X1 Prototype- WOW!

But then there are systems that allow you to alter suspension settings on the fly.
I just have a feeling this wasn't considered an important project by Adrien.
 
But then there are systems that allow you to alter suspension settings on the fly.
I just have a feeling this wasn't considered an important project by Adrien.

Don't get me wrong, my intention is not to go harsh on you, bI am just using your post as an example, thus my apoligises.

First we had amateur-programmers who think they know better that preofessional programmers that are among the best in the world.

Than we had amateur-game-designers who think they know better than people who have brought 58 million+ of games to date at the worldwide market.

Than we had amateur-bussines-managers who think they know better than people that are played 7-digit-per-year in order to manage projects.

And now we have amateur-constructors who think they know better than man who is non-arguably the best constructor in the world.

Thank you GTPlanet, the level of hillariousness is getting higher with every day :lol:
 
Don't get me wrong, my intention is not to go harsh on you, bI am just using your post as an example, thus my apoligises.

First we had amateur-programmers who think they know better that preofessional programmers that are among the best in the world.

Than we had amateur-game-designers who think they know better than people who have brought 58 million+ of games to date at the worldwide market.

Than we had amateur-bussines-managers who think they know better than people that are played 7-digit-per-year in order to manage projects.

And now we have amateur-constructors who think they know better than man who is non-arguably the best constructor in the world.

Thank you GTPlanet, the level of hillariousness is getting higher with every day :lol:
Ok true I have no degree in the subject (yet) but then at the end i did say that was MY TAKE on things and not 100% accurate so your joke has failed but I do agree that some people think they know everything.
BTW am ithe only person to think this car is beautiful?
 
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I just have a feeling this wasn't considered an important project by Adrien.

Well it's not going to be as important as the F1 side of things, but the man's an engineer, and probably somewhat of a perfectionist, he's going to put a lot of his expertise into things.

If he didn't care, he'd have either a) just not done it... or b) just put a bigger engine in an F1 car (something along those lines...)

His job is to design cars that go as fast as possible within a set of rules, it must be interesting to him and rewarding to be able to have the rules taken away...

Also, as amar said, although of course we don't know a great deal about you, and you were indeed saying it's just your take, which you're entitled to, I don't think there are many people in the world that are in a position to question Adrian's decisions.

This is what he does, and has done for years, at the highest possible level. Every other F1 team has large teams of the best people they can find with, in some cases, huge budgets and resources, and they can't match Adrian's design.

You simply couldn't comprehend what his thought processes were because you've not been exposed to the wealth of first hand experience and sheer equipment he has access to. It's no reflection on you, just, the man has been in F1 for years designing world beating cars, whatever your experience, it simply cannot compete, and in the black art field of aerodynamics, I'm afraid he wins, hands down.

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On topic a bit more, one thing that impresses me is how much cleaner the lines / spoilers are on this car when compared to an F1 car. On reflection probably isn't that surprising, but having no rules to work around means the end result is in fact much simpler.
 
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I couldn't find the November issue of Car Magazine in the shops today, does anybody know what day it is due on the shelves?
 
I'm not going to argue with anyone over anything..

Just want to say.. "DAMN... I..Can..Not..Wait to drive that thing!" And yes, I agree with whoever says it's beautiful!...
 
Don't get me wrong, my intention is not to go harsh on you, bI am just using your post as an example, thus my apoligises.

First we had amateur-programmers who think they know better that preofessional programmers that are among the best in the world.

Than we had amateur-game-designers who think they know better than people who have brought 58 million+ of games to date at the worldwide market.

Than we had amateur-bussines-managers who think they know better than people that are played 7-digit-per-year in order to manage projects.

And now we have amateur-constructors who think they know better than man who is non-arguably the best constructor in the world.

Thank you GTPlanet, the level of hillariousness is getting higher with every day :lol:

^^ Best. Post. Ever

But on another note, this is another aerodynamist said:

"Amazed someone like Newey can't get away from the basic F1 archetype. Looks draggy, and with 1483 hp available it should go way faster than 249, which seems to confirm the suspicion as I suspect they at least ran some rudimentary figures to calculate Vmax. Why not make the roll over hoop conformal to the roof? F1 rear wing in basic execution, why not full width or even active aero with elements that conform to the body to reduce drag?"
 
Well I guess that's the trouble of having no rules to make a true competitor with Adrian Newey having already shown his cards with the X1 ironically.
I mean what's stopping Ferrari for example to create a similar concept and adding an engine producing 3000hp and claim they used a new top secret material keeping the weight under 250Kg, etc., etc.
It would've been interesting to give the same instruction to a few companies and see the different results but as it is I'm fine with having this car as a unique vision which capabilities can't be equalled.
Maybe a few different liveries/colours would add some distinction online.

