Your favorite British rides in Gran Turismo

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DJW_GT
But not only is the car built in England, the designer is English, and the team principal of Red Bull Racing is also English. the owners of Red Bull GmbH (Austrian) are just the guys putting the money in to it

There's no right or wrong, I guess it just comes down to what each individual person would class as 'British'. I personally would class the Red Bull cars to be British, but others would call them Austrian.
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Any (major) car manufacturer has employees from many nations and some even factories in different nations, that doesn't make the company change from the nation it started from (even when they produce stimulating beverages instead of cars) unless they completely migrated to another country, officially RedBullRacing is and remains an Austrian team even when the cars are designed in Britain by British people.

Force India for example is also based in Silverstone yet it's an Indian team.
If Ferrari hired a British engineer and a British stylist and even assembled that car in Britain it would still be classified as Italian even though it can be considered to be a 'British Ferrari' perhaps, even though those people would ensure the car would feel and look as Italian as any other Ferrari.

In Formula One these things don't really matter as they all just try to make the fastest car regardless of specific elements attributed to certain nations as these would be considered irrelevant and inefficient.
Most F1 teams are based in the UK for the simple reason it has the best infrastructure for building racecars (for historic reasons), nothing more.
They don't suddenly feature walnut veneer dashboards or painted British Racing Green or have any elements which can be considered specifically British like British roadcars generally do.
 
analog
What exactly in that reply constitutes to trolling?

The national anthem I was referring to is ofcourse the Austrian one as the national anthem of the constructors country of origin gets played right after the national anthem of the drivers country of origin in Formula One which indicates RedBullRacing officially are Austrian regardless of where the cars are build.
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I take back what I said now, because my tv coverage only gives the drivers national anthem and then cuts off for ads, and does not show the constructors presentation. Learn something new everyday.
 
Bushby_23
I take back what I said now, because my tv coverage only gives the drivers national anthem and then cuts off for ads, and does not show the constructors presentation. Learn something new everyday.
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Okay fair enough, although it's better to ask something you might not get at first (or do some research) than to immediately assume or accuse someone of trolling, it makes the conversation more pleasant.
 
Aston Martin Vanquish
Caterham Fireblade
Lotus Evora
Lotus Elise 111R
Lotus Elise 111R RM
Jaguar XKR
TVR Tuscan RM
Jaguar E Type
Jaguar XJ13
Mclaren F1
 
Please P.D (i know you read these pages, hah) fix the Mclaren F1 road car. It's the road car, it should have the soft road car suspension. It would look much better and more realistic on the road, it would be more forgiving on road tyres. Then it would be my favorite. As it is it just annoys me whenever I drive it.


I want to add the Aston Martin Vantage to the list of good British cars though.
 
'61 Jag E-Type

I wish this car was Premium so badly. Beautiful lines, undeniably British, just a great car.
 
analog
Which national anthem get's played frequently after the German one when Vettel won?
There's your answer.
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That's just the owners, Adrian Newey designed that car and if it ever would be built it would be built in the UK. It's one of the few areas were Britain is still truly great...motorsport.


on topic...I love 'em all!
 
sinbad
Please P.D (i know you read these pages, hah) fix the Mclaren F1 road car. It's the road car, it should have the soft road car suspension. It would look much better and more realistic on the road, it would be more forgiving on road tyres. Then it would be my favorite. As it is it just annoys me whenever I drive it.


I want to add the Aston Martin Vantage to the list of good British cars though.
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Hmm... As far as I´m concerned, the Mclaren´s suspension should feel like that. It is not an easy to drive car. And being made back in the early 90´s, it shouldn´t be expected to bahave well, though surprisingly, if you manage to control it, it´s faster than any other modern supercar.

Check this vid. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t7Azl-drqMk
I think Tiff makes it very clear on how the car behaves. I believe it to be a very good reference on how exact the car´s performance and handling was simulated in the game. Just look as how he struggles with it, but manages to have full control. Check how stiff the suspension looks on bumps as well. And if you don´t like Tiff Needell look for a review with Clarkson. This video was before Tiff went to 5th Gear.

