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Vette is an exotic?
Yea... Its in a Class where it competes with the Vipers (non ARC of course), Lambos, 911's and Ferraris... Its filling the void where the Death Trap of a Ford GT was once apart of.
Vette is an exotic?
Yea... It's in a Class where it competes with the Vipers (non ACR of course), Lambos, 911's and Ferraris... Its filling the void where the Death Trap of a Ford GT was once apart of.
Yea... Its in a Class where it competes with the Vipers (non ARC of course), Lambos, 911's and Ferraris... Its filling the void where the Death Trap of a Ford GT was once apart of.
psntomazYea... Its in a Class where it competes with the Vipers (non ARC of course), Lambos, 911's and Ferraris... Its filling the void where the Death Trap of a Ford GT was once apart of.
Really I thought vettes were muscle cars
Just because it's fast doesn't mean it's an "exotic". Do you gawk when you see one on the street? Of course not.
The term "Exotic" is an already dumb and useless "classification" that doesn't apply to the cheaply made plastics that make up a Corvette.
Just because it's fast doesn't mean it's an "exotic". Do you gawk when you see one on the street? Of course not.
The term "Exotic" is an already dumb and useless "classification" that doesn't apply to the cheaply made plastics that make up a Corvette.
Yea... Its in a Class where it competes with the Vipers (non ARC of course), Lambos, 911's and Ferraris... Its filling the void where the Death Trap of a Ford GT was once apart of.
The corvette gets gawked at plenty just not in the US. You can hate all you want on the plastics but the performance you just have to deal with the hard facts.
Exotic has nothing to due with it being made of plastic or not, also the ZR1 is made of plenty of carbon through out the exterior fixed roof body, the Z06 also had a limited edition all carbon version. It is exotic due to the materials and techonolgy it's made up of as well as it being a two seater super car with a 200 + top speed. I usually gawk when I see the one and only ZR1 in my town just like I gawk at certain Mercedes and BMWs because I know the specs on them and how expensive they are. To scoff at a car that is 100k + seems a bit foolish.
composite and carbon-fiber body panels, hydroformed aluminum frame with aluminum and magnesium structural and chassis components
^ Those exotic materials and combonations are what make a car an exotic in a super car mold.
Also if it were as cheap as you describe it, then why not just build a whole new chassis and body/frame to race ALMS and Le Mans with?
Perhaps I misread, but did you just recommend that I engineer an entirely new racing chassis and compete in ALMS to prove that a street Corvette is made of plastic of questionable quality?
Once again, I said earlier that I think that "exotic" is a stupid classification. I will also say this: I have driven a C6 Z06 and a Porsche Turbo around a track. The Chevy isn't even in the same league. It was a steakhouse cut to filet mignon. Football cheerleader to Italian model. Yes, I realize that we are discussing the ZR1, but I don't think that an outing in that would change my stance.
If you think that you can classify a Corvette as an "exotic" through the price or performance numbers, then you must get out to the track more.
I'm asking why doesn't Chevy/Corvette Racing just make a new chassis and frame...not for you to do it. That'd be uncalled for really. Point being the ZR1 is a great car and buyers are getting their moneys worth as far as track to street. Since much of what is learned from the C6.R goes to the car.
However, that doesn't prove a Porsche is garbage nor does your claim that Z06 is.
I get to the track plenty and the ZR1 is a good track car, I've seen it perform and the GM proving grounds where I live you meet people that can tell you first hand. Also the ZR1 has lapped tracks better than the Porsche and others. You're argument seems to fall down to a rhetoric that just because it comes from a company that strictly doesn't build super cars it isn't one (to me).
Yes, I agree that racing pedigree can play a factor in elevating a car to "exotic" status. In this case however, I don't think it's enough.
See above for my "claim" that the Z06 is garbage. It isn't there. Quite the opposite actually, but it seems that you're not interested in what I actually say![]()
I said absolutely nothing about companies that build strictly super cars. The above statement about the Porsche vs. Corvette was about the differences in refinement between the two cars.
The Corvette felt like it was getting around the track because it was on fat rubber and stiff suspension with a low center of gravity and a heap of power. It felt like a sports car. Let me reiterate this point so I am not misquoted on this again. There is nothing wrong with that. I liked it very much. It yielded great results and was a blast to drive. Still not exotic.
The Porsche felt like it was getting around the track because it was expertly tuned and harmoniously constructed by practices and materials that are otherworldly and exotic.
Exotic
And I still hesitate to classify the Porsche as exotic...
if a Corvette and a Porsche Turbo shows up in my area, the Corvette will be getting 10 times the attention. Porsches are almost as common as a Honda Civic over here lol.
imo a Corvette is exotic because it has a brashness like no other. It depends in your location really, a GTR might be really exotic in the states too but really common over here.
But I don't think level of engineering and refinement has anything to do with it, it's not in the definition of the word.
You're opinion that the Z06 is garbage is subjective and not based in fact.
I could make the claim that since the last confirmed Porsche production car test run at Nordschleif was 7:24 and the Z06 last claimed test confirmed was 7:22 and the ZR1 was 7:19.63, that the Corvette is clearly better. The motor trend test around Laguna Seca with the Z06 and the GT2 RS showed the Vette being faster by 2 seconds as well. However, I wont to a degree it may show the cars are better, but that is a limited degree. Yet I will say that is more proof than what you've put forth.
Also when has Magnesium and Aluminum been known not to be exotic especially when in combination, the Corvette on both has Carbon Ceramic breaks which are exotic and have been used in racing for a while now...
If you think that you can classify a Corvette as an "exotic" through the price, extremely vague materials namedrops, or performance numbers, then you must get out to the track more.
if a Corvette and a Porsche Turbo shows up in my area, the Corvette will be getting 10 times the attention. Porsches are almost as common as a Honda Civic over here lol.
imo a Corvette is exotic because it has a brashness like no other. It depends in your location really, a GTR might be really exotic in the states too but really common over here.
But I don't think level of engineering and refinement has anything to do with it, it's not in the definition of the word.
How did you drive a Z06 if it didnt have the Z06 package?
It's like me saying I drove a 911 turbo, only it didn't have a turbo nor four wheel drive.
Z07...
DennischDiscussing a Corvette in a Mustang thread.
But back ontopic. 200mph? Really? Will it hit that? (If it could I would.)
Discussing a Corvette in a Mustang thread.
But back ontopic. 200mph? Really? Will it hit that? (If it could I would.)