2009 Abu Dhabi Grand Prix

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timeattack07gt
:lol: I shouldn't even waste my time responding to your garbage...I mean really?

BGP has next to no chance of winning unless Hamilton has major issues...that's just being realistic, not being biased or being a fanboy as you are, thinking Brawn will pull off the win lol. Both Brawn cars have less fuel than the 3 cars in front...are slower than the P1 car by nearly a full second per lap, and don't have KERS to help them at the start or to get around. Your logic makes great sense and is very reasonable 👍

Kobyashi for the win! "Anything can happen, and in F1 it usually does" :lol: Blah Blah Blah!!!
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I don't know why you have to comment on predictions in the first place, after all I cannot be wrong yet can I?
I wasn't trying to argue that Hamilton won't win and his chances are nil, I was simply stating a prediction. There is no reasoning behind it beyond it being a wild prediction.

But I guess apparently I'm the one who picks apart posts so I'll just stop responding to your drivel.
 
Ardius
I don't know why you have to comment on predictions in the first place, after all I cannot be wrong yet can I?
I wasn't trying to argue that Hamilton won't win and his chances are nil, I was simply stating a prediction. There is no reasoning behind it beyond it being a wild prediction.

But I guess apparently I'm the one who picks apart posts so I'll just stop responding to your drivel.
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And I was just responding to your baseless and unreasonable prediction 👍 Carry on :lol: Don't get upset...you were the one trying to defend it as if you had some type of valid reasoning as to why you predicted such, beyond looking into your crystal ball of delusion :dunce:
 
lpb-nissan-gt-r
Can you guys just agree to disagree, and will someone answer my question !.
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As seen on the rear wing here:
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Its been on the car since Bahrain, although its been altered a couple of times (e.g. Terminator Salvation livery).
 
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Hmmm,looking at the fuell loads i wouldn't count out Kimi for a podium....
He is clearly running a 1 stopper as opposed to all the 2 stoppers in front of him...

If he can make a good start,or has a bit of luck with a few guys running eachother of in the first few laps,he could do verry wel as his laptimes were not far off the much lighter racers in front of him.

Also a safety car period could be of much use for him!


Maybe i am hoping too much,but we have seen Ferrari/Kimi do very well starting a little further back than expected this year...


Can't wait for the race tomorrow thats for sure,i am also thinking that Lewis has the best chance for the win,but this all depends how the race will devellop and if he will be able to be faster than the Redbulls the whole race...


I love the day into night settings though...beautifull with the low big red sun!!...




spyrrari.
 
yeti
Indeed - he prefers an understeery car...

C.
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After questioning me, you're confirming this for what reason? :lol:

Let me add that the only reason most people jump on the bandwagon that Alonso likes an understeering set-up is because of the specific traits of the Renault R25/R26-Michelin tire. Having understeer dialed in with this specific chassis and tire (lots of grip w/ soft sidewall) allowed for aggressive transient loading (to get the rear to rotate upon turn in) for slower corners to take advantage of the tires characteristics. Once the car returned to a steady/neutral state mid corner, the understeer dialed in made the cars grip out of the corners very good. This made it look as if he liked an understeering set-up, when in fact this was the fastest set-up with the given tire. Once the control tire was introduced he was unable to use the same style and was forced to adapt to a much smoother traditional style with a more traditional set-up for his natural driving style (nuetral...although more so neutral to oversteer balance with the new slicks), as the control Bridgestones couldn't handle such large build ups in slip angle so abruptly ,due to their rather stiff constructions and general lack of outright grip.
 
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spyrrari
Hmmm,looking at the fuell loads i wouldn't count out Kimi for a podium....
He is clearly running a 1 stopper as opposed to all the 2 stoppers in front of him...

If he can make a good start,or has a bit of luck with a few guys running eachother of in the first few laps,he could do verry wel as his laptimes were not far off the much lighter racers in front of him.

Also a safety car period could be of much use for him!


Maybe i am hoping too much,but we have seen Ferrari/Kimi do very well starting a little further back than expected this year...
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I think Kimi has a good chance of making up a few places in the first lap, even with a heavy fuel load. Both BMW's and Buemi are a fair bit slower on top speed, so a good launch and both back straights, could be a leap for him up the placings.

Possibly the only downfall is a wild rookie beside him.:scared:

spyrrari
Can't wait for the race tomorrow thats for sure,i am also thinking that Lewis has the best chance for the win,but this all depends how the race will devellop and if he will be able to be faster than the Redbulls the whole race...
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BGP, McLaren and Red Bull all seem to have gone with a fairly different setup with Red Bull being left in the others wake down the straights, but make the difference up in the the more twisty sectors. Lewis has the best of both worlds, so it's going to be up to him to look after his tyres if he wants this win.
It also comes down to how much the track rubbers up in the race and how this effects the individual setups. I'm thinking those who went for a slightly higher wing setting, will gain the most from this.

spyrrari
I love the day into night settings though...beautifull with the low big red sun!!...




spyrrari.
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Yes fantastic , but these middle Eastern tracks look a bit weird from the distant aerial. Just a strange look, giant cruise ships, massive structures and lights and ashphalt in the middle of ..well nowhere.
I guess the great movie line "Build it and they will come " applies to this.:D
 
yeti
Fail.

