WRC 3 - 2012 (Milestone games)

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oqvist
btw has anyone done the pierre leroy challenge. the guy to beat in the monte carlo section on road to glory? I can´t seem to do that my car starts to roll backwards during countdown and never get control over the car?
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Thanks for not helping guys!

Just kidding I hook up my 360 gamepad and it allowed me to compete the challenge. So I had to fight for it to once since controls are not at all as super tight as the wheel ones. All previous head to head challenges has been a piece of cake.

btw in the Xbox 360 demo you had an option for steering. Normal and then simulation which they recommended for wheel users. there is no such settings to choose from on the PC side? Does anyone here been able to compare the controls on both PC and consoles? How do they differ? Run G27 so couldn´t use it for the 360 demo.
 
I can´t for my life understand why people drive in that view and why it´s the default in general.

There is more then Pierre Leroy stage that bugg out on the wheel. Same on Greece now and this is damn hard. Gamepad awkwardness and this sand which mean you have no idea where you go if you arent staying more then 3 seconds behind. And you start 3 seconds down as well.
 
oqvist
I can´t for my life understand why people drive in that view and why it´s the default in general.

There is more then Pierre Leroy stage that bugg out on the wheel. Same on Greece now and this is damn hard. Gamepad awkwardness and this sand which mean you have no idea where you go if you arent staying more then 3 seconds behind. And you start 3 seconds down as well.
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I posted earlier in the thread about this, it's on the last 3 head to heads. You're lucky you can do them at all, on my PS3 it's not possible to do them.
 
Wow! It´s always amazing when they manage to ship games with such blatant bugs. You can´t run them with gamepad on the PS3? I am up to 420 stars now and really has to start making them to get further. I do believe I generally loose at least an extra second in the start. Dunno if I do wrong or if the AI cheat from the starting line :)
 
Yeah I think it's amazing a game can be released with so many bugs, but it's still a good game, just hope they will fix it. I don't have my wheel set up, so I'm only using the pad and I can't do the last 3 stages. If you practice with the pad you should be ok, I manage to do well with the pad in this game.
 
Got to I am very impressed with WRC3 so far, great feeling through the wheel and the stages are like night and day compared to 2. It's a proper rally game now.
 
oqvist
I am quite fine with stock but will test. It would be cool with one without the wheel
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You can still see the top of wheel and no hands.

Im hoping they add mods such as:

FOV +/-
Turn steering wheel on/off
Triple screen support
Multiple controller support for up to 5 devices
360 degree wheel rotation or higher
 
I really like the game, BUT

-no triples
-no tactile feedback / simvibe support
-no proper FFB

Is what hold this good game off from being awesom
 
HoiHman
I really like the game, BUT

-no triples
-no tactile feedback / simvibe support
-no proper FFB

Is what hold this good game off from being awesom
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Myself and many others would agree, it baffles me why developers leave out such vital options
 
CLIFFO_83
Myself and many others would agree, it baffles me why developers leave out such vital options
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Because despite being possibly the largest developer in Italy, they're still relatively small. And after they get reviews like the 5/10 from IGN, they probably will receive less money publishers and such. This results in less staff, and a game with less features. They then have to take out the features which they believe are the least important to the average player (console with DS3 or XBox controller).

So blame IGN basically :(
 
jcm
Because despite being possibly the largest developer in Italy, they're still relatively small. And after they get reviews like the 5/10 from IGN, they probably will receive less money publishers and such. This results in less staff, and a game with less features. They then have to take out the features which they believe are the least important to the average player (console with DS3 or XBox controller).

So blame IGN basically :(
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Ign must have used some noob who does not know sim racing, I'm loving the game. It feels fantastic and I urge anyone one not to judge it off the demo because its a lot better than the demo.
 
jcm
Because despite being possibly the largest developer in Italy, they're still relatively small. And after they get reviews like the 5/10 from IGN, they probably will receive less money publishers and such. This results in less staff, and a game with less features. They then have to take out the features which they believe are the least important to the average player (console with DS3 or XBox controller).

So blame IGN basically :(
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So a review after the game is made is the reason stuff was left out during development?
Your scenario would make sense if you were talking about the next game being stifled by poor reviews of the current game.
 
Caz
So a review after the game is made is the reason stuff was left out during development?
Your scenario would make sense if you were talking about the next game being stifled by poor reviews of the current game.
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He may actually be on about WRC 2's review by IGN as that got 5.5/10.

So this game (WRC 3) may have stuff left out due to that poor review.
 
Matty
He may actually be on about WRC 2's review by IGN as that got 5.5/10.

So this game (WRC 3) may have stuff left out due to that poor review.
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I'd say it's that and WRC 2's failure to make a big enough splash in the PC sim racing community, which is why I'd recommend WRC 3 to anyone who likes RBR; not because it's as good as that (because it's not, but it's close) but because it may make the powers that be notice what we want is a proper modern fully-featured rally sim. If WRC 3 PC outsells the consoles they might see the financial benefit in upping their game (pun only somewhat intended).

