2011 Formula One Grand Prix de Monaco

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On that note, it seems clear that Red Bull still possess this advantage with their exhaust mapping that they unleash for Q3 only. Even Webber improved by 7 tenths over Q2, despite being half a second down on his team mate. What's strange about this is that Renault don't enjoy this same characteristic with their cars in qualifying which is kind of hard to reconcile. But if it's not the exhaust, what else is it? :confused:

I think their clear advantage in qualy boils down to two things mainly - I think it's a combination of the RB7's relatively extreme/large DRS element and how they are able to get the engine mapping/blown diffuser to work in unison with it, in order to maintain the aero balance when the rear flap is activated in qualy (the RB7 is able to open the DRS very early in a corner compared to most). Of course in the race most of this advantage is nullified, as the DRS can only be used to overtake...which might explain what we are seeing.
 
Sucks for Lewis, hopefully Jenson can get a good start and win.

Side note: Why do the McLaren's have Verizon on their rear wings? I know Vodafone owns part of them but fairly certain Verizon is US only.:confused: Than again Sauber has various brands of America Movil on their cars.
 
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Perez seemed to have his floor scraping the ground pretty hard coming out of the tunnel which I think put him into a strange approach to the braking zone for the chicane and also hit the bump at a weird angle which appeared to lock the rear brakes and fire him into the wall. Seeing replays that high tech barrier as well as the fact they took the speed bumps out after the Rosberg accident made sure that he will be racing again this season and possibly saved his life. It really is a testament to how safe the sport has become.
 
“He was taken to hospital in Monaco where he underwent an extensive examination. The medical staff informed the Sauber F1 Team that he escaped the shunt with concussion and a bruised thigh. Perez will remain in hospital at least overnight and will definitely not start the race on Sunday.”

From formula1.com
 
Can anyone replace Perez or is that not allowed as it was after quali?

No, no team can field a driver change after FP3 even if someone was involved in an incident and will not start, still the team cannot replace the driver seat with someone else unless it happened on Thursday. Or in this case he has already taken part in the Qualifying...
 
I think their clear advantage in qualy boils down to two things mainly - I think it's a combination of the RB7's relatively extreme/large DRS element and how they are able to get the engine mapping/blown diffuser to work in unison with it, in order to maintain the aero balance when the rear flap is activated in qualy (the RB7 is able to open the DRS very early in a corner compared to most). Of course in the race most of this advantage is nullified, as the DRS can only be used to overtake...which might explain what we are seeing.

Yes, I agree the DRS is buying them an advantage in qualifying as a whole but they've got something else going on altogether in Q3 especially, which I think is surely down to the engine mapping far more than anything else. They always produce a huge amount of lap time in that session whereas no one else makes those sorts of gains. At other tracks, as you say this advantage is multiplied with the ability to get on the DRS sooner, but that could only be buying a tiny advantage at Monaco, and yet they seemed to pull just as much lap time out of the bag in Q3 today as they have at previous races which makes me think it's all down to this engine mapping. Plus, this was a feature in 2010 as well without any DRS.

Can't wait for Silverstone to see if this is still happening. Unfortunately, the title race may virtually be over by then :(
 
I saw that too. I know he only got one lap in during qualifying and he cut the chicane doing it, but invoking a penalty for it is stupid. I mean the lap shouldn't have counted in the first place which would leave him starting in 10th anyway.

The penalty is the time being deleted but I think he starts ahead of Perez due to car number but not sure on that. It doesn't matter though as Perez is not starting. I think this time deletion could be a blessing in disguise for Lewis as if McLaren guys start Lewis on the Prime (Soft) tyre, then he could have a good chance of winning the GP provided he does not lose to much time behind Maldonado. If he can go a lot longer than the front runners then it could give him possiblity of winning and finishing on the option tyres will give him the opportunity to attack if he is still further back. I will be happy if Lewis picks up good points and avoids binning the car overtaking or going into barriers trying to hard.

Perez must be feeling further down now like myself after seeing the Champions League Final. Not a good day but at least he is OK which is the main thing.
 
The penalty is the time being deleted but I think he starts ahead of Perez due to car number but not sure on that. It doesn't matter though as Perez is not starting. I think this time deletion could be a blessing in disguise for Lewis as if McLaren guys start Lewis on the Prime (Soft) tyre, then he could have a good chance of winning the GP provided he does not lose to much time behind Maldonado. If he can go a lot longer than the front runners then it could give him possiblity of winning and finishing on the option tyres will give him the opportunity to attack if he is still further back. I will be happy if Lewis picks up good points and avoids binning the car overtaking or going into barriers trying to hard.

