WTC 600 World Touring Car 600

[TheNormsk]

Reviving an old post. I redoing all of the menus after starting a new account for PSVR2. I'm also doing everything on hard setting this time round. Up to the WTC 600 everything has been pretty easy so far but this one is stumping me. RBR in the rain, sometimes torrential and sometimes light I am finding surprisingly hard. I've yet to win it. I don't want to cheat by going to normal or, dare I say it, easy level so I'm seeking hints.

A lot has changed with physics since this post was last discussed now that we are on 1.50. The AI still seems to be massively advantaged here. They accelerate faster than my cars and seemingly defy wet weather rules and still corner as if on velco. The only way to pass is to out brake them, which they continue to be terrible at. My best place so far is 2nd.

What cars should I be looking at that actually has the acceleration to keep up with the AI on hard and can still be controlled in full wet weather?

 

[rheinaoi]

Reviving an old post. I redoing all of the menus after starting a new account for PSVR2. I'm also doing everything on hard setting this time round. Up to the WTC 600 everything has been pretty easy so far but this one is stumping me. RBR in the rain, sometimes torrential and sometimes light I am finding surprisingly hard. I've yet to win it. I don't want to cheat by going to normal or, dare I say it, easy level so I'm seeking hints.

A lot has changed with physics since this post was last discussed now that we are on 1.50. The AI still seems to be massively advantaged here. They accelerate faster than my cars and seemingly defy wet weather rules and still corner as if on velco. The only way to pass is to out brake them, which they continue to be terrible at. My best place so far is 2nd.

What cars should I be looking at that actually has the acceleration to keep up with the AI on hard and can still be controlled in full wet weather?

It's been a while since I've raced here. I'd need to give this a look. These are my assumptions:

The PP system still favors engine swapped cars. Regardless, you'll need to strategically add ballast to your cars (and position it properly) to game the PP system. Typically, I add 140~170kg. IMO, Racing Brakes are almost never worth the PP penalty in this class.

- Praiano's Mustang Boss can deliver maximum punishment

PRAIANO'S TUNES : SETTINGS FOR GT7

Ford Mustang Boss 429 '69 - 600PP - Sport Soft Tires - Tokyo rain -1.49 Wide body car. Rims size 15" - Rim Width Wide - Offset Wide Front B - Rear St - Wing Custom This is one of the best option for this Tokyo rain event. I can lap 2:02 with it but it's better cruising at 2:03 high 2:04 low...

www.gtplanet.net

• The V8 swapped Miata WILL overpower everyone, and has surprisingly good handling
• The Group C swapped GT-Rs (R32-R34) should be viable
• The Subaru Impreza Rally Car has MASSIVE acceleration with the low RPM turbo. Wonky handling though
• The Jaguar XJ220 is VERY quick stock and arguably doesn't need suspension upgrades
• The Aston Martin VGT may still be brokenly quick. Not sure if it has been nerfed. Note: you must short shift this car

I assume RBR is a power track, so you'll need a tune that would do well at the Tokyo 600pp grind race. Alternatively, you can try running an Intermediate Tire build for the whole race - I don't remember if those races had noticeable tire wear. The wet will be less annoying, but you'll be down on power.

 

[TheNormsk]

It's been a while since I've raced here. I'd need to give this a look. These are my assumptions:

The PP system still favors engine swapped cars. Regardless, you'll need to strategically add ballast to your cars (and position it properly) to game the PP system. Typically, I add 140~170kg. IMO, Racing Brakes are almost never worth the PP penalty in this class.

- Praiano's Mustang Boss can deliver maximum punishment

PRAIANO'S TUNES : SETTINGS FOR GT7

Ford Mustang Boss 429 '69 - 600PP - Sport Soft Tires - Tokyo rain -1.49 Wide body car. Rims size 15" - Rim Width Wide - Offset Wide Front B - Rear St - Wing Custom This is one of the best option for this Tokyo rain event. I can lap 2:02 with it but it's better cruising at 2:03 high 2:04 low...

www.gtplanet.net

• The V8 swapped Miata WILL overpower everyone, and has surprisingly good handling
• The Group C swapped GT-Rs (R32-R34) should be viable
• The Subaru Impreza Rally Car has MASSIVE acceleration with the low RPM turbo. Wonky handling though
• The Jaguar XJ220 is VERY quick stock and arguably doesn't need suspension upgrades
• The Aston Martin VGT may still be brokenly quick. Not sure if it has been nerfed. Note: you must short shift this car

I assume RBR is a power track, so you'll need a tune that would do well at the Tokyo 600pp grind race. Alternatively, you can try running an Intermediate Tire build for the whole race - I don't remember if those races had noticeable tire wear. The wet will be less annoying, but you'll be down on power.

