WTF are Sky talking about with F1 and Laguna Seca, just stop saying stupid things.![]()
Weather for the Mexican GP is apparently not looking good either.
Challenge accepted:That said...if you could find a way to make Leguna Seca compatible for modern F1 without destroying the track, it would be pretty awesome.
That's actually pretty good. All the existing corners still retain their importance and feel.Challenge accepted:
http://www.gmap-pedometer.com/m/?r=6740905&rf=1
The run-off isn't bad; the real problem is the relatively short length and lack of pit facilities. I tried to make something new that didn't corrupt the old circuit.
I don't know - owing to the time difference, FP1 was on between the hours of why-the-hell-am-I-still-awake and please-God-just-let-me-sleep for me. So I don't even know why they were talking about Laguna Seca in the first place. What did they say?I don't get what Sky was on about, Leguna being too dangerous?
During FP2 Ted managed to get a short interview with the muppet and asked him about a 2nd US race. He said that NJ was most likely dead but a 2nd race in California was possible, but not at Long Beach which is when the Sky people started with the Laguna nonsense. Forget that fact that the track is barely suitable for Imsa at this point, the track is broke. They have lost money every year since 2008 and could never come close to paying a F1 sanction fee.I don't know - owing to the time difference, FP1 was on between the hours of why-the-hell-am-I-still-awake and please-God-just-let-me-sleep for me. So I don't even know why they were talking about Laguna Seca in the first place. What did they say?
Well, the only other option would be Sonoma, and it has many of the same issues in terms of facilities.He said that NJ was most likely dead but a 2nd race in California was possible, but not at Long Beach which is when the Sky people started with the Laguna nonsense.
Red Bull turned the A1 Ring around. Likewise Carlos Slim with the Hermanos Rodríguez circuit. Granted, they picked it up for a song, but Laguna Seca could be turned around. If they invested in a new surface, it would increase the immediate appeal for American series. And if they went for a more traditional pit layout, it would give them broader appeal. The problem they have is that the open-air pit is very American, and probably a hold-over from NASCAR and oval racing where pit buildings will obscure the crowd's line of sight.They have lost money every year since 2008 and could never come close to paying a F1 sanction fee.
You also have it running through the pond, which with California and their water issues, will never happen.Challenge accepted:
http://www.gmap-pedometer.com/m/?r=6740905&rf=1
The run-off isn't bad; the real problem is the relatively short length and lack of pit facilities. I tried to make something new that didn't corrupt the old circuit.
Sonoma is actually graded for F1 testing.Well, the only other option would be Sonoma, and it has many of the same issues in terms of facilities.
Red Bull turned the A1 Ring around. Likewise Carlos Slim with the Hermanos Rodríguez circuit. Granted, they picked it up for a song, but Laguna Seca could be turned around. If they invested in a new surface, it would increase the immediate appeal for American series. And if they went for a more traditional pit layout, it would give them broader appeal. The problem they have is that the open-air pit is very American, and probably a hold-over from NASCAR and oval racing where pit buildings will obscure the crowd's line of sight.
but Laguna Seca could be turned around. If they invested in a new surface, it would increase the immediate appeal for American series. And if they went for a more traditional pit layout, it would give them broader appeal. The problem they have is that the open-air pit is very American, and probably a hold-over from NASCAR and oval racing where pit buildings will obscure the crowd's line of sight.
http://www.thecalifornian.com/story...-maintain-mazda-raceway-laguna-seca/31720801/Well, the only other option would be Sonoma, and it has many of the same issues in terms of facilities.
Red Bull turned the A1 Ring around. Likewise Carlos Slim with the Hermanos Rodríguez circuit. Granted, they picked it up for a song, but Laguna Seca could be turned around. If they invested in a new surface, it would increase the immediate appeal for American series. And if they went for a more traditional pit layout, it would give them broader appeal. The problem they have is that the open-air pit is very American, and probably a hold-over from NASCAR and oval racing where pit buildings will obscure the crowd's line of sight.
Australians have water issues, too. Do you know what we'd do? Dig another pond.You also have it running through the pond, which with California and their water issues, will never happen.
Really? I'm not disputing this, I just find it really suprising. If your talking about the full GP layout, the second to last corner (16 by my count) is pretty damn fast with hardly any runoff and a big-ole wall not far from the track. The pit entrance and layout of the final hairpin is rather sketchy too. If it's the National layout which is graded...no, just no. I hate that configuration. I understand the reasons behind it, but it ruins the third sector, and neuters turn 1. F1 at Sonoma would definitely be a precession...although it's a track where Redbull and maybe Ferrari could threaten MercedezSonoma is actually graded for F1 testing.
This isn't Australia.Australians have water issues, too. Do you know what we'd do? Dig another pond.
If Miller had the facilities, that's probably the only track that could, but I doubt anyone in F1 wants to be in Utah of all places.
A subsidiary of Geely of China bought Miller for $20 mil and they plan to invest $270 Mil in the next 10 yrs.Yeah, I didn't include it though since it will probably be a housing development in a few years.![]()
A subsidiary of Geely of China bought Miller for $20 mil and they plan to invest $270 Mil in the next 10 yrs.
Correct. Y'all will just turn your eyes North and build a pipeline when you get thirstyThis isn't Australia.
i originally thought of Miller but forgot while I was typingIf Miller had the facilities, that's probably the only track that could, but I doubt anyone in F1 wants to be in Utah of all places.
Caesar's Palace was amazing.F1 and Las Vegas just seem to go together so well.
Caesar's Palace was amazing.
No, I think that a second race in the United States needs to be somewhere in the east, not the west. If Boston works for IndyCar, maybe Formula One could steal it away.
I agree with @prisonermonkeys in that a second USGP should really be held in the east somewhere...I think we're talking west just because of what Bernie said.Watkins Glen just had a very thorough repave. All it needs is more runoff and better pit facilities and it'd be an F1 ready track again.
IThis is purely going off of pCARS experience, but Road America would be un-freakin-real!! If they updated the facilities, increased the run-off after some of the hard breaking zones (and The Kink!), and maybe cut the forest back a bit in a few places, I think it could maybe work? It's probably one of those that would have to change so much that it would lose its character.
A Vegas night race would be pretty cool looking. Much more reasonable temperatures too. I think the broadcast time might be a bit awkward for the rest of the world though?I agree. It pretty much has the required run offs, and the overall layout and length of the track is well suited for F1. The stretch through the forest is sort of reminiscent of the old Hockenheim. The biggest change would be new pit facilities.
If they were to go the Las Vegas route, I would do it like they do in Singapore, and make it an evening race. Would make for a great setting with all the casino lights blinking away in the background.
The problem with Laguna Seca is that it's not a privately owned track(and isnt for sale) so any upgrades have to be funded by tax money(not going to happen) or a very generous company/person (this is how the last upgrade happened, but I wouldn't count on it happening again anytime soon).
Apart from COTA I don't think there are any tracks west of the Mississpi that would be interesting in F1 cars.