Young children should not be smacked as a means of punishment.

[Lucas]

I was smacked as a child, but by that I mean slaps on the cheek, not belts or anything like that. I reckon I was smacked a few times unnecessary, but overall, I'd say it was worth it considering how I behave.

 

[NissanSkylineN1]

By the way, I knew what they were doing and it's been going on for a LONG time on the internet with teen girls. And today is the first time I have heard it called that.

That's what the article/google said it was

 

[Joel]

I'd smack my tween daughter pretty hard with some foul language with it if I found them "twerking". Definately take her laptop away too, and ground her for at least a month. Shaking booty when you're 12-14? Wonder what they would do when they're 18 if they didn't get punishment...

Perhaps talking about it and being open about discussing sex related topics would be better than laying the smackdown.

 

[funkyDucks]

Child abuse is slamming the kid into the wall & throwing them down the steps not a well deserved whack upside the head. That's the problem with this world.

With an over politically correct world, even the most obvious of limits gets clouded.

 

[NissanSkylineN1]

Perhaps talking about it and being open about discussing sex related topics would be better than laying the smackdown.

Why? You think shaking booty is an appropriate to do for a girl that young? Its female degradation. "Fap" material for a pedophile. If you did it for your significant other, okay. But for everyone in the world to see? Hell no.

If they were googling sex stuff, then I'd talk to them about it, but shaking booty on the internet.. big nono.

However, that dad went waay too far... If you're gonna use a coaxial cable, you only hit them a few times and make sure its folded so the metal doesn't hit them. If they start screaming like a pig, like in that video, you stop.

 

[Carbonox]

I'd smack my tween daughter pretty hard with some foul language with it if I found them "twerking". Definately take her laptop away too, and ground her for at least a month. Shaking booty when you're 12-14? Wonder what they would do when they're 18 if they didn't get punishment...

You're being so extreme, I hope you don't get kids... 👎

There's definitely a shortage of parents who are able to rationally discuss things with their children and make them learn from that.

 

[NissanSkylineN1]

You're being so extreme, I hope you don't get kids... 👎

There's definitely a shortage of parents who are able to rationally discuss things with their children and make them learn from that.

It just doesn't work that way. I was hit when I was a kid, sometimes pretty hard for stupid stuff I did. Now I thank them for hitting me.

 

[Luminis]

Some kids these days could need a good smack every now and then. I know my parents didn't do that very often. In fact, the only time I remember doing so was when I was sticking stuff into a sprocket and my mom caught me. It's the "you're never going to do that again" kind of thing. And it worked.

Personally, I think that it should be a last resort. Sometimes, you can't get a kid in line with time-outs and taking their toys away. Of course, a little smack shouldn't actually hurt them. Done right, it should be more surprising to them than anything. Surprising in that their parents take immediate action. However, that won't work if they've been allowed to do whatever for three years or so before their parents even start caring.

Love such kids. Whenever I go to the mall near my place, there's a bunch of these around. Constantly throwing tantrums when mommy doesn't get them what they want ASAP. And their parents don't do a darn thing. The kid screams with a voice turned to eleven that it wants that chocolate bar now, already ripping the wrapping paper off... And mommy goes "hey sweety, please put this back, okay? Mommy is busy right now, sweety, please..."

Yeah, in such cases, I'd love to smack these kids myself.

 

[Carbonox]

If kids start screaming at shops, it would be best for the parents to leave without buying a thing, and make it clear they will do it in the future if the same behavior continues. It's horrendous how some parents (like my uncle's wife) can only silence their kids by giving them candy.

 

[Downhill Dino]

You're being so extreme, I hope you don't get kids... 👎

There's definitely a shortage of parents who are able to rationally discuss things with their children and make them learn from that.

That's extreme? No where near extreme. That sounds like she got off kind of lightly.

 

[Jet Badger]

I think we reached the point where humanity can forget all the woosy pussy talks and just beat the living crap out of each other whenever we find disagreements. That would make natural selection work and politcal debate shows would be more entertaining.

 

[Joel]

Its female degradation. "Fap" material for a pedophile. If you did it for your significant other, okay. But for everyone in the world to see? Hell no.

Do you honestly believe a 12-14 year old fully comprehends all of that?

If they were googling sex stuff, then I'd talk to them about it, but shaking booty on the internet.. big nono.

I didn't say it was appropriate, just that my immediate reaction wouldn't be to start hitting my kids for being sex charged teens without fully developed brains. Not to say doing something like this isn't the kid's fault, but they don't understand the ramifications of why it's wrong, and a beating won't change that.

I don't think it's morally wrong, but I'm not very convinced it's all that effective.

 

[Slash]

If kids start screaming at shops, it would be best for the parents to leave without buying a thing, and make it clear they will do it in the future if the same behavior continues. It's horrendous how some parents (like my uncle's wife) can only silence their kids by giving them candy.

All that shows the kid is that throwing a tantrum will give them what they want, and they will do it more often.

Personally, I look at it like this. Is 15 minutes of pleasure worth 18 years of hell?

 

[photonrider]

What ages are we talking about here?
If the child is old enough to understand - then some form of 'withdrawal of privileges' usually is deterrent enough. I only have to threaten to take away Internet or Gaming time and I get cooperation.

When my kids were younger, some form of restraint (like been given a 'Time out' or sat in a chair for some minutes) usually worked.

