2013 Shelby GT500 Revealed

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Zenith013
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The Z06 I drove was a 2009 and didn't have a Z07 package. I didn't drive it for long enough shifts in order for the carbon ceramic brakes to be needed.

Seeing as you don't seem to read the posts that you reply to, I'll let my past self respond...





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This raises another important point. Why aren't 911 Turbos exotic? Because the low end variants are everywhere. Same with the Corvette. I see standard Corvettes all over the place. I'd have to be bored to turn my head to see a stock Z06 drive by.
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Wow I read your post once again I made it quite clear, that I agree and it shouldn't be made exotic. The name dropping and other things I do are what the automotive industry constitutes as an exotic car, not a couple hours at a track day. just because my SRT4 does well against cars twice the price or triple due to extensive tuning doesn't make it an exotic or better yet a super car but rather just an over amped car. How about you read into my post a little better an not skip the key parts that make things like you said above moot, especially when it turns out that I agree with you more than you probably would like to admit at this point.

Their low end variants make them non exotic or give them super car status???

A turbo s, gt3 rs, and gt2 rs as well as a z06/z07, ZR1 options and various other cars like them don't have their super car status diminished just because their are lower models for people who don't have the ability to buy the top tier.

Anyways if you want to debate this then PM me since as others have said this is a mustang thread.
 
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I think Jalopnik included the destination charge while the Ford site doesn't, could be wrong though.
 
Joey D
I think Jalopnik included the destination charge while the Ford site doesn't, could be wrong though.
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Pretty sure that's it.

Can't wait for these to start hitting the street for reviews.

Edit: Mine came out to $60k.
 
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Zenith013
According to Jalopnik, the base price will be $54,995
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Listed on Ford's webpage as $54,200.
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lol, I can gurantee that you won't walk out of the dealer with a deal like that. These things will be marked up about anywhere from $10-25k above the orginal price, so I'd love for a dealer to be selling at MSRP. Not going to happen anytime soon.
 
Exotic describes technology, materials, and engineering design.

Supercar describes performance.
 
Eric.
Exotic describes technology, materials, and engineering design.

Supercar describes performance.
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Performance comes from those three things.

I find the term exotic meaningless.

As for this Mustang, I still don't like it all that much. Same complaint that I've always had, it's just an engine.

I know that it can corner, but I can't find any reason to celebrate breaking out 100 extra hp over dropping a few hundred pounds. I'd just take a Corvette over this if performance was the issue. I guess you could buy it on looks, but I don't think it looks amazing (or bad) either.
 
R1600Turbo
A standard C6 vette? I would put my money on the Boss Mustang.
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Judging by past reviews, it seems to be a pretty equal match with the new C6s. Although, on a couple courses, the 302 LS has given the GS a run for its money.
 
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Almost as much power as an Aventador...in a $50k Mustang. Wow.
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Except I bet the Shelby won't put up great performance numbers considering it's high HP, which will have more horses than a lot of supercars . The Z06 will beat it with 140 less hp, and the ZR1 will crush it with 12 less HP. In both drag race and race track. And the Shelby will be $60k not 50.

It's still a hell of a deal to get a car with 650HP at that cheap cost. I think they look mean as hell and aggressive too. I just don't belive it's performance will match it's 650 horses.
 
Organ-Donor
Except I bet the Shelby won't put up great performance numbers considering it's high HP, which will have more horses than a lot of supercars . The Z06 will beat it with 140 less hp, and the ZR1 will crush it with 12 less HP. In both drag race and race track. And the Shelby will be $60k not 50.

It's still a hell of a deal to get a car with 650HP at that cheap cost. I think they look mean as hell and aggressive too. I just don't belive it's performance will match it's 650 horses.
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With the gtr setting a standard I seriously doubt a 650hp mudtang will have performance numbers to match.
 
Organ-Donor
Except I bet the Shelby won't put up great performance numbers considering it's high HP, which will have more horses than a lot of supercars . The Z06 will beat it with 140 less hp, and the ZR1 will crush it with 12 less HP. In both drag race and race track. And the Shelby will be $60k not 50.