Thank you. That Mustang is truly the boss.

It took a few tries to figure out how to drive it with out doing 180s in the wet but once I did it had the grunt I needed.

It also works surprisingly well at Suzuka and Dragon Trail.

 

[B80]

Thank you. That Mustang is truly the boss.

It took a few tries to figure out how to drive it with out doing 180s in the wet but once I did it had the grunt I needed.

It also works surprisingly well at Suzuka and Dragon Trail.

Yeah that mustang is savage.
I used tune from praiano. It was tge only car I could get first place on road atlanta weekly race a couple of weeks ago... on Hard.

 

[adam thompson]

Great post did this in the Elantra N line added lol horrible came 5th overall terrible in the wet red bull ring a yeah not fun. Now I’m trying to think what I used to gold this event. I am talking about WTC 600 championship under the bottom of world circuits. Red bull ring rain, Suzuka dry and dragon trail dry.

Any suggestions what to use? Thanks 😵‍💫 🤪

 

[kartrcr08]

Any suggestions what to use? Thanks 😵‍💫 🤪

The newer Group B rally cars, I prefer the mid engines, but they all destroy at 600pp. No real tuning needed, stock suspension settings just lower the ride height and racing transmission for taller gearing. Inters for RBR and RH or SS for Suzuka and Dragon, easy peasy.

 

[ShonnDaylee]

With the right tune the Elantra N is phenomenal in the WTC600 events. Mine has around 440hp, 2700lbs, on Sport Mediums. It's a joy to drive. You just have to be careful to not over-lower the car (rubs quite a bit causing understeer). Easily in the top 5 best FWD vehicles in the game IMHO.

 

[nostradavor2]

I just finished this in stock e92 m3..

 

[engrmariano]

Golf mk vii swapped

 

[engrmariano]

Golf mk i swapped

 

[luisbep779]

Good evening, or whatever is appropriate when you read this.

World Touring Car 600 on Tokyo Expressway - East Clockwise is a complicated race, but with the right car and setup it can be easy, and YouTube is full of guides, but I haven't seen this one yet.

$20,000,000 car. The 1955 Mercedes-Benz W 196 R. Would you have guessed?

Well, it's a strange combination, but it works. In addition to the car, you need Hard Sports Tires, a Fully Customizable Control Unit, Ballast, a Power Limiter, Customizable Transmission: Competition, and a Low-Revolution Turbocharger.

Okay, configuration complete, now for the Race Strategy. Very simple: don't crash, and that's it.

You don't have to worry about fuel, because it's as if it doesn't use any. You start with fuel for 11-13 laps and end up with 6.4 (at least for me).

You have to get used to braking a little earlier, especially after a straight, i.e., the first and last corners, and controlling drifting in the rest of the corners.

By lap 7, we are in the lead because the rest have had to stop, but we don't need to.

It's slower than the rest in the middle section of curves, but a rocket on the straights, reaching 305 with ease, with slightly more slipstream.

OK, it's true that it's not the best setup for this race, but it's better than having the car sitting there gathering virtual dust in our garage... and also for a change of pace every now and then... It's not bad.


The advantage of the car for me is its fuel consumption, which is ridiculous even with a turbo. It also manages the tires well, and more importantly, it's fun to drive. It costs 20 million, but the car is necessary for Extra Menu No. 46, so it's better to use it, right?


Perhaps, over time, I will adjust the setup a little so that it runs better on the "Expressway." If that happens, I will let you know, or maybe someone else will contribute their two cents...

 

[engrmariano]

Good evening, or whatever is appropriate when you read this.

