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OFFICIAL QUALI RESULTS. Le Mans GT GT

GT500

01. 2:41.549* - Nycrom - Lexus PETRONAS TOM'S SC430
02. 2:42.658* - C-Falcon89 - Honda RAYBRING NSX
03. 2:42.929* - Paginas - Nissan YELLOWHAT YMS TOMICA GT-R
04. 2:44.987* - GTP_monoha - Nissan MOTUL AUTECH GT-R
05. 2:45.999* - OwensRacing - Nissan CALSONIC IMPUL GT-R
06. 2:48.494* - chorda - Nissan MOTUL AUTECH GT-R
07. 2:50.014* - Joshua1994 - Lexus PETRONAS TOM'S SC430
08. 2:56.634* - UAE_ReDLiNe - Honda RAYBRING NSX
09. -:--.--- - TKNiNJ - Nissan XANAVI NISMO GT-R
10. -:--.--- - Schumi74 - Nissan XANAVI NISMO GT-R
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GT300

01. 2:52.573* - GTP_Aderrrm - Toyota APEX MR-S
02. 2:53.808* - Moleman - RE Amemaiya ASPARADRINK RX7 '06
03. 2:56.150* - GTP_Senninha - RE Amemaiya ASPARADRINK RX7 '06
04. 2:56.961* - KamyKaze1098 - Autobacs ARTA GARAIYA '08
05. 2:57.052* - SteelToedSloth - RE Amemaiya ASPARADRINK RX7 '06
06. 2:57.905* - Shrugging_Atlas - Toyota WEDSPORT CELICA
07. 2:58.815* - maximus254 - Autobacs ARTA GARAIYA '08
08. 3:05.106* - PatchySan - Lexus WEDSPORT IS350
09. -:--.--- - Scanny_Flick - Autobacs ARTA GARAIYA '08
10. -:--.--- - HortusIX - Autobacs ARTA GARAIYA '03
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DRIVERS (Click the names to see Driver Profiles!) (Click THIS link if you havent submitted one yet)

GT500 (Registration - OPEN!)

1. 
   Dennis H. | Denilson | PSN: chorda - Nissan MOTUL AUTECH GT-R
2. 
   Daniel Page| Paginas1 PSN: Paginas - Nissan YELLOWHAT YMS TOMICA GT-R
3. 
   Andrea G. | nycrom1971 | PSN: Nycrom - Lexus PETRONAS TOM'S SC430
4. 
   Josh Johnson | CaptainFalcon89 | PSN: C-Falcon89 - Honda RAYBRING NSX
5. 
   Jeff Owens | OwensRacing | PSN: OwensRacing - Nissan CALSONIC IMPUL GT-R
6. 
   Wardez - Nissan XANAVI NISMO GT-R
7. 
   Jacob | Centura | PSN: Centura - Nissan MOTUL AUTECH GT-R
8. 
   GTP_monoha - Nissan MOTUL AUTECH GT-R
9. 
   Vagabone - Nissan MOTUL AUTECH GT-R
10. 
    JPzer | PSN: JPzer - Nissan XANAVI NISMO GT-R
11. 
    MH4wheel - Lexus ENEOS SC430
12. 
    Joshua1994 - Lexus PETRONAS TOM'S SC430
13. 
    designnsight - Lexus ENEOS SC430
14. 
    Schumi74 - Nissan XANAVI NISMO GT-R
15. 
    UAE_ReDLiNe - Honda RAYBRING NSX
16. 
    TKNiNJ - Nissan XANAVI NISMO GT-R

GT300 (Registration - OPEN!)