As for me, though, as a kid . . . well, I have to admit my Mom chased me around with a mop handle in her hand sometimes. I hooked it usually, and returned when she was back in a good mood.

 

[Encyclopedia]

Reading this thread you'd think you'd gone back in time some 50 years or more.

 

[Northstar]

Honestly, I'm all for hitting kids as some really need it. I can't believe some of the crap kids do on YouTube and think it's ok.





Obviously time outs aren't working(granted I have no proof these children were or were not exclusivly put on time out)...
I'm also aware that they are just posting them to get attention and I'm not making it better by watching them but I just selected 2 quickly to prove my point.

Granted I do think there is a fine line, but this crap would have never flown when I was younger(and I'm only 24). I really do have to wonder what the hell is wrong with kids and how the hell did it happen so fast.

I should note that I was spanked as a child, but is was only when I really messed up. Even than it was just a solo swat and than I went to my room.

 

[Encyclopedia]

Why should the girl in the first clip be hit? Yes it was a dumb move, but doesn't justify violence. Neither does the second clip.

 

[MarinaDiamandis]

Why should the girl in the first clip be hit? Yes it was a dumb move, but doesn't justify violence. Neither does the second clip.

Violence, really? Tiny exaggeration there.

 

[Encyclopedia]

Hitting is violence.

 

[MarinaDiamandis]

Hitting is violence.

Not in the case of physical discipline done correctly. Using the word violent to describe it is trying to paint it as uncontrolled and harmful to the recipient, of which it is the complete opposite.

 

[Encyclopedia]

Not in the case of physical discipline done correctly. Using the word violent to describe it is trying to paint it as uncontrolled and harmful to the recipient, of which it is the complete opposite.

I don't see what control has got to do with it really. Violence is violence, wether it's controlled or done in a berserker rage.

 

[Northstar]

Why should the girl in the first clip be hit? Yes it was a dumb move, but doesn't justify violence. Neither does the second clip.

When I was a kid, I was punished if I damaged someone else's property on purpose, nobody said it was just me being a kid like people do when seeing those videos. I'm not saying either should have had the crap beaten out of them right than and there but I'm guessing something happened in their upbringing that made them think doing crap like that is ok, more than likely a lack of any actual punishment.

 

[Encyclopedia]

There are so many ways you could punish them other than hitting them. Going for violence just shows a lack of creativity, among other things.

 

[Pagey279]

I don't see what control has got to do with it really. Violence is violence, wether it's controlled or done in a berserker rage.

Indeed, violence by definition is the use of physical force on a person with the intention of hurting them.

I had never been smacked as a child, but if I were a parent I think I would only use it as a last resort. If my child had done something pretty damn stupid, or if anything else I had tried had failed.

 

[MarinaDiamandis]

I don't see what control has got to do with it really. Violence is violence, wether it's controlled or done in a berserker rage.

Use a search engine and find me a definition for 'violent' or 'violence' that suggests it can be done with restraint.

There are so many ways you could punish them other than hitting them. Going for violence just shows a lack of creativity, among other things.

The point being that once the child has gone too far, you stop it there and then with a short, sharp shock. Even well-behaved children have moments where they push and push the limits of what is acceptable - effectively challenging the control of the parent. Give them an inch and they'll happily take a mile, as can be seen in many supermarkets with mothers desperately trying to hush and control their children.

 

[Northstar]

There are so many ways you could punish them other than hitting them. Going for violence just shows a lack of creativity, among other things.

I never said anything about using it as a first resort.

Also, whether or not you want to admit it or not, there is a difference between a single swat on the rear and going crazy using cords a make-shift whip in the same way giving a child a hug is not the same as full blown sex abuse.

 

[Encyclopedia]

Use a search engine and find me a definition for 'violent' or 'violence' that suggests it can be done with restraint.

So as long as it's done with restraint (how much btw) it cannot be violence?

The point being that once the child has gone too far, you stop it there and then with a short, sharp shock. Even well-behaved children have moments where they push and push the limits of what is acceptable - effectively challenging the control of the parent. Give them an inch and they'll happily take a mile, as can be seen in many supermarkets with mothers desperately trying to hush and control their children.

You can grab/carry away/ignore and pretend to leave them etc. The list goes on. I still fail to see the need to smack them. I have never in my life seen anything that could justify it. I had a couple of friends when I was a kid that were the kind that would lay down on the floor in stores and scream if tehy didn't get what they wanted. You know why they did it? Because it worked, their mother would give in and give them stuff, instead of letting them scream. Ignoring is a great weapon.

I never said anything about using it as a first resort.

Also, whether or not you want to admit it or not, there is a difference between a single swat on the rear and going crazy using cords a make-shift whip in the same way giving a child a hug is not the same as full blown sex abuse.

Yes there are different levels of bad and wrong.

 

[Doth1s]

So instead of giving a child a swift smack on the rear end, you find it much more acceptable to leave them?

 

[Encyclopedia]

So instead of giving a child a swift smack on the rear end, you find it much more acceptable to leave them?

Depends on what you mean by leave them. Not go home without them of course, but ignoring their tantrums to show that they have no effect.

 

[Doth1s]

Depends on what you mean by leave them. Not go home without them of course, but ignoring their tantrums to show that they have no effect.

So they act out even more?