2014 Formula 1 Russian Grand Prix

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  1. baldgye

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    Perhaps, but I would like it to be more unpredictable, otherwise it wouldn't but much different than the warmer races. Idk what the year round weather conditions are for that area of Russia but there is probably a time of year when the weather isn't super great, a cold wet Russian race would be pretty epic if not more epic than a dark cold race... (assuming that if it rained during a night race it would be red flagged due to visibility issues with rain reflecting the lights etc)
     
  2. Peasantslayer

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    I imagine a cold wet street track being very dangerous.
     
  3. Touring Mars

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    There goes my Scottish Grand Prix idea then.
     
  4. Grayfox

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    Night racing is just stupid.
    All it is for is money for the european companies so TV companies can charge the most for the primetime ad spots.
     
  5. mustafur

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    Cold Race wouldn't be easier to drive if they struggle to get heat in their tyres.

    Race Tyres are a completely different animal when you can't get them up to temperature.
     
  6. catamount39

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    Well at least then they wouldn't have any trouble keeping the engines cool.
    Yeah because they have the gripping qualities of socks on hardwood flooring when cold. :lol:
     
  7. mustafur

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    Not exactly, but handling can border towards unpredictability.
     
  8. Rage Racer

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    Not really. The name Marussia is formed from the Russian female name Marusya - a variation of Maria. Russians usually pronounce the team name as "Maroosya".

    Cold... Wet... Race. Brrrrrrgh.
    That reminds me of that FIA GT1 & GT3 race on Moscow Raceway I've visited two years ago. It was so rainy and cold, I froze myself to balls bones. Luckily I had a VIP pass and could warm up in the closed VIP lounge, but I couldn't hear the engine sounds from there.
    Probably it was a tough race for the drivers, as far as I remember, about two cars didn't finish (I've personally seen a Lambo spinned out on the last corner).
     
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    Alright, here are some changes the organisers could make for next year:

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    First, Turn 7. It could be smoothed out to become a sweeper, following the circumference of the stadium (the green oval marked 6).

    Next, Turns 8 and 9. By changing Turn 7, this sequence becomes faster and opens up into a double-apex left-hander. The whole section would become trickier, and would open up passing opportunities into Turn 10.

    See also Turns 15 and 16, the left-right dogleg around the back of the paddock. I understand that the whole thing is limited by physical geography, but the whole thing could be reprofiled to open those corners up. Kevin Magnussen in particular was cutting the apex of 16 a lot, so there is some space.
     
  10. Dennisch

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    They should rethink the runoff area in turn 2. Make it so that when brakes fail they can go straight on, but put a tirewall or something further into the corner, to prevent them going of track too much and just floor it.
     
  11. mustafur

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    or Atleast put Speed humps all over it like at Catalunyas first corner.
     
  12. niky

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    Yeah... that's about the only thing I'd change.

    I actually like how tricky that dogleg in the back is... I'd have to review it more to see if it's ideal, though.
     
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    Just finished watching the replay on NBCSN. Mercedes power gets 1-5 overall, Rosberg coming back to finish 2nd after the lap 1 pitstop and finishing the race on that set of tires, and Mercedes taking the Constructors Championship. Somewhat boring race though.
     
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  15. Jimlaad43

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    Or, they could just do the original proposal.
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    This way, turn 4 would also become a fast sweeper into a nice slow overtaking spot. 9 and 10 are a bit more open. Although I would leave the back straight as it is now, and keep the 15-16 chicane, the off camber corner produced some good moments as it was nice and tricky.
     
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  16. Legro

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    Wasn't the track supposed to go through Olympic stadium at one point? I remember that someone said so in Finnish Winter Olympic broadcast.
     
  17. baldgye

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    I'm not a great fan of that, coming out of t3 you need a breaking point to make it interesting
     
  18. Pezzarinho17

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    I agree with niky regarding the 15 - 16 dogleg, was good to see line variation between drivers, though those (Magnussen was mentioned, I noticed Rosberg far more) cutting across the kerbs need pegging back onto the circuit. Harsher kerbs would do that.

    Also agree that run off at 2 needs changing. Was it Will Buxton or Martin Brundle mentioning the idea of "penalty box" which the drivers would need to drive through if they went wide there? Don't think that is a plausible solution for modern racing, but the track doesn't tend itself towards the use of polystyrene bollards (like Monza) to force the drivers to slow down.

    The only change to the circuit itself I would consider for 2015 would be to open up the exit of T5, since I liked the look of battles developing in T4 but it didn't allow the driver on the outside of T5 a chance to keep the position. Anyone who saw the first GP3 race and remembers the opening lap onboard from Alex Lynn, the corner didn't allow him the room to tuck back underneath the other 2 drivers when they took themselves wide, and he lost positions having to follow them through the run off area.
     
  19. GTPorsche

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    I think there was a time where they thought about having it go through the stadium but I guess they changed their minds on it.
     
  20. SVT Cobra GT

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    Aren't they using that stadium for the world cup in '18?
     
  21. Peasantslayer

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    I recognize the 3 at the front.
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  22. Cameron919

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    track was great, just kinda boring race no body can compete with Mercedes. hopefully nest year red bull Ferrari and McLaren will be on pace or at least close cuz watching Mercedes dominate isn't much fun, nothing against lewis he's awesome its just F1 needs some BOP lol
     
  23. LMSCorvetteGT2

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    Lewis had his pro-Ukraine/America shirt underneath is fire suit...
     
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  24. GTPorsche

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    Probably realized that if he hadn't, Putin would have sent him to the gulag.
     
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    It's weird because hamilton seems like the kind of person that would take a selfie with someone like putin lol.
     
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  26. HKS racer

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    Sportmanship by Mercedes.

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    This is the first title since 1950, as far as I know Ferrari have 16 of these and they didn't trolled Mercedes in the last.. hmm.. how many? SIXTYFOUR years.

    This is the classic suckers attitude. But I know, should be really hard to wait 64 years to post this silly pic on twitter.
     
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  27. Akmuq

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    I don't think the actual Ferrari team are as mad as you are about this.
     
  28. Pezzarinho17

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    Oh no, personality!

    Wasn't there another picture? Man in a suit holding up a card, reading "Mr Alonso"...
     
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  29. baldgye

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    I think maybe your taking this more seriously than you should.

    All the top teams and team managers talk to each other fairly often.
    If I agree or disagree with what Merc do, at least they appear to act like normal people and not a faceless brand refusing to offer opinions incase they scare off or annoy a sponsor.
     
  30. Peasantslayer

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    When you say 64 years you make it sound as if Mercedes have been competing as a full works team for that long, rivalries and little stunts like this are good for the sport because they get you behind a particular team.
     
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