World Touring Car 600 on Tokyo Expressway - East Clockwise is a complicated race, but with the right car and setup it can be easy, and YouTube is full of guides, but I haven't seen this one yet.


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$20,000,000 car. The 1955 Mercedes-Benz W 196 R. Would you have guessed?

Well, it's a strange combination, but it works. In addition to the car, you need Hard Sports Tires, a Fully Customizable Control Unit, Ballast, a Power Limiter, Customizable Transmission: Competition, and a Low-Revolution Turbocharger.


View attachment 1486012

Okay, configuration complete, now for the Race Strategy. Very simple: don't crash, and that's it.

You don't have to worry about fuel, because it's as if it doesn't use any. You start with fuel for 11-13 laps and end up with 6.4 (at least for me).

You have to get used to braking a little earlier, especially after a straight, i.e., the first and last corners, and controlling drifting in the rest of the corners.

View attachment 1486014

By lap 7, we are in the lead because the rest have had to stop, but we don't need to.

It's slower than the rest in the middle section of curves, but a rocket on the straights, reaching 305 with ease, with slightly more slipstream.

View attachment 1486015

OK, it's true that it's not the best setup for this race, but it's better than having the car sitting there gathering virtual dust in our garage... and also for a change of pace every now and then... It's not bad.


The advantage of the car for me is its fuel consumption, which is ridiculous even with a turbo. It also manages the tires well, and more importantly, it's fun to drive. It costs 20 million, but the car is necessary for Extra Menu No. 46, so it's better to use it, right?


Perhaps, over time, I will adjust the setup a little so that it runs better on the "Expressway." If that happens, I will let you know, or maybe someone else will contribute their two cents...

many did this when it 1st came out, but it's not the fastest that's why you wont see very often.

 

[luisbep779]

many did this when it 1st came out, but it's not the fastest that's why you wont see very often.

Well, I didn't know that. I might use it sometime, just for a change.
Thanks for your reply.

 

[jrbabbitt]

Good evening, or whatever is appropriate when you read this.

World Touring Car 600 on Tokyo Expressway - East Clockwise is a complicated race, but with the right car and setup it can be easy, and YouTube is full of guides, but I haven't seen this one yet.


View attachment 1486013

$20,000,000 car. The 1955 Mercedes-Benz W 196 R. Would you have guessed?

Well, it's a strange combination, but it works. In addition to the car, you need Hard Sports Tires, a Fully Customizable Control Unit, Ballast, a Power Limiter, Customizable Transmission: Competition, and a Low-Revolution Turbocharger.


View attachment 1486012

Okay, configuration complete, now for the Race Strategy. Very simple: don't crash, and that's it.

You don't have to worry about fuel, because it's as if it doesn't use any. You start with fuel for 11-13 laps and end up with 6.4 (at least for me).

You have to get used to braking a little earlier, especially after a straight, i.e., the first and last corners, and controlling drifting in the rest of the corners.

View attachment 1486014

By lap 7, we are in the lead because the rest have had to stop, but we don't need to.

It's slower than the rest in the middle section of curves, but a rocket on the straights, reaching 305 with ease, with slightly more slipstream.

View attachment 1486015

OK, it's true that it's not the best setup for this race, but it's better than having the car sitting there gathering virtual dust in our garage... and also for a change of pace every now and then... It's not bad.


The advantage of the car for me is its fuel consumption, which is ridiculous even with a turbo. It also manages the tires well, and more importantly, it's fun to drive. It costs 20 million, but the car is necessary for Extra Menu No. 46, so it's better to use it, right?


Perhaps, over time, I will adjust the setup a little so that it runs better on the "Expressway." If that happens, I will let you know, or maybe someone else will contribute their two cents...

Wall riding?

 

[luisbep779]

Wall riding?

No, just drive without crashing into anything for the Clean Race Bonus.

 

[jrbabbitt]

No, just drive without crashing into anything for the Clean Race Bonus.

Ok some tunes posted here to win this wall riding is a requirement, I dislike doing that, its not right and trashes the car

 

[luisbep779]

Yeah, it's pretty lame to do that, and the car gets wrecked. I've only tried it at Daytona using the AFK method, and you don't gain much...

