Shumacher Poll

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Was Michael Schumacher off pace in Shanghai because:

  • He needs more time to sort out his car to his driving style.

    Votes: 38 48.1%

  • His neck is still bothering him.

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • He's been out a few seasons and needs a few more races to catch up.

    Votes: 26 32.9%

  • His just too old and has lost his Mojo.

    Votes: 15 19.0%
  • Total voters
    79
Poll option #5 - he's not off his pace, this is the first season he has a truly competitive teammate and a car that doesn't automatically give podium finishes so he's in for a nasty surprise?
 
Was going to say that. He's in a car that's not quite top line, with a team not designed around him, and with a team mate who is younger and hungrier than he is.
 
I think till next year where his input is given for next years car we won't see much from him. The car just doesn't suit him and he can't get it set up how he wants.
 
He's used to having the car designed around his style of driving and having the team molded to his way of doing things. The cars have changed quite a lot since he last drove and this one just doesn't suit him at the moment. Once the European races begin and the team has more chance of developing the car for his needs he'll fare better. Having said that, there are so many better drivers in potential race winning cars this season than i can ever remember before. He'll have his work cut-out for him even if he gets a car he can be competitive in.
 
I think its part the car and part him.

The reason i think its part him is because he left the sport when drivng aids were still alowed and now they are not so he is putting a little too much throttle on during corners however it will come to him
 
haitch40
The reason i think its part him is because he left the sport when drivng aids were still alowed and now they are not so he is putting a little too much throttle on during corners however it will come to him
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You do realise that traction control was banned between 1993 and 2000, so he has driven about half of his races without it...
 
daan
You do realise that traction control was banned between 1993 and 2000, so he has driven about half of his races without it...
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Oh right i didn't realise. I was very young then. All of it is the car then.
 
I really think it's a combination of #1 and #3... not surprising at all he's not up with Rossberg atm. Also Rossberg is really strong.

Traction controll doesn't make much difference, I think the smaller front tires are bothering him much more, unfortunately he's no friend of understeer. :scared:
 
He has to adapt to car, as car was not built for him specifically. Give it a season and see what the results are....

Also his neck may indeed be bothering him (I know my old injuries do :))
 
haitch40
I think its part the car and part him.

The reason i think its part him is because he left the sport when drivng aids were still alowed and now they are not so he is putting a little too much throttle on during corners however it will come to him
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It's because of the car. Both Rossberg and Schumacher complained because of problems with accelerating out of the corners. Also, he needs to adapt to his new team, because he has been with Ferrari for such a long time.
 
magicalgin
It's because of the car. Both Rossberg and Schumacher complained because of problems with accelerating out of the corners. Also, he needs to adapt to his new team, because he has been with Ferrari for such a long time.
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Well, since there's quite a difference between te drivers' scores. it can't be all down to the car. I think he's rusty, and doesn't want to put in quite as much effort as before.
 
GilesGuthrie
Well, since there's quite a difference between te drivers' scores. it can't be all down to the car. I think he's rusty, and doesn't want to put in quite as much effort as before.
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Ofcourse he's rusty, that can't be denied. He hasn't been racing competitively since he stopped right? But atleast his engine isn't blowing up like the Ferrari engines...
 
Mercedes' Norbert Haug suggested after the Chinese grand prix, where the seven time world champion was comprehensively beaten all weekend by his teammate, that the 41-year-old's actual chassis is carrying an inherent problem.

"I think we need to replace his chassis for Barcelona," Haug is quoted as saying by the German broadcaster Sky.
 
I've voted for 'He's been out a few seasons and needs a few more races to catch up'.

It just sounds lame for a seven-time world champion and the brilliant master mind to all of a sudden not be able to set a car up.
 
I'm sorry people, but no matter what excuse you want to think up for him, Schumacher is not the man he once was. Rusty just doesn't cut it after 4 races, I mean come on, its only been 3 years. Lauda came back after a similar amount of time and won his 3rd race, ok he wasn't as old but he wasn't exactly doing much racing in his short retirement! Not to mention Schumacher enjoyed a full testing programme, a GP3 test and various karting events. Plus he has kept a head for racing by competing in the ROC and those motorbike outings.

There have also been old drivers before who have delivered, although not really in the same circumstances.

Basically, Schumacher is an old(er) man now, he doesn't have the killer edge to him because he has nothing to prove. In 1991, he had a goal - to win, to be world champion. What does he have now?

The Schumacher of old wouldn't be hiding behind excuses like "the car doesn't feel right" and so on - he would drive around it. He has had understeer problems in many cars before and has driven around the problem to great effect...it was part of what made him such a formiddable driver.
I just don't think Schumacher is as mentally committed as he once was, he's not a young man out to prove anything, he's just here to enjoy his status and the F1 atmosphere.
Not to say I don't think he's trying to beat the younger guys or he doesn't want to win, just I don't think he has the killer drive now. It was noted on the BBC by Coulthard that he definitely has changed in interviews these days - before he would be short answers and no-time-for-this attitude whereas now he's far more relaxed.

"He has to adapt to the car", "the car will be fixed later on"...these are not comments I would attribute to the Schumacher of old. Rusty? 10 years out of motorsport-Badoer is rusty.
 
oh oh ooh, can I have another go?........He's saving his engines. :crazy: :lol: He's still got it.
 
Heh, to be fair to Schumacher, I think he's done a reasonable job so far if you view him as an old driver returning next to a highly rated teammate, like if this was de La Rosa or Wurz, it would be a respectable job. Its just that Schumacher has a far greater reputation than pretty much anyone that could possibly return.

Its like if Senna had retired and came back - anything less than victory is just not Senna. In the same way, Schumacher is not Schumacher if he isn't going all-out to win. I may not have much love for the guy and his cheating tactics, but he certainly did have a determination to him that gave him all those stats. He doesn't come across the same anymore and I put this down to him being older and not having the same priorities in life.

I didn't think he woud be beating Rosberg yet, but I just don't get the same vibes from him like we used to. Analysing his onboards also shows a lack of commitment in the car - be this a problem with setup or whatever, why isn't Schumacher driving around it like he used to?
If he is indeed rusty - how long is long enough to get back in the groove? Is it being rusty that will be the excuse for the whole season?

I would also like to point out that the 1991 Jordan, 1991 Benetton and 1996 Ferrari were not designed around Schumacher and what did he manage with those cars?
 
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I think it's a combination of options 1 and 3

I hope that all of a sudden everything just clicks into place for him & he can at least be as competitive as Nico. Norbert Haug alluded to something possibly not being right with the car on the BBC forum after the race, saying that they wouldn't know for sure until they got it back to the factory but he didn't want to speculate too much about it.
 
Well his got 3 weeks 'til Spain maybe he can practice with GT5p in the Ferrari. But seriously I think he is being conservative with his driving just wanting to finish the race for points and not mess up by pushing too hard. He'll know when the car is right for him and maybe he will surprise everyone. Maybe? :nervous:
 
I'm thinking it could either be either 1 or 3. Maybe he's still used to driving Ferraris. Then again, it's been a while since he's driven F1 cars.
 
If he hasnt improved by the end of the season then start to worry, if he is nowhere next season then its all over i think. Im gonna give him some more time, but I find it extremely strange to see him struggle so much with his car in China, it was like he was driving a completly different car to rosberg. Is schmuacher that much worse? or is something else causing it?
 

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