Edit: actually I'd go as far as to say it's nothing to do with IGN, PC sim racers don't read their reviews of sims, do they? IGN's review had no bearing on our opinion of WRC 3. What we need is the reviews that people with wheels, triple monitor setups and tactile setups read to give it high marks and favourable word of mouth in the community. If IGN had given it 9 out of 10 then maybe it would shift more console copies, which would actually do more harm to our hopes of having PC-specific options in WRC 4. I mean look at Call of Duty; every release gets high marks but the game hasn't significantly changed in the tech department since 2007.
 
I hope the developers kept laughing while reading that IGN review, because the negative points they gave it is what makes it a good game, and of course other things
 
There is a lot of IGN reviews. In some way you can´t argue. If you are more about the presentation it won´t impress. If you also go about it as a hardcore simulator I wouldn´t say it´s remotely close to Richard Burns Rally on a simulation level. I at least hope that is why so many reviewers dislike the driving model. I think the cars are very easy to understand and control.

WRC 3 does have a simplified driving model which to me work brilliantly as a cross between not punishing you like hell for being sloppy or flooring thd pedal RBR style or getting totally ridiculous regarding autobahn wide roads and insane grip levels.
 
oqvist
There is a lot of IGN reviews. In some way you can´t argue. If you are more about the presentation it won´t impress. If you also go about it as a hardcore simulator I wouldn´t say it´s remotely close to Richard Burns Rally on a simulation level. I at least hope that is why so many reviewers dislike the driving model. I think the cars are very easy to understand and control.

WRC 3 does have a simplified driving model which to me work brilliantly as a cross between not punishing you like hell for being sloppy or flooring thd pedal RBR style or getting totally ridiculous regarding autobahn wide roads and insane grip levels.
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Agreed totally, it will punish you if you go wrong but it's not impossible.

Group B cars in the WRC series are probably best simulation of a Group B I have driven in any game.
 
Caz
So a review after the game is made is the reason stuff was left out during development?
Your scenario would make sense if you were talking about the next game being stifled by poor reviews of the current game.
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I'm pretty sure WRC 2 got a 5.5 . It's kind of an endless cycle. WRC 2s bad reviews caused WRC 3 to be worse then it could've been, and now WRC 3s bad reviews will cause WRC 4 to be worse then it should be. It's quite sad really.

I probably should've put the WRC 2 score in my post, but that seems to basically be how it works. :(

Also, I am very frustrated with Amazon.co.uk! They said it'd ship in 5-7 business days. 8 business days have passed, still the game hasn't arrived. Hopefully the 9th business day will be the lucky one :)

EDIT: Just to be clear, it's not that the IGN review directly affects the game. It affects casual gamers who might've gotten it and instead didn't due to the review. This means less money for the game designers, and also causes the developers to be less likely to invest money in the game themselves. A very sad situation.
 
Got my copy from Amazon UK today. First impressions:

-that menu music is terrrrrrrrible. Muted that first.
-overall I definitely get a "simplified" vibe. Simple menu, no R&D, staff management, sponsor negotiations, etc.
-plays pretty nice though. Like the handling, so far, and to me there seems to be more of a discernible difference in surface vs. previous games.
-wish road to glory wasn't by region. What I liked about 1 and 2 was the diffrence in locations each season. I'm already burnt out on Iberian area lol

Questions:
-What is the difference between WRC Experience and Free Run in Road to Glory? It would seem to me that WRC Experience should just be "arcade mode" but it doesn't have all the cars, that I can find? Free Run does, but is restricted by what I have unlocked? Either I'm dumber than a bag of rocks and can't figure it out or someone made a really dumb decision in that game design (imo)

-Is there a way to see how many stages are in a rally in road to glory? Or do you just find out when you start it?

I thought I had another question but can't remember now. :dunce:
 
Matty
He may actually be on about WRC 2's review by IGN as that got 5.5/10.

So this game (WRC 3) may have stuff left out due to that poor review.
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I never take any of IGN's reviews on racing sims seriously. Nobody, and I mean nobody there, has a clue about racing sims as far as I can see.
 
DwightSchrute12
Questions:
-What is the difference between WRC Experience and Free Run in Road to Glory? It would seem to me that WRC Experience should just be "arcade mode" but it doesn't have all the cars, that I can find? Free Run does, but is restricted by what I have unlocked? Either I'm dumber than a bag of rocks and can't figure it out or someone made a really dumb decision in that game design (imo)

-Is there a way to see how many stages are in a rally in road to glory? Or do you just find out when you start it?

I thought I had another question but can't remember now. :dunce:
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I think there are 3 stage in a rally in R2G.

Is there a free run mode in R2G? I have to find that.

Agree with you on the music, horrible.

But at least the racing feels very good.

Dutch www.insidegamer.nl site gave it a 5+. Shame on the reviewer. He does not know anything.
 
IGN takes money for good reviews, thats nothing new. And Milestone didn't pay them.

Good thing they released Demo for both ps3 and x360 so people could try it and decide for them selfs rather believe some stupid review which is strongly hurtful.
 

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