True, they would just come along with something which has a million HP! :lol: But still it would be nice to have a few cars which are alike so you can have a 'series' to race in.

If they set a limit to how crazy the cars could be then giving various companies this 'design exercise' would probably produce interesting results. Maybe they should put the GT by Nike back in with a boost to rival this!

Robin.
 
Hrmm that roll over hoop does look odd now that someone's mentioned it.


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The car is meant to be a realistic approach on how a racecar could look like if it doesn't follow any, actual, rule. Some safety stuff doesn't hurt...
 
Launch Control has a way of manipulating the throttle input so that wheelspin is kept to a minimum and the car can get away without hassle.

Anyway, in the day of Group C/IMSA GTP cars, they were faster than their F1 counterparts. It's sad to see them go, but F1 had to be faster, so the FIA canceled their FIA world sportscar championship. F1 was fast, but the Group C cars were faster, even though they weighed about 200lbs. more. Around Monza they were faster, also around Spa, and at other tracks, they were just as fast. With modern Rubber and a weight loss, those cars could be faster than anything today. I don't doubt it.

Group C cars were never faster than F1 except on top speed. And when they ere closer on pace it's only due to the fact that in qual they threw huge, wide sticky tyres on the protoypes.

I can't remember which year, it was either '86 or '87 but Bellofs pole time at the Autosport 1000KM would've have got him 12th place on that year's F1 grid at Silverstone.
 
From the warning?

No, from this warning. Do not post spam or irrelevant links here. I'll cut you some slack since you are new here. Please review the AUP again, thanks.

Jerome
 
Top Speed: 249mph

Considering the Veyron SS can do 269mph...

I was expecting more tbh.

(I know this car is not all about top speed, but still expected a lot more.)
 
I couldn't find the November issue of Car Magazine in the shops today, does anybody know what day it is due on the shelves?

I've flicked through every page of my October issue but there's no "next month" preview section anymore it seems ( also the Car site doesn't announce when the next issue is due ).
In general next months issue appears roughly a few weeks into the previous month here in the Netherlands and I guess it even arrives sooner in the UK.
Whether that also applies to Liverpool I don't know.;)
 
I've flicked through every page of my October issue but there's no "next month" preview section anymore it seems ( also the Car site doesn't announce when the next issue is due ).
In general next months issue appears roughly a few weeks into the previous month here in the Netherlands and I guess it even arrives sooner in the UK.
Whether that also applies to Liverpool I don't know.;)

Thanks for trying. I flicked through the October issue today twice but couldn't find the next month bit either so put it back on the shelf. Also couldn't see anything on their website but the earliest comment on the October magazine content page was from Thursday 23rd September so I assume the new issue will be out later this week and Loxstokk got it early as he has a subscription. Normally in Liverpool we hold up the delivery van and "distribute" them early in the market but it's not on until Sunday :sly:
 
-> If the X1 has got a constantly variable transmission, why in the teaser the pilot (Vettel?) seemed to change gear with the wheel mounted paddle shifter?
I don't think that in a racing car the designers would fit a sub-optimal sequential emulation function for the CVT.

(thanks to anon@2ch for the observation :) )
 
Top Speed: 249mph

Considering the Veyron SS can do 269mph...

I was expecting more tbh.

(I know this car is not all about top speed, but still expected a lot more.)

I am pretty sure the X-1 will hit 249 before the Veyron. It may blow the Veyron away 0-400 and 0-1000 and every straight away on every circuit in the game. At 4200lbs the Veyron would need much more braking distance and any lead it may get will be lost under braking.

Hmm Cat an mouse will be interesting with the X-1 with cars like the SLR and F1 as the mouse :)
 
i just dont understand what top speed has to do with anything with this car. im sure it cna get to 249 easily. the veryone takes MILES to get to 260 and even then its not supposed to be going the fast. you will never get the veryone to 260 on any real race track. it doesnt on the ring.
 
i just dont understand what top speed has to do with anything with this car. im sure it cna get to 249 easily. the veryone takes MILES to get to 260 and even then its not supposed to be going the fast. you will never get the veryone to 260 on any real race track. it doesnt on the ring.

Exacly. When I tune my cars for Normal Round Courses, I usually make sure gears are very close for Max Power, as well it can go around 150-175 MPH depending on power of each car. I rather have super quick acceleration and always power to the wheels then straight line speed.
 
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