Worst F1 driver?

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Now, had Michael muscled Hill over somewhere on the Jones Straight, and not at the slowest corner of the track (which he did), I would think he was a dangerous driver to try that trick.

We'll never know, of course, but I don't think Schumacher had driving into Hill on that corner in mind until he crashed into the wall exiting the previous turn. The fact it happened to be the slowest corner on the track may well have been coincidental.

This is the Silverstone incident:



So steward-team communication wasn't exactly a new problem in Fuji 2007.
 
I know there's a lot of Schumacher-hate out there, but I kind of felt the 1994 title was deserved despite what happened in the last race. The FIA banned him from two races, and disqualified him from a second place in the British GP, which artificially set the stage for a close championship finish. Effectively, 6 points were taken from him in the British GP, and due to exclusion from the Italian and Portuguese Grands Prix: Even if Hill won both races, let's say 2nd at Italy and 3rd at Portugal (since Coulthard ran right behind Hill all race long), that means the infamous showdown at Adelaide never would have occurred.

The cause of all this was maneuvering from 2nd place on the grid to 1st place, during a corner or two of the warm-up/formation lap: A minor and meaningless offense. I felt that after the events of several driver injuries and deaths in the sport, this was nothing more than crap, and Schumacher knew that they could penalize him for just about anything...Except for crashing into someone. Maybe it was the rebellious 20-year-old in me at the time, but I still feel he gave a pretty good middle finger to the FIA rather than to Damon Hill, who was really more of an innocent bystander in the game. Now, had Michael muscled Hill over somewhere on the Jones Straight, and not at the slowest corner of the track (which he did), I would think he was a dangerous driver to try that trick.

Yes, Michael Schumacher went on to do a couple of things that weren't good for the sport, and I could create an entire list. But we can not retroactively dissect the 1994 World Championship by counting transgressions that would occur in the future. Simply put, the punishment at the '94 Brazilian GP was far stricter than any given by the FIA at the time, for an action that had absolutely nothing to do with the results nor sporting activities on the track, and was it was not a gesture that harmed the integrity of the sport nor governing body in any way.

We can argue the legality of the Benetton B194 until the cows come home, but the fact is if the FIA wanted to ban the team or the cars, they could have, as they had done to Tyrrell in 1984. Even McLaren was given an end-of-year slap on the wrist for their launch control shenanigans at the end of 1994 (of course, their car wasn't that competitive that year, anyhow), and every team finds a way to exploit loopholes. Some get caught, some do not.

While I agree that Schumacher certainly showed how good he was from the fact he managed to still win after incuring penalties earlier in the season, I don't think it could ever be justified that he won it fairly. Regardless of whether the previous penalties were unfair and Hill's lucky points score, Schumacher did not finish that Championship in a fair manner.
Its been debated long and hard before, so I won't start it all over again, but I will say I cannot see how Schumacher even thought that move would stick, it was clearly very desperate. Though, equally, Hill perhaps shouldn't have been so eager to jump through the gap, he probably didn't think Schumacher would try and ram him.

It was bad rulings from the FIA combined with a very controversial end (not to mention the several deaths as well during the year) that made this championship year not a good one at all.
 
I don't see how Ide got what he got. He's a Formula Nippon champion, and not to mention Aguri was the one of the worst teams in the field anyways. At least all the other drivers where in top teams.

Not to mention he didn't speak a word of English to his otherwise English team and didn't get much testing time in the car.....however....he really didn't show much skill when he had the chance, and the FIA revoked his super license, thats not something that happens too often.
I'll agree that perhaps he could have done more with a better car (and if he learnt English!), but we'll never know and looking at his limited track time he didn't look like he was going to be up to much.
 
Yeah, I think most of Ide's experience came from racing in SuperGT. A Formula Nippon champion he might have been, but I don't think he raced in GP2 or really had any experience in other single-seat formulas. I know it's not un-heard of for driver to be promoted from other leagues - IndyCar being the most obvious example - but Ide struck me as being only in the sport so that Super Aguri could be the Japenese All-Stars by having two drivers from the Land of the Rising Sun.
 
I've been up for far too long at the moment, the only driver coming to mind right now is Scott Speed.

@ whoever mentioned Andrea de Cesaris - while I can appreciate being nicknamed de Crasheris and holding the unofficial record for most starts without a win, I think the second bit there proves he can't be F1's worst ever driver. You don't start 208 (iirc) Formula One races by accident, you don't convince a team boss 208 times you're worthy of a race seat if you don't have at least a decent amount of talent. I don't think it's fair to mention Perry McCarthy either, and I would assume (or at least hope) anyone who knows the story of Andrea Moda would agree.

Incidentally, is this thread meant to debate the worst driver to ever step foot in an F1 car, or the worst driver of an F1 car? Jan Magnussen's (as an example) F1 career was hardly impressive but look at his career in sports cars?
 
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Ahhh Andrea Moda brilliant driver (Roberto Moreno) but they gave half assed attempts to enter the other car, even going as far in their last race to knowingly used a flexing steering arm at spa off all places.

As for worst driver Enrico Bertaggia with a best result of......11th......in pre-qualfiying
though to be fair he was driving hopeless cars (Coloni and Andera Moda)
 
I don't think it's fair to mention Perry McCarthy either, and I would assume (or at least hope) anyone who knows the story of Andrea Moda would agree.

Incidentally, is this thread meant to debate the worst driver to ever step foot in an F1 car, or the worst driver of an F1 car? Jan Magnussen's (as an example) F1 career was hardly impressive but look at his career in sports cars?

Both kinds of drivers, but generally the "worst" are usually the ones who are highly-rated in other series and so are expected to be good drivers but turn out to be worth nothing when it comes to the highest step of open wheel motorsport.
Magnussen didn't do as badly as say Délétraz who is also highly rated in sports cars. But yeah, not exactly the finest example of an F1 driver, completely outshined by Barrichello.

Just read up on Moda, jeez :odd:

I highly recommend picking up Perry McCarthy's autobiography (Flat Out, Flat Broke) its a very fun read even for people who don't like F1 particularly.

I don't. His limited time in F1 doesn't allow a proper assessment of his talent level. Furthermore, he didn't do that bad in a season in a half. Especially with the STR in 2006.

I agree that he wasn't "the worst" but he definitely wasn't anything special. He never proved he deserved that seat, just proved he didn't.
 
I agree that he wasn't "the worst" but he definitely wasn't anything special. He never proved he deserved that seat, just proved he didn't.

Indeed. I admit he probably wanted out of that seat and onto porcelain with his bowel syndrome. That must've been utterily horrible driving an F1 car with a raw [fill in the blank].
 
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