Perez must be feeling further down now like myself after seeing the Champions League Final. Not a good day but at least he is OK which is the main thing.

Yeah I think had Perez set a lap Lewis would start from 10th place.

Tough luck about United mate,but Barca are un stoppable
 
This might have already been asked but is there ANY chance that Perez will be able to compete tomorrow if he's well enough or is there some rule that won't allow him to?
 
This might have already been asked but is there ANY chance that Perez will be able to compete tomorrow if he's well enough or is there some rule that won't allow him to?

I'm not sure if there's a rule for this but he has a concussion and a bruise on his tighs. Since he has a concussion whether it's bad or not he will not be able to race on behalf of the medical decision. A concussion could take 3 days to a week or even a month but considering Perez is an athlete and a very strong man, he could get rid of it in within just a week...
 
Yeah I think had Perez set a lap Lewis would start from 10th place.

Tough luck about United mate,but Barca are un stoppable

Yep he would have as Lewis would have been classified as not setting a time but wouldn't matter as he would not be starting.

Disappointed with Evra as he was the weak link in the defense I feel but lost against a better team so no shame in that and got a bit lucky with the goal.

This might have already been asked but is there ANY chance that Perez will be able to compete tomorrow if he's well enough or is there some rule that won't allow him to?

No chance.

NOTE TO THE MEDIA
SERGIO PEREZ’s ACCIDENT
UPDATE

Monaco, May 28th - Sauber F1 Team driver Sergio Pérez was this evening visited by FIA President Jean Todt and FIA medical staff. The Sauber driver spoke to the President and also to doctors at Princesse Grace Hospital, who again confirmed that he had suffered a concussion but no more serious injuries in his accident during qualiying. Pérez will remain in hospital overnight and tomorrow.

Pérez will not drive in the FIA F1 2011 Monaco Grand Prix.

Matteo Bonciani
F1 Head of Communications and Press Delegate
 

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I already wanted to stab Hamilton in the neck with a wine glass for throwing away the entire race weekend when I thought he was starting seventh. He really should have taken pole, and very possibly the win to follow, but instead he waited in Q3 and it bit him hard in the diffuser.*

* The diffuser reference isn't a literal reference to part of the car, but rather was meant to be a more PG alternative to what I wanted to use, which was a colorful term for the human posterior.
 
I'm not sure if there's a rule for this but he has a concussion and a bruise on his tighs. Since he has a concussion whether it's bad or not he will not be able to race on behalf of the medical decision. A concussion could take 3 days to a week or even a month but considering Perez is an athlete and a very strong man, he could get rid of it in within just a week...

Oh right, I thought maybe there was some rule that says if you have an impact over X amount of G you automatically are not allowed to be in a car for 48 hours or something.

Its clear now that he's not racing anyway, its a shame because he was really on it in qualifying.

Robin.
 
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I already wanted to stab Hamilton in the neck with a wine glass for throwing away the entire race weekend when I thought he was starting seventh. He really should have taken pole, and very possibly the win to follow, but instead he waited in Q3 and it bit him hard in the diffuser.*

It wasn't Hamilton's decision to go out late during Q3, he has said in an interview that it was the engineer's decision and he went along with it. I don't think we'll be seeing McLaren making this mistake again for quite a while.
 
Poor Perez - really glad he came out of that one ok though

Is the exit from the tunnel just complete crap? Seems like everyone is taken off guard as they fly down the hill. I heard there was a major truck fire a few days before the race weekend started and they had to repave a good portion of road. Seems like they didn't do a good job smoothing it out...
 
Poor Perez - really glad he came out of that one ok though

Is the exit from the tunnel just complete crap? Seems like everyone is taken off guard as they fly down the hill. I heard there was a major truck fire a few days before the race weekend started and they had to repave a good portion of road. Seems like they didn't do a good job smoothing it out...

That was in to San Devote, the first corner. But it does seem very strange to see three cars all crashing at the same place with very similar accidents. Another thing, the BBC website is now showing Hamilton as starting in 10th place, does this mean a space will be left for where Perez would have been?
 
A concussion could take 3 days to a week or even a month but considering Perez is an athlete and a very strong man, he could get rid of it in within just a week...