1. 
   Eric M. | Masi_23 | PSN: GTP_Masicampo - Lexus WEDSPORT IS350
2. 
   Andy | Andil | PSN: Moleman - RE Amemiya ASPARADRINK RX7 '06
3. 
   David Koehler | Aizen93nasty | PSN: GTP_Aizen_93 - Autobacs ARTA GARAIYA '08
4. 
   Vítor S. | KamyKaze1098 | PSN: KamyKaze1098 - Autobacs ARTA GARAIYA '08
5. 
   Samuel Dyrborg | Competizione | PSN: GTP_Senninha - RE Amemiya ASPARADRINK RX7 '06
6. 
   Deon | African kat | PSN: GTP_african_kat - Autobacs ARTA GARAIYA '08
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   Javier | Jav | PSN: Jav122678 - RE Amemiya ASPARADRINK RX7 '06
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   Manny | doctsuru_69 | doctsuru_69 - Subaru CUSCO DUNLOP IMPREZA
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   Geoff Hooper | Scanny_Flick | PSN: Scanny_Flick - Autobacs ARTA GARAIYA '08
10. 
    Neomone - Toyota WEDSPORT CELICA
11. 
    GTP_Aderrrm - Toyota APEX MR-S '00
12. 
    donoman3000 - RE Amemiya ASPARADRINK RX7 '06
13. 
    Shrugging_Atlas - Toyota WEDSPORT CELICA
14. 
    SteelToedSloth |PSN: SteelToedSloth | RE Amemiya ASPARADRINK RX7
15. 
    maximus254 - Autobacs ARTA GARAIYA '08
16. 
    PatchySan - Lexus WEDSPORT IS350
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    HortusIX - Autobacs ARTA GARAIYA '03
18. 
    GTP_NJ_CAM - Lexus WEDSPORT IS350

Stewards

1. 
   Eric M. | Masi_23 | PSN: GTP_Masicampo - Organizer/Admin
2. 
   Dennis H. | Denilson | PSN: chorda - Co-Admin
3. 
   Daniel Page| Paginas1 | PSN: Paginas
   
4. 
   Andy | Andil | PSN: Moieman
5. 
   Andrea G. | nycrom1971 | PSN: Nycrom
6. 
   Imari | PSN: Neomone
7. 
   Wardez | PSN: Wardez

Important Note!

* You will be dropped from the official driver's list if you are noticeably inactive in the boards or have missed consecutive races without informing the organizer!
Also, please respect all members. Watch your language. Violators can be subjected to penalties that can ultimately result in the removal from the series *​

Race Rules

Eligible Cars



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Super Lap Qualifying


Procedure

• A group of drivers per class will be given 2 laps to set a qualifying lap.
• Laps will be run in 'Race' and will depend on track size. (Standard=2 laps)
• Laps will be monitored and watched by fellow competitors to validate cleanliness.
• The number of cars will depend on track size.
• Once the race has been commenced, cars will roll on their warm up lap.
• Cars must stagger a number seconds between each other to make room (about 20 seconds)
• Standard '2 wheel on track at all times' rule apply (Check Post 3 for Racing Conduct 'Ch.IV Track Contact')
• Once finished, spectators will declare if their competitor ran a clean or dirty lap
• If a protest arise for a doubtful or dirty lap, the replay will be saved and checked.
• If confirmed dirty, a timed penalty will be imposed depending on severity of offense. (Standard 5 seconds)
• The process will repeat until we reach the limit of available drivers (eg. 25 for each class)

Rules regarding qualy-procedure:

1. If a driver runs into ANY trouble during an official qualy-session, the session can under no circumstance restart.
2. If a driver does not complete the 4th lap, and the replay file is corrupt, he runs the risk of not getting an official time, EVEN if the
   lap was watched and verified clean by a spectator. (It's VERY important that you end the 4th lap)
3. If a driver disconnects during a session, he may reconnect and drive up to that point where he got DC'd. If the DC occurs while on the 1st (2nd lap) qualy-lap, he may restart and this time ONLY his 2nd (3rd lap) qualy-lap will be valid. The lap where the driver got DC'd counts as "dirty" with no registered lap-time.
4. If the car that DC's has any form of damage, but still are able to reconnect and restart his session, that drivers must damage his own car to the same grade of damage that the car had just before he got DC'd.
5. If a qualy-lap is "dirty", there are 2 possibilities.
   
   a. If a lap-time beyond any doubt was slower due to an "off track/dirty" situation, no penalty is given and the lap-time stays.
   b. If a lap-time could have gained any time what so ever due to an "off track/dirty" situation, a penalty of 5 seconds will be added to the lap-time.​

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Setting Grid Positions on Race Day

• First, you must remember your Grid Spot (Super Lap Qualifying)
• Hold your positions when countdown reaches zero.
• GT500 will make their way ONE BY ONE upfront and roll as a separate pack.
• Cars must roll in a maintained pace of 55 mph / 90 kmh
• Field will roll double file (form two lines)
• Odd numbers will start on the inside lane relative to turn 1.
• Even numbers will stay on the outside lane (Opposite side)
• The Pole sitter will decide the Green Flag before the Finish line
• You must maintain a minimum of One car length between you and the car in-front (same lane)
• One car length is minimum, meaning it's up to you how large the gap will be
• You must always maintain visual contact with the car beside you
• You're bumper must not go pass the rear bumper of the car beside you, dping so can be viewed as a false start and a penalty can come as a result.
• You must wait for the car beside you to move forward before you floor it!
• No passing before the start finish line! Penalties will be strictly enforced for false starts, illegal passing, and overall aggressive driving!

