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Discussion in 'AC Tuning' started by Zakspeed_TV, Sep 2, 2016.
T300 900 degrees on wheel
Alien Challenge side project
So first up is the Mclaren 650S GT3 @ Brands Hatch GP, Hit 1:23.4 online its the fastest iv seen up to now on PS4, hit 8 fastest laps in another race so very consistent. It is early days so maybe with more time on it 22s could be possible.
Ferrari 458 GT2 @ Mugello 1.47.7 this car is a dream to drive, love the sound
Mclaren 650S @ Nords 6.36 im sure i can get this down to 630 with more time on it, its class
Corvette C7R @ Vallelunga 132.5
Zonda R 6.25
Mk1 Escort @ Brands Hatch GP Event
Mclaren 650S GT3 Special Event The new black
AMG GT3 @ Monza
Lotus Exos 125 stage 1 Special Event Quick one
Lotus Exos 125 Stage 1 @ Nords 5.23
Why do you have the "Under Steer Effect" set to "OFF"?
Feels better off to me, maybe if we could have it on about 20% or something that could be ok. Its all personal preference tho.
Looking forward to trying out your tunes on AC Zakspeed, they served me well in PCars.
Good to hear mate
Please do the BMW E30 hotlap Challenge with default setup..
And then make a killer setup so I can get that gold medal
Supposedly the physics are identical on pc and console so I'm going to give this a spin and see how it works for me. Your driving is incredibly smooth as usual Nice to see that in this game you can be super, super quick simply by driving like a real race driver would. Keeping the car in control and using all of the available track surface. Should really be a training video for anyone looking to gain some speed.
Cheers Johnny yes be great to see how it works on PC, supposedly is the operative word tho
Any feedback would be much appreciated mate, also if there's any pointers to improve too
So, while it is possible that the physics are the same, the scale used on some of the tune settings is not. I was not able to match up all of the settings you used. I tried the best I could and got many of them right on, but several I had to guess at. I didn't write down which ones were different but enough of them that it made me wonder if even the ones I could match up might also be on a different scale. For me it was a bit understeery from entry to exit so I softened and lowered the front end and dialed back the front ARB and that fixed it nice. I think I took the rear diff back 5 or 10 points too.
I did run higher camber though, around 3.5/2.5 and used the tire pressure app to calculate the best hot pressures which ended up starting at:
Best lap was a 1:23.891 but I was able to consistently run in the low 24's. RSR Pro settings, no ABS, no aids, full damage etc.
Sucks that we can't share settings across platforms.
I have been looking at this. There are a lot of PC ini files out there. I have discovered that you can open them in "Note Pad" the numbers are scattered over about 3 pages and some of the terminology is different but I have successfully worked out the setups and they seem to work on my PS4. Some numbers directly transfer over, some you need to guess at. e.g the ini file will state "Tyres 1" so you need to guess (through trial and error) if that is a Soft, Medium or Hard Slick.
What would be greatly appreciated is someone with the PC version and a PS4 to publish both the actual same tune from a PC ini file and one they have done on their PS4 so we can crack the code and preferably a standard tune too.
I am always looking at ways at trying to reduce the very steep learning curve times on these games.
I hope this helps.
Good stuff my man
Nice one Johnny Yeah shame we can't share across platforms, i will defo try your tyres and cams tho.
We really need that app what you PC guys have, i was running like 5-10 then checking temps in the pits not sure how accurate that is tho. But the temp on the left was higher than the right, was that the case for you? as i see you have it the other way around. Any feedback is great as im new to the game/sim and still lots to learn.
Every tire has an ideal pressure that provides the most grip and that's what I try and hit with the staggered pressures. I haven't tested it emprically but IMO pressures are more important than ideal temps because the temps aren't affected much by small adjustments in tire pressure around the ideal pressures. So I shoot for ideal pressures and let the temps fall where they may.
Ok thanks mate, but without the tyre pressure app we only have temps to go off really.
Use the Setup I/O screen when in the pits. Gives the hot and cold pressures and if you come off the track it gives you the pressures from that point on the track if I'm not mistaken. So exiting a corner they will be higher and entering a corner they will be lower. Just keep that in mind if you make adjustments. It's a roundabout way of doing things but it works.