Ok some tunes posted here to win this wall riding is a requirement, I dislike doing that, its not right and trashes the car

 

[ShonnDaylee]

I've only tried it at Daytona using the AFK method, and you don't gain much...

In that case (Daytona AFK grind) what you are gaining is not having to be there for it. It's completely irrelevant whether it gains you any speed. In high speed corners it's just going to add friction and slow you down.

In the case of Tokyo, (and the first few small/medium corners) it actually DOES gain you speed, as you do not have to slow down for the corner, and any loss of speed from friction is minimized by the extra speed going into the corner (and the short time spent IN the corner), which is why so many people utilize the method to cheat this particular event. That being said... "Wall Riding" is certainly frowned upon, as it should be.

 

[nostradavor2]

Ok some tunes posted here to win this wall riding is a requirement, I dislike doing that, its not right and trashes the car

try lancia delta rally car which is now in legendary dealership for only 300k.. it wins really easily and it's really controllable so you can quite easily get crb

 

[jrbabbitt]

try lancia delta rally car which is now in legendary dealership for only 300k.. it wins really easily and it's really controllable so you can quite easily get crb

Wowzers

 

[jrbabbitt]

try lancia delta rally car which is now in legendary dealership for only 300k.. it wins really easily and it's really controllable so you can quite easily get crb

Really? How ? Best I could do twice was 11th...

 

[nostradavor2]

View attachment 1488335Really? How ? Best I could do twice was 11th...

I used this setup.. Just tweaked it little bit for my style but its 90% like thjs

 

[IngWeltschmer]

Good evening, or whatever is appropriate when you read this.

World Touring Car 600 on Tokyo Expressway - East Clockwise is a complicated race, but with the right car and setup it can be easy, and YouTube is full of guides, but I haven't seen this one yet.


View attachment 1486013

$20,000,000 car. The 1955 Mercedes-Benz W 196 R. Would you have guessed?

Well, it's a strange combination, but it works. In addition to the car, you need Hard Sports Tires, a Fully Customizable Control Unit, Ballast, a Power Limiter, Customizable Transmission: Competition, and a Low-Revolution Turbocharger.


View attachment 1486012

Okay, configuration complete, now for the Race Strategy. Very simple: don't crash, and that's it.

You don't have to worry about fuel, because it's as if it doesn't use any. You start with fuel for 11-13 laps and end up with 6.4 (at least for me).

You have to get used to braking a little earlier, especially after a straight, i.e., the first and last corners, and controlling drifting in the rest of the corners.

View attachment 1486014

By lap 7, we are in the lead because the rest have had to stop, but we don't need to.

It's slower than the rest in the middle section of curves, but a rocket on the straights, reaching 305 with ease, with slightly more slipstream.

View attachment 1486015

OK, it's true that it's not the best setup for this race, but it's better than having the car sitting there gathering virtual dust in our garage... and also for a change of pace every now and then... It's not bad.


The advantage of the car for me is its fuel consumption, which is ridiculous even with a turbo. It also manages the tires well, and more importantly, it's fun to drive. It costs 20 million, but the car is necessary for Extra Menu No. 46, so it's better to use it, right?


Perhaps, over time, I will adjust the setup a little so that it runs better on the "Expressway." If that happens, I will let you know, or maybe someone else will contribute their two cents...

Are the suspensions stock? I've tried messing a bit with them, plus increasing initial torque in the LSD to avoid snapping in the trench section, but it is extremely oversteery due to the lack of downforce to the rear

 

[nostradavor2]

View attachment 1488335Really? How ? Best I could do twice was 11th...

I was just revisiting this and remembered your comment, if you're going to ever try it again, try this tune and toy with fuel maps.. This is 100% my favorite car (I set difficulty to hard also).. it can easily do whole race without pit stops too .. Honestly also on fuel map 2 is not much slower than 1, it only takes to run on 4 to notice very big difference in stable lap times .. Only thing I don't like that front tires goes much faster than rear, Idk if changing ratio from 50:50 to something like 40:60 would help... also on hard I don't get why but it's easier to make everything cleaner (and I drove really not that good)..