In my humble opinion, this is probably one of the best cars in the whole game. The only one that leaves your legs shaking and with maniac grin after hitting the Nurburgring.
 
HuskyGT
Hmm... As far as I´m concerned, the Mclaren´s suspension should feel like that. It is not an easy to drive car. And being made back in the early 90´s, it shouldn´t be expected to bahave well, though surprisingly, if you manage to control it, it´s faster than any other modern supercar.

Check this vid. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t7Azl-drqMk
I think Tiff makes it very clear on how the car behaves. I believe it to be a very good reference on how exact the car´s performance and handling was simulated in the game. Just look as how he struggles with it, but manages to have full control. Check how stiff the suspension looks on bumps as well. And if you don´t like Tiff Needell look for a review with Clarkson. This video was before Tiff went to 5th Gear.

In my humble opinion, this is probably one of the best cars in the whole game. The only one that leaves your legs shaking and with maniac grin after hitting the Nurburgring.
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But look at how much body roll there is at 6:50 (and onwards)!
Look how much pitch there is under braking, look at the onboard camera sections where he hits the brakes and the car pitches forward hard. There's a massive difference, and for me it makes the presence of the f1 a bit worthless. Murray designed it to be the ultimate road car. For the stock f1 to not have that suspension would be like putting a Murciellago V12 in the Veyron.

Not that it matters, but I don't think the f1 is at all tricky to drive in gt5, even with comfort tyres, but with softer suspension the handling should feel more progressive as weight transfer becomes a slower and less aggressive affair.
(Perhaps I am giving the gt5 physics engine a bit too much credit)
 
sinbad
But look at how much body roll there is at 6:50 (and onwards)!
Look how much pitch there is under braking, look at the onboard camera sections where he hits the brakes and the car pitches forward hard. There's a massive difference, and for me it makes the presence of the f1 a bit worthless. Murray designed it to be the ultimate road car. For the stock f1 to not have that suspension would be like putting a Murciellago V12 in the Veyron.

Not that it matters, but I don't think the f1 is at all tricky to drive in gt5, even with comfort tyres, but with softer suspension the handling should feel more progressive as weight transfer becomes a slower and less aggressive affair.
(Perhaps I am giving the gt5 physics engine a bit too much credit)
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True. I didn´t noticed the bodyroll.

As for driving the Mclaren with comfort softs, I don´t think that´s the best choice (assuming that you do). If the little 190HP Elise feels terrible with those, I couldn´t imagine the 600hp F1 with those tires.

Although I know it beats the purspose, have you tried softening the spring rate on that thing? That would probably help you get the feel that you want. Still, if you don´t like the car in the game, it´s ok. I understand people´s chioces are always different.
 
1: McLaren F1, tuned to LM spec
2: Jaguar XJ220
3: Aston Martin DB7, tuned to GT spec
4: Aston Martin DB9, tuned to DBS spec
5: McLaren MP4-12C
All on sports softs are brilliant
 
huskeR32
'61 Jag E-Type

I wish this car was Premium so badly. Beautiful lines, undeniably British, just a great car.
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I couldn't agree more, the E-Type would look delicious as a premium!
 
The F1 is a great car. I bought it after buying and driving an Enzo, so my expectations were low, but I loved it. Quick, but it won't kill you.
 
Tower Turn 13
Do any cars in GT5 have realistic body roll? I always feel rather suspiciously centered through corners.
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We were refering to a real video of the Mclaren. But you´re right. I´ve lifted my Ram and softened the suspension to the minimum, as well as lowering the strenght of the stabilizers to 1, and it´s rediculous that even with that, a 4000 pound truck has no body roll whatsoever.

Keeping with the thread, I have to say that the Jaguar E Type does have a considerate amount of body roll. I guess some cars do, some others don´t.
 
