Sciaru BRZFRS (BreezeFrees)

R1600Turbo · Apr 27 2012, 2:18 PM #3121

So spend $50 on Toyota badging. Problem solved.

Kamuifanboy · Apr 27 2012, 7:59 PM #3122

R1600Turbo

So spend $50 on Toyota badging. Problem solved.

Don't forget the wheels. So then you're looking at more than 50 bucks if you want to be convincing.

RocZX · 8:31 PM

BRZ vs 86 vs Miata MX5

sumbrownkid · Apr 27 2012, 8:27 PM #3124

The average buyer of a Toyota is usually in the 40-50 year old bracket, buying camrys and Priuses. In America at least.

The average Scion buyer is around the college age group. It doesn't make marketing sense to put it in the Toyota line up.

Eunos_Cosmo · Apr 27 2012, 9:56 PM #3125

MX-5 needs more power. And less weight. And moar rotary.

Rotary Junkie · Apr 27 2012, 10:00 PM #3126

Eunos_Cosmo

MX-5 needs more power.

Okay.

Eunos_Cosmo

And less weight.

Okay.

Eunos_Cosmo

And moar rotary.

Suddenly it's not an MX-5, it's an RX-*insert*.

Eunos_Cosmo · Apr 27 2012, 10:05 PM #3127

Why not MX-5 RE?

eSZee · Apr 27 2012, 10:22 PM #3128

sumbrownkid

The average buyer of a Toyota is usually in the 40-50 year old bracket, buying camrys and Priuses. In America at least.

The average Scion buyer is around the college age group. It doesn't make marketing sense to put it in the Toyota line up.

Average age of toyota buyer is 62 and dropping. Average age of Scion buyer is 35 and rising.

Eunos_Cosmo

Why not MX-5 RE?

Because Mazda needs the car to sell.

eSZee · Apr 27 2012, 10:23 PM #3129

duuuupe

R1600Turbo · Apr 27 2012, 10:35 PM #3130

RocZX

BRZ vs 86 vs Miata MX5

Kind of expected actually, since the current MX-5 is now 6 years old.

And a Rotary "Option" would be fantastic for the re-design.

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Eunos_Cosmo

Why not MX-5 RE?

Why not RX-5?

Eunos_Cosmo · Apr 27 2012, 11:24 PM #3132

I could actually see that working nicely with Mazda's current naming convention, no how matter how incorrect it would be historically speaking.

Either way, it should never be the only engine offered in the MX-5, but it would be an awesome option. I'd buy one in a heartbeat.

/off topic

I'm totally unthrilled by the sound of the BRZFRS. Just sounds kind of flat and uninteresting.

ShortAznGuy · Apr 28 2012, 1:58 PM #3133

R1600Turbo

Kind of expected actually, since the current MX-5 is now 6 years old.

And a Rotary "Option" would be fantastic for the re-design.

And it's also plausible because Mazda said they wouldn't be ditching the rotary engine anytime soon.

Eric. · Apr 28 2012, 4:35 PM #3134

eSZee

Average age of toyota buyer is 62 and dropping. Average age of Scion buyer is 35 and rising.

Buyer, or driver? Both my name and my dad's are on the title to my Civic. He's nearing 60 and I was 18 at the time of purchase.

I would bet most New Beetles are driven by teenage-college girls, but statistics would show the average buyer to be a 40-something male.

**Kent** · Apr 28 2012, 4:53 PM #3135

That miata got spanked.

Not much of a surprise after seeing them go through the twisty spot on the first lap, the brz and 86 looked so much more well composed than that miata.
Kinda sucks for Mazda, first Best Motoring said they liked the Pontiac Solstice more, now this.

eSZee · Apr 28 2012, 5:05 PM #3136

Eric.

Buyer, or driver? Both my name and my dad's are on the title to my Civic. He's nearing 60 and I was 18 at the time of purchase.

