I missed the qualifying. I know the results, but did I miss anything exciting?
Saving fuel might be another positive but I doubt he was doing that to save fuel in qualifying. I think main thing is look after the tyres over the lap, no lock-ups by Nico on his lap and I think this technique helped that and also not any major overheating tyre oversteery moments in lap too.Ted Kravitz in practice said he had been practicing this technique to help him save fuel so he may have been slightly underfuelled for his quali lap.
I did notice him and one of the Force Indias doing that.What was interesting to see is the late downshifts on pole lap. I have used this technique on rFactor before to make braking easier. Things I think it will help in real life with current F1 regulations is less chance of lock-up and tyres overheating over the lap which also will help do a faster lap but also help at start of race if starting on same set of tyres as it means less degradation. Also it will help gearbox and engine related parts as less stress is probably put on them parts using such technique.
That's taken out of context. What he meant is "It's the government's fault for letting them do what they do" he's not exactly saying anything negative about the government or the country.
Force India is impressive once again. Might be as fast as the Ferrari, imagine if they had better drivers.
Don't forget F1 cars are rev and pirelli limited.Charles had the new parts and probably the quicker driver of the two also which explains the gap.
Anyway, I was looking at GP2 and noticed that they are not much slower than the slowest cars in F1. If the cars next year are much slower then step up from GP2 to F1 might be very small regarding speed.
I was thinking the same last year. I think if, let's say Mercedes had swapped drivers with Force India last year we'd see Nico and Michael consistently fighting for big points in every race. Not taking anything away from Hulkenberg but the car seems faster than what the results are showing.Yes, the FI drivers are definitely to blame for Force India's under performance relative to the cars true ability. This can be supported by their failings at other teams where they were embarrassed by their team mates. The fact that they don't crash much is proof that they are not real racers and are just going along for the ride. Clearly with Force India's massive budget they should have better drivers. 👍
GP2 has lower revs and is also Pirelli limited.Don't forget F1 cars are rev and pirelli limited.
I was thinking the same last year. I think if, let's say Mercedes had swapped drivers with Force India last year we'd see Nico and Michael consistently fighting for big points in every race. Not taking anything away from Hulkenberg but the car seems faster than what the results are showing.
Lower revs but they're not limited just for the sake of reliability, are they? F1 cars are held back. Even in qualifying they seem to sacrifice a bit of performance with the setup not to hurt their race too much.GP2 has lower revs and is also Pirelli limited.
Oh I got it but I actually believe in what I said. Yes they have a limited budget and can't afford better drivers but the car WAS faster than what the results say. So was the Sauber, by the way.It's amazing how blatent, in your face sarcasm can still fly over a head on the internet. Well, if said internet is filled with Sheldon Cooper's I guess.
Oh I got it but I actually believe in what I said. Yes they have a limited budget and can't afford better drivers but the car WAS faster than what the results say. So was the Sauber, by the way.
Oh I got it but I actually believe in what I said. Yes they have a limited budget and can't afford better drivers but the car WAS faster than what the results say. So was the Sauber, by the way.
They probably put the 10,000 rev limit in GP2 for reliability reasons too. I don't really watch GP2 but I read that they save tyres even in the Sprint races. I don't think tyres hold back too much on a single qualifying lap for both but for race, I would think it holds back F1 a lot more than GP2 though.Lower revs but they're not limited just for the sake of reliability, are they? F1 cars are held back. Even in qualifying they seem to sacrifice a bit of performance with the setup not to hurt their race too much.
As for pirelli, I don't watch GP2 as much as I'd like to so I don't know how much it affects them but I doubt they're holding back the cars as much as they're holding back F1's. Ffs they make changes to the car all year just to suit the damn tyres.
Damn gearbox penalties.
Can we deduct points from the team or something? Just sick of these things, even way back when Kimi used to pick them up regularly for McLaren.
Would be so sad if Mercedes go through the data and maybe have to change for Rosberg.
..Sutil is one of my favourite drivers. You guys realize I'm talking about 2012 not 2013, right? You can go back to old GP threads and read my posts about him. As for reference points:You've driven them have you? Adrian Sutil is a very highly rated driver and always has been. Di Resta is similarly no slouch, the fact their times are very similar shows that. Nico is also highly rated so I really don't know how you can come to that conclusion.
You don't always need a reference point. No one had a reference point when they said Lotus is too fast 2012 at the beginning of the season and that it's going to beat Mercedes.How exactly can you prove this without any reference point? If both drivers for the team "aren't good enough" then who are you comparing them to?
They will not be missed. The only argument they have is being a platform for young drivers. In reality, they're still too poor to stay at F1 without sponsors and without pay drivers there won't be enough so what platform?Gearboxes have to last 4 races as a form of cost cutting.
Same reason why they are limited on engines.
If they got rid of these rules then you could likely say good bye to Marussia and Caterham.
Gearboxes have to last 4 races as a form of cost cutting.
Same reason why they are limited on engines.
If they got rid of these rules then you could likely say good bye to Marussia and Caterham.
They weren't embarrassed, but Sutil was beaten by over-the-hill Fisichella (fresh off being beaten by Kova, not exactly a powerhouse either) and Di Resta was comfortably beaten by Hulkenberg. Neither has beaten a teammate in F1 who deserved to be there. The best mark for either is Liuzzi...Yes, the FI drivers are definitely to blame for Force India's under performance relative to the cars true ability. This can be supported by their failings at other teams where they were embarrassed by their team mates. The fact that they don't crash much is proof that they are not real racers and are just going along for the ride. Clearly with Force India's massive budget they should have better drivers. 👍
Yes, the FI drivers are definitely to blame for Force India's under performance relative to the cars true ability. This can be supported by their failings at other teams where they were embarrassed by their team mates. The fact that they don't crash much is proof that they are not real racers and are just going along for the ride. Clearly with Force India's massive budget they should have better drivers. 👍