X1 Prototype- WOW!
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can't wait to drive it in the game and to pull down Vettel best performance on Suzuka
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- SigmaViper11
This machine has me more worried than happy. I'm quite impressed by the numbers it puts out, but I have worries over fuel consumption control-ability and whether or not we will have as much to adjust or not especially in terms of getting this things proper top speed. It is by far an incredible machine don't get me wrong, and Vettel got it around the track unbelievably fast, but I also have this nagging feeling he may have had his hands full when he did so.
@Folkedahl, On the post itself I seen a few mentions of the mighty Chaparral.
@Folkedahl, On the post itself I seen a few mentions of the mighty Chaparral.
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- Teh_Loserer and GTP_Teh_Loserer
- Teh Loserer
syagre
Incorrect. The car has a gas turbine engine and a CVT. It doesn't get it's power from thrust, it's a turboshaft engine. Exhaust turbines in turboshafts harness a greater percentage of the energy of the exhaust gas than those of a turbojet/turbofan (conventional jet) engine and convert it into rotary force. It's how helicopters and prop-planes have jet engines. The CVT in the car is necessary because jet engines can't spool up and down the way normal engines do. In a gas turbine aircraft, you set the turbine speed and lock it, and control airspeed by altering propeller pitch.
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- GTBR_Joker
Where can i find time comparisons between both categories (circuits where Group C and F1 races happened)?
but on a more serious note that thing looks simply radical, I can't wait to try it around Le Sarthe and one or two others.
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- SigmaViper11
But machines with a gearbox deriving power from a turbine still vary the speed of the turbine more similarly to a regular engine. Biggest difference though is that there is a rather considerable response lag.
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- SoCal
- GTP_MooCow
I didn't say the X1 or the RedBullRacing F1 cars or previous cars designed by Newey haven't been through all sorts of computer programs to calculate and test each aspect before something gets actually made as there's a whole team of engineers surrounding him but Newey himself doesn't use any computer program like CAD or similar but still draws the design of a new car on a drawing board first ( and in quite some detail too, full technical drawings not some loose sketches ).
Romanticized? Nope, he's perhaps indeed the last of a dying breed still preferring an old school approach and it actually works for him so why change?
Some people just think better and clearer using the methods they always used before, the results he comes up with using this method are far from old school though.
Ok! thanks for the explanations, I stand corrected, and have found myself the fool in this story, the fool for not believing there is still someone at that state of the art domain still relying on old school tools.
All the better for him 👍 More respect!
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- Teh Loserer
Not necessarily. I only have experience in the aviation industry and absolutely no experience with turbines driving wheels, so I'll gladly admit if I'm wrong here. But if you lock the throttle in place on say, a Huey, then it's locked. The only time you might have a decrease in N1 would be if you just yanked the hell out of the collective. Same goes for a King Air, you set the throttle lock and the engines stay at a constant speed, regardless of prop speed or pitch.
I imagine there would have to be some sort of give somewhere in the system if power is being transmitted to drive wheels and being forced to move a car, because there's a lot more resistance there than provided by air over an airfoil, but I dunno how it would work.
If you're in the know, fill me in!
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By pure speed I meant faster than every other car around the track, they have won all pole except 2, maybe 3 not sure. If pure speed means top speed alone than I'm sorry for my french, those guys at BBC use the expression "pure speed" to describe RBR being dominant in qualif as opposed to the actual race.
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- GTP_juniordee3
- Oddbug
As far as I know Force India have the fastest (top speed) cars.
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- RF_Stonemonkey
F1 car with CVT. DC seemed to like how it cornered without having to downshift.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x3UpBKXMRto
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x3UpBKXMRto
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- SoCal
- GTP_MooCow
Not necessarily. I only have experience in the aviation industry and absolutely no experience with turbines driving wheels, so I'll gladly admit if I'm wrong here. But if you lock the throttle in place on say, a Huey, then it's locked. The only time you might have a decrease in N1 would be if you just yanked the hell out of the collective. Same goes for a King Air, you set the throttle lock and the engines stay at a constant speed, regardless of prop speed or pitch.
I imagine there would have to be some sort of give somewhere in the system if power is being transmitted to drive wheels and being forced to move a car, because there's a lot more resistance there than provided by air over an airfoil, but I dunno how it would work.
If you're in the know, fill me in!
i just hope for you, that you dont write this in the "love thread" or ask your girlfriend for the plastic thingy... 
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Anes
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Just saw the news page. Looks good, but unless someone gifts it to me (HINT) I doubt I'll ever complete the licence test/24 hour race or whatever is needed to win it.
It would also dull every other car in the game because of it's immense speed I would suspect.
It would also dull every other car in the game because of it's immense speed I would suspect.
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- zerosnake99
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A lot of F1 cars and parts are designed on a computer. In fact listening to some of the teams throughout this F1 season, it seems that sometimes parts go straight from PC to track with zero real world testing.
Also re the discussion on weight... The simulation models are not so stupid as to forget about weight. In fact how could you design any real world object on a PC program that does not understand weight and gravity? I am not sure about the software F1 teams use, but it is fairly standard to have materials in software packages with real weights and strengths. I can recall old videos of F1 teams showing their cars in 3D exploded views with every single part modeled.
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I think it's ugly and that it might be highly overused both on and offline. It's only competition could be the Escudo PP or a perfectly tuned street/race car.
Anyway, no rant. Just my thoughts.
Anyway, no rant. Just my thoughts.
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- xNEVER-ONEx
We should be able to get custom liveries for it so we can start up a new series.
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That's why most of my online will be played in private GTP lobbies.
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I found a video of a lap of 2:20 and doubled the speed.
One hell of a ride.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T8taSil18Ec
One hell of a ride.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T8taSil18Ec
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Nah, I doubt it.. although we didn't know what it looked like, we knew it was there, so not really a surprise.
Looks incredible, though.. It's like a F1 car, the Batmobile, and a light cycle, all rolled into one.
As much as they're advertising it as a game feature, I don't think it'll be that difficult to get, all things considered. Probably a reward for beating the "normal" game.. finishing all races, etc.
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- SavageEvil
Seriously doubt this thing would have PP anywhere below 1000, none of the other cars would be able to match it, even tuned. You can't tune an F1 anymore, so this car would be in it's own Race against like cars.
I'm also thinking that GT online races will be more or less HP limited races anyway. No reason to be presumptuous about what is going to happen, besides if you are a member here, you can always link up with racers from here to keep from racing against the usual online uncouth.