I would bet most New Beetles are driven by teenage-college girls, but statistics would show the average buyer to be a 40-something male.

Buyer. Driver statistics would be much, much harder to come by.

R1600Turbo · Apr 28 2012, 5:59 PM #3137

Kent

That miata got spanked.

Not much of a surprise after seeing them go through the twisty spot on the first lap, the brz and 86 looked so much more well composed than that miata.
Kinda sucks for Mazda, first Best Motoring said they liked the Pontiac Solstice more, now this.

Yeah and where is that Solstice now?

Just sayin'.

But like I said, the NC MX-5 has hardly changed over it's 6 year life span. Mazda needs to start teasing us with the new car, although I don't expect the car to be competitive with the 86. Not a huge deal for me, but I'm waiting to see what Mazda comes up with before I jump on the 86 bandwagon. If they surprise with a Rotary option and a good looking car, consider me sold. (turbo-4 works too)

Keef · Apr 28 2012, 6:43 PM #3138

Best Motoring liked the Solstice more? You're gonna have to find that because I straight up don't believe it.

Keef · Apr 28 2012, 6:52 PM #3139

Eunos_Cosmo

And moar rotary.

Rotary Junkie

Suddenly it's not an MX-5, it's an RX-*insert*.

Eunos_Cosmo

Why not MX-5 RE?

eSZee

Because Mazda needs the car to sell.

The Miata is based on a fundamentally different idea than the RX cars. They're not compatible.

**Kent** · 9:27 PM

Lazy fail is lazy

http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&sourc...f0VVOyJacjSGBA

Just checked and yea...
Solstice was faster and tsuchiya seemed to like it so much he questioned why it wasnt in japan.

Btw, I've been waiting for the chance to say this for my avatar's sake...
Believe it!

Arizona 28,324	Apr 27 2012, 2:18 PM #3121 R1600Turbo Austin: T-Minus 1 day! Online Now! So spend $50 on Toyota badging. Problem solved.

NEW YORK 4,906	Apr 27 2012, 8:25 PM #3123 RocZX BRZ vs 86 vs Miata MX5 Last edited by RocZX; Apr 27 2012 at 8:31 PM.

Tampa FL USA 6,629	Apr 27 2012, 8:27 PM #3124 sumbrownkid Diamond Member The average buyer of a Toyota is usually in the 40-50 year old bracket, buying camrys and Priuses. In America at least. The average Scion buyer is around the college age group. It doesn't make marketing sense to put it in the Toyota line up.

HP, Texas 1,871	Apr 27 2012, 9:56 PM #3125 Eunos_Cosmo Diamond Member MX-5 needs more power. And less weight. And moar rotary.

HP, Texas 1,871	Apr 27 2012, 10:05 PM #3127 Eunos_Cosmo Diamond Member Why not MX-5 RE?

Local 8,080	Apr 27 2012, 10:23 PM #3129 eSZee big tires > big wheels duuuupe

Staff Emeritus Louisiana 7,194	Apr 28 2012, 4:53 PM #3135 Kent Retired That miata got spanked. Not much of a surprise after seeing them go through the twisty spot on the first lap, the brz and 86 looked so much more well composed than that miata. Kinda sucks for Mazda, first Best Motoring said they liked the Pontiac Solstice more, now this.

Dayton, Ohio 17,773	Apr 28 2012, 6:43 PM #3138 Keef Merry Christmas atheists! Best Motoring liked the Solstice more? You're gonna have to find that because I straight up don't believe it.

Staff Emeritus Louisiana 7,194	Apr 28 2012, 7:15 PM #3140 Kent Retired Lazy fail is lazy http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&sourc...f0VVOyJacjSGBA Just checked and yea... Solstice was faster and tsuchiya seemed to like it so much he questioned why it wasnt in japan. Btw, I've been waiting for the chance to say this for my avatar's sake... Believe it! Last edited by Kent; Apr 28 2012 at 9:27 PM.