CodeRedR51
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So spend $50 on Toyota badging. Problem solved.
So spend $50 on Toyota badging. Problem solved.
MX-5 needs more power.
And less weight.
And moar rotary.
The average buyer of a Toyota is usually in the 40-50 year old bracket, buying camrys and Priuses. In America at least.
The average Scion buyer is around the college age group. It doesn't make marketing sense to put it in the Toyota line up.
Why not MX-5 RE?
BRZ vs 86 vs Miata MX5
Kind of expected actually, since the current MX-5 is now 6 years old.
And a Rotary "Option" would be fantastic for the re-design. 👍
Average age of toyota buyer is 62 and dropping. Average age of Scion buyer is 35 and rising.
Buyer, or driver? Both my name and my dad's are on the title to my Civic. He's nearing 60 and I was 18 at the time of purchase.
I would bet most New Beetles are driven by teenage-college girls, but statistics would show the average buyer to be a 40-something male.
That miata got spanked.
Not much of a surprise after seeing them go through the twisty spot on the first lap, the brz and 86 looked so much more well composed than that miata.
Kinda sucks for Mazda, first Best Motoring said they liked the Pontiac Solstice more, now this.
And moar rotary.
Suddenly it's not an MX-5, it's an RX-*insert*.
Why not MX-5 RE?
Because Mazda needs the car to sell.
Just checked and yea...
Solstice was faster and tsuchiya seemed to like it so much he questioned why it wasnt in japan.
Btw, I've been waiting for the chance to say this for my avatar's sake...
Believe it!
The what version?Did the Daewoo version ever make it to Japan? That'd be about as close as anyone would have gotten in Asia, I think.
Average age of toyota buyer is 62 and dropping. Average age of Scion buyer is 35 and rising.
Because Mazda needs the car to sell.
It is a Scion in America. Whoever said it shouldn't be? Your previous post sounds like you didn't realize it was a Scion in America.
ESZee, as for your stats, I do believe the average age for any new car buyer is generally going up. It makes sense that Scion's age is going up because it has become increasingly difficult for young people to buy new cars. Carmakers who market cars to exceedingly young buyers, like Scion, are basically aiming for a market that doesn't even exist. Unless the new car with a full warranty is cool and desirable for around $15,000, you're not going to snag buyers in their early 20s beyond the small market of college graduates who actually got decent-paying jobs right off the bat. The only people I know who can afford a new car beyond $15,000 are my friends who are working full time and not going to school. A person like me, who will be in school at least until 25, won't be in the market for these new cars until nearly 30.
That said, the Scion brand will get a swan song out of the FRS if they are lucky, if not that then I'd think the FRS will be the towing barge to carry the lump of garbage known as scion through the muddy waters of the USDM.
(edit:
Come to think of it, maybe the little box cars will continue to carry scion and the frs will be what revitalizes the brand?) 👍
From what I understand, they're killing the xB and xD. All of which seems very strange to me. The FR-S and iQ alone cannot carry the brand, particularly when most of their success has been built upon the xB from the very beginning. I've always liked the xA and xD personally, so its kinda sad that those types of "normal" vehicles will be gone.
It is a Scion in America. Whoever said it shouldn't be? Your previous post sounds like you didn't realize it was a Scion in America.
ESZee, as for your stats, I do believe the average age for any new car buyer is generally going up. It makes sense that Scion's age is going up because it has become increasingly difficult for young people to buy new cars. Carmakers who market cars to exceedingly young buyers, like Scion, are basically aiming for a market that doesn't even exist. Unless the new car with a full warranty is cool and desirable for around $15,000, you're not going to snag buyers in their early 20s beyond the small market of college graduates who actually got decent-paying jobs right off the bat. The only people I know who can afford a new car beyond $15,000 are my friends who are working full time and not going to school. A person like me, who will be in school at least until 25, won't be in the market for these new cars until nearly 30.