It's still a hell of a deal to get a car with 650HP at that cheap cost. I think they look mean as hell and aggressive too. I just don't belive it's performance will match it's 650 horses.
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You're comparing a low slung, two seat sports car to a Mustang? :odd:

A GTR, M3, or C63 AMG would be a more apt comparison, but the buyer demographics could hardly be any more different.
 
Organ-Donor
Except I bet the Shelby won't put up great performance numbers considering it's high HP, which will have more horses than a lot of supercars . The Z06 will beat it with 140 less hp, and the ZR1 will crush it with 12 less HP. In both drag race and race track. And the Shelby will be $60k not 50.
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You know, that's pretty obviously not wh-

Organ-Donor
It's still a hell of a deal to get a car with 650HP at that cheap cost. I think they look mean as hell and aggressive too.
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What was the point of that if you knew exactly what his point was?
 
Zenith013
You're comparing a low slung, two seat sports car to a Mustang? :odd:

A GTR, M3, or C63 AMG would be a more apt comparison, but the buyer demographics could hardly be any more different.
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Same reason MT compared them (of course this Shelby has 550hp not 650, but I have seen the 700hp Super Snake get beat by cars with a lot less HP.)

 
Organ-Donor
Same reason MT compared them (of course this Shelby has 550hp not 650, but I have seen the 700hp Super Snake get beat by cars with a lot less HP.)

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rNT2UijpCMs">YouTube Link</a>
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Once again, comparing cars because they have similar horsepower numbers is ridiculous. Might as well test an Ariel Atom against a BMW 330i. I hear the BMW has more horsepower.

I guess the BMW doesn't "put up great performance numbers considering its high HP."
 
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Zenith013
Once again, comparing cars because they have similar horsepower numbers is ridiculous.
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I agree, somewhat, but what would be better? Same price bracket? Then you have cars with tons of power and nothing else compared with nicely appointed cars with less power.
These types of comparos rarely ever sway buyers one way or the other. It's so that fanboy A has a one up on fanboy B or so that a guy who would never own one or the other knows which can do what. That's my take at least.
 
Zenith013
Once again, comparing cars because they have similar horsepower numbers is ridiculous. Might as well test an Ariel Atom against a BMW 330i. I hear the BMW has more horsepower.

I guess the BMW doesn't "put up great performance numbers considering its high HP."
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Comparing a Z06 vette and a GT500 Mustang isn't ridiculous. Both rwd v8 American muscle.
 
eSZee
I agree, somewhat, but what would be better? Same price bracket? Then you have cars with tons of power and nothing else compared with nicely appointed cars with less power.
These types of comparos rarely ever sway buyers one way or the other. It's so that fanboy A has a one up on fanboy B or so that a guy who would never own one or the other knows which can do what. That's my take at least.
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Well we all know that in an effort to sway potential buyers the manufacturers price their competing cars competitively.

M3, RS4, C63 AMG. All four door sports sedans.

Camaro, Mustang, Challenger.

Corvette, Porsche.

Pretty much anything in this thread

The list goes on. But we'll get different opinions on what makes different cars comparable. That wasn't what I was talking about

My point is that you can't say that a car doesn't "put up great performance numbers" because you're comparing it to cars that are in a different league.

Organ-Donor
Comparing a Z06 vette and a GT500 Mustang isn't ridiculous. Both rwd v8 American muscle.
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-RWD is the most popular performance layout.
-V8's are one of the (if not the) most popular performance engines.

Calling a Corvette a muscle car is huge stretch at best.

The Corvette is designed completely differently than the Shelby, competes with different players and is marketed towards a different group. Do we compare a Porsche 911 Carrera S to a BMW M3? Of course not. They're both RWD German Sports cars and the BMW has the bigger engine, but their missions are different.
 
Organ-Donor
(of course this Shelby has 550hp not 650, but I have seen the 700hp Super Snake get beat by cars with a lot less HP.)

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The 2013 car has many other improvements that will help it all-round, including better tires and better launch control and all that jazz. Should perform noticeable better than the current car, even in short acceleration sprints.
 

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