• The same procedure will be followed by the GT300 Cars
• GT300 pack should be at least 5 seconds behind the GT500 pack.

ADITIONAL GUIDLINE REGARDING START PROCEDURE
When the GT300's are sorted. GT300's will run one lap and park behind the GT500's prior the formationlap.

IMPORTANT: In case of a disonnect during the formationlap, the cars behind have to maintain their position, and can NOT move up the grid. Doing so can result in a penalty for breach of "jump start".


Diagram of an ideal rolling pack



Real Life Example of a Rolling Start:



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Raceday



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Points System

Race Percentage Completion

Bonus Points

Participation

Tie Breakers

• Points
• Wins
• Podiums
• Finished Races
• Bonus Points
• Race Starts

• CONNECT TIME AND RACE TIME
  
• ALL drivers must be in the room atleast 30 minutes prior the race. If not, you will be excluded from the race, and all drivers below will move up accordingly. We need to have 30 minutes to make sure that drivers have the time to change rooms/comming in from waiting lists.
  
• All drivers must stay tuned of the situation 30 minutes prior the race by looking in this thread. If a driver is missing, a steward or the host for that race where a driver is missing will state that wery clearly in this thread. If a driver is missing in D1, pole for D2 will move up to 7th in D1, and the first on the waiting list will move up to 7th in D2.
  
• This is a bit of a communication issue, and that's why I ask all drivers to stay sharp during the half-hour-mark prior the race to make the task as easy to manage as possible for us stewards.

Host Checklist

1. Setup the Raceroom atleast 1 hour prior race start (Connect Time).
*Type: "WSGTC ROUND x"
*Track for that week, set to 150 km. Round up the number of laps.
*Race For Real
*Number of Participants: 14 (16 for same class races)
*Mic/Headset: OFF
*High (Recommended)
*NOT fixed room

*Penalty: OFF
*Grid Start
*Grip Reduction on wet track/track edge: Real
*Damage: Heavy
*Race Finish Delay: 180 (max)
*Time/Weather on the enduros
*Bost: OFF

*532 hp limit (When the race is about to start, let the car on track in PP order. From lowest to highest)
*1050 kg limit
*Tyres: Racing Hard
*ASM: OFF
*TCS: OFF
*SRF: OFF
*Active Steering: OFF
*Driving Line: OFF

2. Post Room Number in the thread

3. Make sure to have the sarting grid close at hand. It will make it easy for you to answer any questions regarding grid spots.

4. If a driver is missing 30 minutes prior the race, you shall post in the thread that a driver from D2/Waiting list can enter. If the "original" driver shows up after you have posted that a spot is open, you have to kick the "original" driver.

5. Make sure to save the replay.

I. Gentleman's Rule

II. Passing

III. Defensive Driving

IV. Track Contact

V. Driver's Reputation








I. Offences

• Breach of the required vehicle specs and 'Race Rules' (minimum DQ)
• Breach of the 'Gentleman's Rule' (minimum 10 second penalty)
• Breach of Track Contact Rules (minimum 10 second penalty)
• False Start (Passing before start finish of Rolling Start) (minimum 10 second penalty)
• Avoidable contact resulting to damage (minimum 40 second penalty)
• Hindering drivers from overtaking by changing directions more than once (minimum 10 second penalty)
• Illegal blocking/forcing cars off track (minimum 10 second penalty)
• Not relinquishing gained position/s after leaving off track (minimum +25 second penalty)
• Rejoining track after an off without regards to oncoming traffic (minimum +10 second penalty)
• Overall aggressive driving (minimum warning)

II. Penalties


III. Reporting an Incident

I wont be able to make this week race guys ! Cya next week !

This will be a real draining race.

I hope La sarthe will be good to be after all the dramas I've had so far

Aye, Agreed. You've been like a streak of lightning on the track. I hope this week is better for you.