The TVR Cerbera.
I fell in love with it ever since I saw it in GT2.
I was a little angry when I saw that it wasn't a premium car. I don't even know if it is in GT5.
 
-Cerbera Speed 12, because it looks, sounds, and acts awesome
-Jag XJ13, because it looks better then the standard E-Type (In my opinion)
-Both Mclarens, for being sexy
-Caterham, for the coolest standard internal view next to the Tank Car
 
HuskyGT
Keeping with the thread, I have to say that the Jaguar E Type does have a considerate amount of body roll. I guess some cars do, some others don´t.
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interesting. I've still never driven the E-Type though I bought one the other day. I'll have to try it out.
 
Hmm, not sure I can choose just one. McLaren F1 is just awesome, relatively solid and very well balanced but I don't drive it stock. F1 LM setup baby on Sport Tires :)

Jaguar XJ220, this baby tuned to the max on Sport tires is just awesome, a bit much body roll, but it's awesome growl is sweet to listen to as you race to 200mph.

Most of the TVR's, especially the TC350 and Speed 12, one is light weight and well balanced the other is one noisy monster of a car that begs for me to find more road to feed it. The addition of standard cockpit view has given me a new appreciation for many cars, especially how the sense of speed changes drastically.
 
HuskyGT
True. I didn´t noticed the bodyroll.

As for driving the Mclaren with comfort softs, I don´t think that´s the best choice (assuming that you do). If the little 190HP Elise feels terrible with those, I couldn´t imagine the 600hp F1 with those tires.

Although I know it beats the purspose, have you tried softening the spring rate on that thing? That would probably help you get the feel that you want. Still, if you don´t like the car in the game, it´s ok. I understand people´s chioces are always different.
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Well let's not get into the tyre debate, but suffice to say that if comfort soft is still perhaps too grippy for a 2011 Merc Sls, then it's more than enough for a 90s super car.

Regarding fitting adjustable suspension and softening, I have tried. It's a marginal difference from "stock".
Imo the very fact that the "stock" suspension on the f1 is the basic "sports suspension" upgrade is just weird, and really makes me think they only had data for the small volume homologation specials.

About the body roll, some do and indeed some don't roll and pitch enough. I tend to gravitate toward the ones which do.
It's a shame because in the early Gran Turismo games, the body movement and impression of weight transfer really marked them out as more serious and realistic games.
Must try harder, p.d!
 
McLaren F1
Jaguar XJ220
Jaguar XJR Race Car
Aston Martin DB7
Aston Martin DB9
Aston Martin V8 Vantage
Lotus Esprit
TVR Cerbera Speed 12
TVR Tuscan Speed 6
 
In order of preference,

Caterham fireblade
Caterham fireblade,
CATERHAM FIREBLADE.

lol.

Elise all variants,
evora,
esprit v8

Tvr t350c

Heavy metal astons.
 
HuskyGT
True. I didn´t noticed the bodyroll.

As for driving the Mclaren with comfort softs, I don´t think that´s the best choice (assuming that you do). If the little 190HP Elise feels terrible with those, I couldn´t imagine the 600hp F1 with those tires.

Although I know it beats the purspose, have you tried softening the spring rate on that thing? That would probably help you get the feel that you want. Still, if you don´t like the car in the game, it´s ok. I understand people´s chioces are always different.
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That's the best choice if you're trying to simulate realistic grip. I actually use Comfort Soft on rear and Comfort Medium on front, because the car is setup to understeer a little in real life and it just don't with same tires front and rear. And even with these tires I managed to set almost the same time Naoki Hattori set in Tsukuba in their test on Best Motoring.

We really need to ask PD to fix the McLaren F1, it's clearly one of the cars people most like and it's completely wrong.

As a matter of fact I would be more than happy with a game that had just the Nordschleife and the McLaren F1 perfectly simulated.
 

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