Does not matter if he is a strong man and an athlete. A concussion is still a concussion, it's not something you can just sleep off and be healed in a week. Being athletic has no bearing on the ability to heal brain bruising.

Haven't heard of the severity of the concussion, hopefully he doesn't have any long term effects. Here's hoping that he makes a full recovery.
 
That was in to San Devote, the first corner. But it does seem very strange to see three cars all crashing at the same place with very similar accidents. Another thing, the BBC website is now showing Hamilton as starting in 10th place, does this mean a space will be left for where Perez would have been?

Yes, Perez's grid slot will be empty as he is, in theory, going to start from the pitlane. He's not of course - but that's how it works.

Re: the tunnel exit; it seems that people are running the cars very low and that the bump has just caught a few of them out. It's not an unusual type of accident there by any means.

I worry about how the cars will handle there on full fuel... but you should remember that there have been three 'offs' there in a weekend of 500+ laps. That's less than at many race weekends. The difference is that at Monaco you notice the offs because there's nowhere for the car to go.
 
Don't think I'll be staying up for this one. Vettel leads into the first corner. Procession. Vettel wins. Championship nudges closer to being over by July.
 
Don't think I'll be staying up for this one. Vettel leads into the first corner. Procession. Vettel wins. Championship nudges closer to being over by July.

Sadly it would take a mini miracle for that not to happen .

Oh and I don't get the Hate about Mclaren's late Q3 entry call ,I mean yes it was risky but C'mon there were only 10 cars left and all of them are fantastic drivers so it was really an unlucky thing that Happened there.

Anyway Can't say I am looking forward to Tomorrow but I'll watch it none the less maybe Fernando or Jenson can challenge Vet........eh ok Never mind
 
Let's leave Alonso's crazy pass outta that. His tires just went. Sorry, should have said Generally.

and I got it of watching the replays and then the BBC ^^
Not taking away anything from Hamilton, he is a fantastic driver... but I preferred him last year... where he blamed it on himself... maybe he's just going through a phase where he thinks he should be winning everything not Vettel, I dunno...

And yes, I believe Massa moved out the way when it was safe to and as quickly as he could, so Lewis' gesture was uncalled for. Then the next lap he had the red flags because of Perez's nasty crash, which I am glad that he came away from relatively unhurt.

Ah. That part. Ferrari got really lucky they didn't get called out for it. Massa did the best he could, but the team released him right in front of a man doing his flying lap. Not the first Ferrari car release blunder this season... They're lucky they didn't release him a split second later, otherwise the stewards would have surely penalized them.

Sadly it would take a mini miracle for that not to happen .

Oh and I don't get the Hate about Mclaren's late Q3 entry call ,I mean yes it was risky but C'mon there were only 10 cars left and all of them are fantastic drivers so it was really an unlucky thing that Happened there.

Anyway Can't say I am looking forward to Tomorrow but I'll watch it none the less maybe Fernando or Jenson can challenge Vet........eh ok Never mind

How many times has McLaren been caught out for not doing a banker lap? Lots. This isn't the first time... And given the nature of this circuit... they should have hedged their bets. Lewis could win here from second. Given Button's qualifying pace when he did his lap, if Lewis went out at the same time, he would have been either a tenth behind Vettel or bang on Vettel's time. McLaren chose to release late to make sure the track had rubbered up enough to ensure the latter, but didn't count on the possibility of a shunt. They wanted to get a dramatic pole, and are now instead back in an even more dramatic tenth.

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Perez seemingly didn't have any chance of avoiding that crash. The car was already loose coming out of the tunnel, which left him a choice between straightening out or starting his braking as he came down out of it. That car was already beyond saving before he hit the wall. He should've just tried to keep it straight and cut the chicane, maybe, but then, we don't know if that's what he was attempting.
 
I wouldn't be surprised to see Alonso peeping the first 3 men into the lead like last week. Hamilton will be a man with a lot of work to do because he might well be getting stuck behind Maldonado, Schumacher, Massa and Rosberg for some laps. Terrible call by McLaren boys sending him out late...

The weather will be clear all day long, a good day for motorsport.

EDIT: It seems like Rosberg called for a change to the barier at Nouvelle Chicane following Sergio Perez's accident yesterday. The action is also supported by both Button who also experienced an accident there and Mark Webber. They also suggest the bumps needed to be addressed as soon as possible.
 
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