2015 NASCAR Thread - And then there was 1

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And every single one of those series.. none of them would actually display an overtake flag on the leader... :crazy:... would have penalized Logano for avoidable contact.
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Admittedly I've only seen the leader given the blue flag a couple times (can't recall any specific examples though). But they also usually have rules stating the number of blocks you are allowed to make before it becomes an issue.

At the end of the day, drivers need to learn that there are risks involved when aggressively blocking like Matt was and one of those risks is being sent in the wrong direction. It doesn't mean Joey Isnt at fault, but I just have a hard time placing all the blame on 1 idiot when both idiots played a part.
 
Except nobody got killed on the track yesterday. Kenseth didn't even hit the wall.

If a driver wants to aggressively block a faster car for lap after lap, that driver should expect to get moved out of the way.
 
I never said it won't ever happen again, but I'm quite sure that no driver wants to intentionally kill or even harm another driver on the track just to get a win.
 
Swagger897
Exactly. The leader was not blue flagged at all, even though he was considerably slower.
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I think "considerably slower" is exaggerating the situation. If Logano had been considerably faster, he would have passed Kenseth with relative ease. However, he was only slightly faster. Due to the current aero rules, Kenseth could have potentially prevailed with blocking and running in Logano's fastest line. There were only four laps left to go. Kenseth has won with slower cars on older tires at a 1.5 mile track before (See Las Vegas, 2013).
 
NASCAR won't throw a blue flag at the leader. Especially if the leader is in a close battle in the closing laps.

Had they done that, Kenseth would ignore it.
 
Logano didn't do it for no reason. Kenseth didn't accidentally block him into the wall a few laps beforehand.
If Logano had flat out spun him out without attempting a passing multiple times then yes, NASCAR should of stepped in there.
At the same point, there's no reason for NASCAR to blue flag Kenseth because why? You'd have much more controversy and we'd have significantly more outrage in this thread rather then "Oh, this is a problem". It's best to just let it play out rather than be controversial about it.
 
Swagger897
Exactly. The leader was not blue flagged at all, even though he was considerably slower.
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They don't even use that flag for lapped cars, why would they, or anyone, ever use it on the leader?

The racers job is to pass the leader, crashing him because you can't figure out how to pull off a pass isn't clean racing.
 
I've seen the blue flag used many times for lapped cars, that is the intent.

The blue flag itself is optional though. A driver can ignore it if they choose, but they better have a good reason. Racing for the lead would be a good reason.
 
As you said, it's optional. Until they go further insane and start enforcing their own rules, it's up to the driver approaching from behind to make the pass. They also have no set rules against blocking, and until they do so, the leader has every right to take whatever line, whenever he wants to.

Sure, both drivers are equally at fault, but the overarching fault here is NASCAR itself.
 
Right, the leader can take any line he wants. Also true is that there is no defined rule on blocking, although excessive blocking is discouraged.

When he repeatedly cuts off/blocks any attempt by a faster car to pass, he gets moved out of the way.
 
I believe in the beginning of the season we got quite a detailed explanation on this while at Daytona... I really don't feel like hearing DW right now so I'm not going to pull it up.
 

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