C.
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I took that out...don't think it's necessary considering the insecurity around here :sick: People like you rather argue to try and make a point when you don't even have your facts straight to begin with...

I mean you question me on something I said, despite being correct, yet act as if nothing ever happened and I should continually just go with your BS flow leading to nowhere :lol: :odd:
 
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Ok folks, let's get back to attacking people's arguments and opinions, rather than the people presenting the argument or opinion. 👍
 
Ardius
Its been on the car since Bahrain, although its been altered a couple of times (e.g. Terminator Salvation livery).
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Actually, It's been rotated through a few times - in Japan, it was replaced by Virgin Atlantic, for instance.

But that's moot point.
 
timeattack07gt
And And being able to adapt (which is my main argument) to a cars handling traits is just as important as anything else. Alonso is probably the best at extracting the maximum potential out of any car he is given, although he likes a balanced car, he has absolutely no problem handling a loose rear end or understeer. Most of the drivers who like a understeer dialed in simply don't have as much talent as the drivers who can handle a loose rear...because the understeering car is the easiest car to drive, and in most cases slower.
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Which is the whole problem with the current Ferrari... even Ferrari's regular drivers have had problems coming to terms with the car, and they're the ones with the most seat time. Given that Fisichella still hasn't "gotten it" after just a few races, with absolutely no testing allowed between races, is forgiveable.

And the fact that he hasn't spin out 1,000,000 times like Badoer did, despite Badoer actually being a test driver for the said car, indicates that Fisi has potential in the organization.

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Kobayashi in the Toyota, though... great performance... though I have a feeling the Toyota is quite forgiving... like the Renault... only it's forgiving and relatively quick.

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Oh... and Alonso took nearly half a season in the McLaren before he began to finally dominate his team-mate... though whether that says anything about car setting bias, supposed team bias or driver skill... will always be open to speculation. Still an Alonso fan, though.
 
So, what are our thoughts on the track?

Personally, I agree with Jack Stewart: not an instant classic, but for what it is, it's good. It's up there with Sepang and Istanbul as one of Tilke's better circuits.
 
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Personally, I agree with Jack Stewart: not an instant classic, but for what it is, it's good. It's up there with Sepang and Istanbul as one of Tilke's better circuits.
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I'd agree with that. And on a side-note, the track action looks great in true HD for the first time!
 
Jackington
And on a side-note, the track action looks great in true HD for the first time!
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Not just in HD, but at sunset. I saw some of the photos uploaded up at F1 Fanatic, and some of them are just jaw-droppingly gorgeous. My current backround is Rubens Barrichello driving at sunset on what looks like solid gold. Some of the other photos - especially the ones taken around the hotel - look like concept art for a James Bond movie or a science fiction film.

Abu Dhabi is, hands down, one of the most incredible-looking venues the sport has ever been to. It's right up there with Monaco and the Nurburgring and Spa.
 
Vettel: You and your damn button :mad:...you stole pole from me you a-hole!

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Looks like there really wont be any real fight for the win tonight. Hamilton will run away with it in his dominant Mclaren. The Red Bulls should be 2nd and 3rd if they keep out of trouble and avoid problems.

Bring on 2010!
 
SagarisGTB
Looks like there really wont be any real fight for the win tonight. Hamilton will run away with it in his dominant Mclaren. The Red Bulls should be 2nd and 3rd if they keep out of trouble and avoid problems.

Bring on 2010!
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Hamilton is lighter than everyone except Button and Barrichello. It may not be the runaway victory that you're anticipating.
 
At around 2.7 kg per lap, Hamilton will stop 1 lap before Webber, then Vettel another lap later. But it depends on your consumption rate and driving style and maybe another lap will be squeezed out from ...someone.
 
You'll be lucky to get A stream. High quality should just be a nice surprise if you get it.
 
Last one from BMW for us... Goodbye to them :(

Anyway, it's going to be a good race for sure and I think Hamilton could pull away as soon as the race starts and the Brawns are running light though :( Lewis is light too... The lightest car on the grid is Kubica so I expect him to come in first. The race will go through the floodlight and it's also a problem to gain tyre temperature and it doesn't sound good for the Brawns. Tyre choice?? I don't know.... I have high hopes for Kubica from BMW. I have no comment for Ferrari...
 
Hamilton's gonna win this - look out for Kovaleinen - his car should be quick from the back... hopefully entertaining.

The RedBulls seemed to only work when the track was a bit cooler... I think they might struggle at the beginning but get stronger at the end.

C.
 
yeti
The RedBulls seemed to only work when the track was a bit cooler... I think they might struggle at the beginning but get stronger at the end.

C.
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Hopefully, fingers crossed, they can prove you wrong sir and get right on the backside of Hamilton.

Just one problem, that damn little button that Hamilton has called a KERS button, Webber and Vettel are gonna have to muller him in the corners
 

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