So ooh.... How do you guys 'save' on your tyre wear? Most of you seem to be able to do a 1 stopper for the 150km races, and I'm struggling with my tyres even with 2 stops. How do you guys do it?

hope to get my internet issue's fixed before the race

seriously hope it isnt dark, did a about 6 laps earlier just to see what its like, and man, straining my eyes from remembering where to brake, as in lighter conditions its easy to use features on the track etc, but nana not in the dark

Well, usually on the first, I would say 8 laps, I peddle. Not going full out.
Then, later in the race, when my tires are past they half way point, I reduce speed.
Really it's just about understanding how to use throttle control when your tires deteriorate to prolong your time before a pits needed.
On average I do my one pit on around the 17th lap or so, depending on the circumstances.

{EDIT} Also be wary of drifting while excellerating out of slow corners,
Burning your tires can lead to an early and race costing pit stop.

GenkoMax

Well, usually on the first, I would say 8 laps, I peddle. Not going full out.
Then, later in the race, when my tires are past they half way point, I reduce speed.
Really it's just about understanding how to use throttle control when your tires deteriorate to prolong your time before a pits needed.
On average I do my one pit on around the 17th lap or so, depending on the circumstances.

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Pretty much, this. While I may linger in the back field. At Fuji I only barely needed three stops. Just don't push your tires too hard, brake early or let off the throttle and coast. Keep as clean/stable a line as you can and don't take a turn too tight if you don't have too. Then when you feel you've preserved long enough you can get a little harder on them. Even with the loose ENEOS I almost kept it to two stops. I just couldn't last that end bit and had to pit at lap 29 I believe.

Otsdarva

Pretty much, this. While I may linger in the back field. At Fuji I only barely needed three stops. Just don't push your tires too hard, brake early or let off the throttle and coast. Keep as stable as you can and don't take the turn too tight if you don't have too. Then when you feel you've preserved long enough you can get a little harder on them. Even with the loose ENEOS I almost kept it to two stops. I just couldn't last that end bit and had to pit at lap 30 I believe.

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fuji was pretty light for pits imo, only did two, and the first because of damage. maaybe could of pushed it to one with the final 5 laps being a few seconds slower on average

G'day there racers. Don't forget, if you are looking for a bit of extra speed from your car, head on down to Lion's Den Performance (link in sig), where I now have 3 Super GT tunes, the NSX, R35 GT-R and SC430. Please note, the NSX gear ratios are yet to be updated and will be soon. All 3 tunes are found in Lion's Den Performance Racing, which is post #2. Let me know how it goes if you do happen to find yourself behind the wheel of an LDP enhanced race car.

O: Commercial marketing! Shame on you!
I kid,

Can't wait for this, will be a great race!

put me on the waiting list atm or can i do qualy and in my own room and then upload it here on gtp so all can see it this is only if i dont get my issues sorted out

btw this is not to be hard on ldp tunes i have not tryed them out but i make a new tune to every track we uses in the series

Denilson

And if you REALLY must know the standings, just look up the OFFICIAL results n the previous threads and do the math.

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I just looked through the two previous threads and couldn't find the official Indy GT300 results anywhere. Only GT500.

competizione

btw this is not to be hard on ldp tunes i have not tryed them out but i make a new tune to every track we uses in the series

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I would probably do this as well, expecially for Final Drive on gear ratios. My tunes will work on a lot of tracks, and be a very good starting point for some others.

How can a tune work for Laguna Seca and Suzuka? I don't doubt your tuning skills, but one tune just can't be enough for a championship like this. I give my car a new setup for each track.

WANTED: GT300 results from Indy.

Or did a steward PM them to Masi?

Denilson

How can a tune work for Laguna Seca and Suzuka? I don't doubt your tuning skills, but one tune just can't be enough for a championship like this. I give my car a new setup for each track.

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Yeah, but his tune is probably better for both those tracks than the stock tune. He didn't say it was perfect, he said it would be decent. Some people have no idea about tuning and using Paulie's tune is a good start for them.

I think he's done a nice thing by doing the tunes for people, and he's gone out of his way to come here and point out their availability to people who might be interested. Stop looking gift horses in the mouth.

Imari

Yeah, but his tune is probably better for both those tracks than the stock tune. He didn't say it was perfect, he said it would be decent. Some people have no idea about tuning and using Paulie's tune is a good start for them.

I think he's done a nice thing by doing the tunes for people, and he's gone out of his way to come here and point out their availability to people who might be interested. Stop looking gift horses in the mouth.

