want for challenge to be without tension, so I would like to hear opinion from tricd04 and one inch man (since they have highest points) whether they want to swap their vehicles for FF (in that case I will create another rule that requires FF consuming after you start pulling away from the rest of field) or lower horsepower on their current cars (in that case this would create a rule where top drivers must lower hp of their vehicles while keeping what they drive or they can [not necessarily] choose FF car to avoid 'same drivetrain' complex).
Thanks for pointing everything out shotamagee
, although I don't understand Corolla part; which Corolla and why ? But we'll get to this as soon as I solve problem above.
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I'll lower the horsepower of my Sprinter. Buying parts for another car wouldn't be a problem. But finding a good setup for the Civic could be, as I avoid driving FF cars in GT4 and don't really want to learn how to set them up.
And a question, what about tuner cars? There should be a Spoon Civic Type R. Would that be eligible?
And a question, what about tuner cars? There should be a Spoon Civic Type R. Would that be eligible?
