OK, I'd just like to jump in here with my opinion after playing GT5 for a bit:
Now.
GT5 is incredible, it's scope is massive. It's a huge game. Unfortunately the master of nothing in particular, but wow! So much game for the money! Beautiful premium cars and tracks, not without their own problems, but let's not start on that path, as no other game at the moment can even hold a candle to GT5 in that respect, period. Fantastic driving physics, cars look so realistic in cornering and through loss of grip and weight shifting it's the best I've seen in a console game. NASCAR is actually a lot better than I thought and I suspect it will be a blast online. The AI is strange, sometimes better than GT4 or GT5P and sometimes just as bad as before. Damage, not all that good but I have heard full damage will be unlocked later (I wonder what genius came up with that bright idea). It's also the first GT with damage so perhaps we can cut PD some slack and allow them to perfect it. Same with online, as a matter of fact. Top Gear? I am a big fan and have to say it doesn't do the show justice. The replays don't have the cameras used in the show and the cars used in the show are not in the game! Missed opportunity there but I have a feeling that we'll get those rectified soon. In fact, I feel that with 2 updates already delivered, GT5 could be one of the most heavily patched games ever. That could be a very good thing. If it's an organic process that listened closely to the fans it could be GT's finest hour, after quite a shaky start...
No onto the biggest problem, (yes I have to admit I agree with you guys on this one), Standard vs. Premium. Big deal? Yes! But here is the thing. I would have been happy with the Standards with vector lines for door and things, instead of textures and all the headlights and wipers remodelled, oh and being allowed to paint and change wheels on all cars. This discussion would not even take place and GT5 would have been released a year ago with probably 1500 cars in total and 16 cars on track at all times. Why? That's how the cars in Enthusia Professional Racing were modelled. And those cars looked phenomenal for the PS2 and put GT4's car models to shame. Now these in higher resolution, (most likely the game would have run in true 1080p HD) would look as good, if not better than the cars in FM2 and even FM3 and much, much more realistic, due to GT5's superior lighting engine. The sheer content on GT5 would have owned the consoles of this generation. I see KY as a visionary, and perhaps a bit to optimistic about the power of the PS3. He started making a game that will most likely work on PS4 and then found himself in a loosing battle trying to make it work on the PS3. After all that is said and done, GT5 is still a milestone in many aspects, it just a little half-baked. If patches correct the problems and GT5 becomes a bit of a test-bed for KY on how GT6 needs to be, I'm cool with that. GT6, I feel, will be a product polished and optimized with the know-how learned from GT5, and it will most likely bring in the omitted classic GT tracks and have all cars as Premium. I think GT7, perhaps on the PS4 will finally meet or at least be very close to KY's vision.
So... We can all moan and whine but PD are knuckling down and constantly patching this mother of a driving game and learning from their mistakes. This is much more that can be said about the developer of a direct competitor I mentioned earlier, FM series. So constructive criticism, good!👍 Non-constructive whining and moaning, useless. You're either with this game series and want to improve it or want to tear it down with immature and unfounded anger. If it's the latter, your place is not here. This is my opinion. I know I may be flamed by all the fans disappointed with GT5 but these forums are in a bit of a state because of this kind of foul attitude. I don't remember GT4 release being like this and that game too, was far from perfect. I did not post then but I read the forums just the same.
This a pretty long post but I had a lot to say. I would have made a thread but apparently I'm not allowed to, yet. Otherwise I would have called it,"Are you a GT fan or not?", I would have even made a poll with yes or no choices. After all, that's why we are here on the GTPlanet!
Now.
GT5 is incredible, it's scope is massive. It's a huge game. Unfortunately the master of nothing in particular, but wow! So much game for the money! Beautiful premium cars and tracks, not without their own problems, but let's not start on that path, as no other game at the moment can even hold a candle to GT5 in that respect, period. Fantastic driving physics, cars look so realistic in cornering and through loss of grip and weight shifting it's the best I've seen in a console game. NASCAR is actually a lot better than I thought and I suspect it will be a blast online. The AI is strange, sometimes better than GT4 or GT5P and sometimes just as bad as before. Damage, not all that good but I have heard full damage will be unlocked later (I wonder what genius came up with that bright idea). It's also the first GT with damage so perhaps we can cut PD some slack and allow them to perfect it. Same with online, as a matter of fact. Top Gear? I am a big fan and have to say it doesn't do the show justice. The replays don't have the cameras used in the show and the cars used in the show are not in the game! Missed opportunity there but I have a feeling that we'll get those rectified soon. In fact, I feel that with 2 updates already delivered, GT5 could be one of the most heavily patched games ever. That could be a very good thing. If it's an organic process that listened closely to the fans it could be GT's finest hour, after quite a shaky start...No onto the biggest problem, (yes I have to admit I agree with you guys on this one), Standard vs. Premium. Big deal? Yes! But here is the thing. I would have been happy with the Standards with vector lines for door and things, instead of textures and all the headlights and wipers remodelled, oh and being allowed to paint and change wheels on all cars. This discussion would not even take place and GT5 would have been released a year ago with probably 1500 cars in total and 16 cars on track at all times. Why? That's how the cars in Enthusia Professional Racing were modelled. And those cars looked phenomenal for the PS2 and put GT4's car models to shame. Now these in higher resolution, (most likely the game would have run in true 1080p HD) would look as good, if not better than the cars in FM2 and even FM3 and much, much more realistic, due to GT5's superior lighting engine. The sheer content on GT5 would have owned the consoles of this generation. I see KY as a visionary, and perhaps a bit to optimistic about the power of the PS3. He started making a game that will most likely work on PS4 and then found himself in a loosing battle trying to make it work on the PS3. After all that is said and done, GT5 is still a milestone in many aspects, it just a little half-baked. If patches correct the problems and GT5 becomes a bit of a test-bed for KY on how GT6 needs to be, I'm cool with that. GT6, I feel, will be a product polished and optimized with the know-how learned from GT5, and it will most likely bring in the omitted classic GT tracks and have all cars as Premium. I think GT7, perhaps on the PS4 will finally meet or at least be very close to KY's vision.
So... We can all moan and whine but PD are knuckling down and constantly patching this mother of a driving game and learning from their mistakes. This is much more that can be said about the developer of a direct competitor I mentioned earlier, FM series. So constructive criticism, good!👍 Non-constructive whining and moaning, useless. You're either with this game series and want to improve it or want to tear it down with immature and unfounded anger. If it's the latter, your place is not here. This is my opinion. I know I may be flamed by all the fans disappointed with GT5 but these forums are in a bit of a state because of this kind of foul attitude. I don't remember GT4 release being like this and that game too, was far from perfect. I did not post then but I read the forums just the same.
This a pretty long post but I had a lot to say. I would have made a thread but apparently I'm not allowed to, yet. Otherwise I would have called it,"Are you a GT fan or not?", I would have even made a poll with yes or no choices. After all, that's why we are here on the GTPlanet!
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But I agree with just about all of it. GT5 is a weird experiment in trying new recipes to see what flavors people like, but in the haste to get GT5 out by Black Friday in the States, a few weird issues are coming to light. Turn off race music, and the ending celebration music is killed too?? Replays stop before the finish line?? Very odd. So is the music selection. I wish SONY would let PD patch in the tunes from Prologue, except I bet that's a big licensing hassle to redo agreements and payments to bands. But several of those tunes were just awesome. This has to be the worst soundtrack list for a GT game ever. A number of things are quite odd about this game, though to me, it's still incredible.