I read that the timer in the console version doesn't tick over at the same speed as a real clock. Can't remember if faster or slower. Does the PC one count seconds properly? If they're different I don't see how console players can accurately compare setups with the PC players because of this.
Which timer are you referring to? The lap timer? Can't say I've ever measure the accuracy of the timer and never heard of it being an issue.
I'm sure it was mentioned in the VVV review podcast chat thing, where it was discussed and Alan agreed the timing was out but as long as it was the same for everyone then he didn't mind it. Thought I read it on the official forums somewhere too but not sure. I was just wondering if it really existed and was across all platforms.
How do you address the settings that are on a different scale? Zak had numbers on his console tune that aren't available on the pc version. One way to do it would be to post a stock tune from the same car on each system and compare them and try to determine if it's only the slider range that's changed but the placement on the slider is the same spot. Seems like a lot of work though.
As I said there is guess work involved and until some kind soul posts some standard tunes for both systems we won't really know.
As a side note, later in the career Kunos supplies tuning tips for some GT cars. The real funny thing is their numbers don't match either. e.g. (and this is from memory) SLS AMG GT3 Kunos says "Reduce rear ride height to zero" The adjustment only goes as low as 5 :-))
The whole game is really a bit of a mess.
Also have a look at the Lotus Exos 125 stage one tuning screen. You actually have to set the rear Camber to two different numbers to get the same number of degrees.
^lol crazy. Ferrari 458 GT2 @ Mugello added
I do really like your tunes and I find them an excellent starting point. Your PCars Zakspeed Capri tune I found to be one of my favourites :-) Would it be possible to include a written list of settings we could copy and paste into a document?
If you are looking for challenges may I suggest the Lotus Exos 125 Stage 1 at Mugello. It is a car I am struggling with and to win the career race in the open wheeler section you have to be able to do low 1:23s (on easy) the closest I can get is 1:27 so I am 4 secs off the pace. The main problem seems to be the tyres going off. Softs start well and then turn to jelly by the second lap, hards just can't get on the pace soon enough and by the time they seem to be working the field has disappeared and I have lost too much time trying too hard. The other compounds, well, are just as bad. Anyway trying to balance the car is proving difficult because it is either under or over steering depending on what the tyres are doing. Wear on or off doesn't seem to matter much and giving it too much aero just kills the speed on the main straight :-(
As I said above, the tuning settings are screwy on this car just to complicate things :-(
Ehm, tried that, i was like 7 seconds off your pace, your use of the entire track width is out of this world, the only thing left for me now is to ask to be in the same session as you and perhaps i might be able to get some pointers.
cheers mate, you are awesome
I have given this tune a go and I do like it...... a lot :-) Using your criteria, all assists off, 1 warm up lap then the timed lap, 10L of fuel etc I have managed 1:49.2s. It is nice that I have some sort of benchmark now that I can gauge if I am actually any good at this game ;-)
I should add I am not much of a hot lapper and get board too quick in GT6 time trials too, so after about 10 laps I am very pleased with this.
The problem I am have with this tune and the issue I am having with the Lotus Exos is that the tyres on the second lap out have turned to jelly rubber and become next to useless. Swapping to harder tyres just makes it slower (not by much though but enough). Also as soon as you get a little too aggressive with "hanging the back out" it destroys the tyres as well.
I found upping the tyre pressures by 3psi on the left side (F + B) did help me and the the trick is not to be too aggressive (have fun) on the out lap.
Also, turning tyre wear OFF gives the same effect except now you can't see tyre temps :-(
Thanks again, I like your work.
PS with tyre wear ON I have never seen any wear, blistering or graining on any tyre, on any car, that I have driven so far. Try some donuts and see if I'm right.
Hi sorry just haven't the time to write the settings down, my time is really limited and can't get on as often as i like.
Will take a look at that Lotus at some point, just working on the GT stuff at the mo.
Cheers fella, your welcome to join me anytime when im online, be better when we get private lobbys tho
Cheers man great to get some good feedback the setup was done with TC off but when you go online it switches it on 1 for some reason, i never even knew at the time lol
Got the 650S flying round Nords now, will get a great baseline setup out today.
Will try and have a quick look at that Lotus
Ok Mclaren 650S GT3 added @ Nords this is a dream to drive here and still has more to go