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Are you saying that I doubt him? I have no reason to. I think they are doing a great job, and as you say, it might work for drivers who need help with a base tune. It's just that my setups are completeley different for different tracks. I have nothing that could be labled as a "base tune". Some tracks I use a soft setup, others a hard setup. Some a low front, some a low rear. Some low LSD settings, some high LSD settings. Some toe in, some toe out. Different springrates and so on.
And I can't see any other way to get good setups than to laborate yourself and see what different settings does to your car.

I'm simply saying that 1 tune can't be enough for a 10 race championship, no more, no less.

But if someone does not have a clue, trying a decent setup that somewhat works for all tracks might be a good start, but it will not make him competative in the long run.

Paulie

I would probably do this as well, expecially for Final Drive on gear ratios. My tunes will work on a lot of tracks, and be a very good starting point for some others.

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Denilson

How can a tune work for Laguna Seca and Suzuka? I don't doubt your tuning skills, but one tune just can't be enough for a championship like this. I give my car a new setup for each track.

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I stand by my original statement, although other than possible gear ratios, I would think a Laguna Seca and Suzuka setup are very similar if not identical anyway, other than the cork screw pretty much all the corners are of a similar type, but I tune compliancy over bumps in to all my cars. Honestly, with race cars I rarely get a gain from lowering them much anyway, they're already so low that lowering them further can result in not enough weight transfer.
How about you try one of my cars at both tracks without changing the setup? Gear ratios might be whack for those circuits (they tend to suit tracks like Fuji in my race cars). You may be surprised.
PS- If you're having that many different setups for different tracks varying by that much, the only thing I can suggest to that is you're skinning the same cat in different ways to get the same result.
Editation: OK so I just tested my NSX tune at Laguna Seca, Suzuka and just for kicks, Trial Mountain- a completely different circuit. I wouldn't have changed a thing at any of those tracks (being from a tune created on Fuji Speedway with shocky testing done at Trial Mountain), except perhaps gear ratios at Laguna Seca. I was using Racing Hard tyres so keeping the same ratios and using it like a 5spd at Suzuka and Trial Mountain was better to reduce wheelspin and unnecessary shifting. There are 2 main reasons for this. One is, unlike in real life, we're not competing with varying track surfaces, varying temperatures or any of that stuff that real life teams do. Two is, it's a race car. It has the downforce to keep it stuck to the road, and the racing tyres to keep it glued in corners. I know with my road cars on Sports Tyres I'd quite often be changing brake balance (well for some of them at least) from track to track. Anyways, to each his own, I never came in here and said my tunes are the be all end all, half of people possibly won't like them if they have a different driving style anyway.

Edit 2: Actually there is another thing that affects real life teams, downforce. Unless you're on an oval track pretty much maximum downforce yields the most speed at every track in the game, but in real life teams change downforce settings depending on whether they want top speed or corner drive, or also depending on how much cooling they require (they can get more downforce by partially blocking off cooling ducts), which of course changes the balance of the car.

Edit 3: Actually on reflection, I may have flicked the front brake balance up a notch for Trial Mountain for a race, but for qualifying would probably still have left it the same.

As I said, I don't doubt your tuning skills.

You might be right with that I'm acheiving the same end result with different tunes... But I don't think so.

I also try not to lower my car to much. Most of the time I run -6/-7 give or take. But something that I really do change a lot is the camber, brake balance, dampers and toe in/out.

Since I'm driving the AUTEC MOTUL GT-R a lot of effort is put in to reduce the front tyre wear. By tweaking a bit in combination of smooth driving, I can get the tyres to wear pretty even. The major problem is to keep the cool in the race to make it happen

LOL, I know that feeling. Tried driving the AU V8 Supercar? You can yield more speed with the stock setup by driving it hard, but boy does it kill the tyres. Easing back ever so slightly will make them last much longer.

Denilson

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Are you saying that I doubt him? I have no reason to.

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The phrase means don't complain about things that people give you for free.

Complain?

I'm interested in tuning and started a discussion about it since Paulie popped his head in. Can't see any problems wth that.
My point of view: 1 tune can't be good enough. I'm not saying it's not, I'm saying I don't think it is.

Denilson

WANTED: GT300 results from Indy.

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Edit: Nevermind, Paginas posted the results a few posts below.

Also btw, I've been trying to keep track of results in my own spreadsheet - I think this is up to date and correct: https://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0AtPX8ScVqTrJdC1NMDM4WGo2QU9mekJQbjdQQVkyd0E&hl=en#gid=0 - for quick reference really, don't use my table as anything official.