I think you might be one of the very few. I would buy an STi because, 30 more horsepower is a massive difference, the STi probably drives better than the WRX and in my opinion looks better.Am I the only one that likes the WRX better than the STi? Why the heck would anyone buy the STi? Just for 30 more horsepower?
To be honest I don't know, I haven't driven one, I only said it probably drove better. I've personally never liked the WRX, I don't really know why, maybe it's because I'm an STi purist or something.Why? What's different about how it drives? It's probably harder... oooh big deal-- it's more uncomfortable.
I currently own a 2005 RS and a 2004 WRX.Am I the only one that likes the WRX better than the STi? Why the heck would anyone buy the STi? Just for 30 more horsepower?
The stupid quarter windows in the front (and in the back for the sedan) are what makes the car feel cheap. They are seriously a let down styling wise. The first and second generation Imprezas had windowless frames, which is way better for looks for me. The third generation gained the frames, but at least the windows aren't divided like this generation's.Rendering of the '15 WRX STI coupe….....
I want one
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I would not say "ANY" car is a snow mobile. There is a MASSIVE difference in the snow in an AWD car compared to a RWD or FWD. The AWD is going to win every time. Especially if it has a full set of snow tires.PSA:
Any car is a snow-mobile with half-decent winter rubber, in that you'd be doing circles around people on A/S rubber.
Getting going - sure AWD helps. After that, I'd take a BRZ on snow tires over WRX on the same snow tires. RWD/FWD with a locking diff on the drive axle is 100% more predictable in its behavior than the AWD in a WRX with VDC disabled. WRX can transition from plowing like a FWD to the rear end coming around in an instant cause until there is a significant amount and duration of slipping the viscous coupling in the center diff just doesn't lock and the diff is completely open.I would not say "ANY" car is a snow mobile. There is a MASSIVE difference in the snow in an AWD car compared to a RWD or FWD.
Heeeey, there was 12hp power bump in 08....I'm kind of wondering how long Subaru can ride this train without any innovation. How long now have they had the exact same engine with the exact same power? And yet it's been getting bigger every generation. I really expected a reasonable power jump this time around, especially considering how easily this engine can make more power, but we get nothing.
I like the car, just...there's not much new about it.
You can argue until you are blue in the face but an AWD car in deep snow or offroad is always going to be better than a FWD or RWD even if those cars have full spools. This is obviously if the cars around the same ride height.Getting going - sure AWD helps. After that, I'd take a BRZ on snow tires over WRX on the same snow tires. RWD/FWD with a locking diff on the drive axle is 100% more predictable in its behavior than the AWD in a WRX with VDC disabled. WRX can transition from plowing like a FWD to the rear end coming around in an instant cause until there is a significant amount and duration of slipping the viscous coupling in the center diff just doesn't lock and the diff is completely open.
It's not too relevant for driving in traffic, since everyone is going at the speed some scared housewife is doing on A/S tires on her minivan, but it's true.
Entire drivetrain is worlds above WRX. Suspension components are likely improved like last gen.Am I the only one that likes the WRX better than the STi? Why the heck would anyone buy the STi? Just for 30 more horsepower?
No it's not. They could buy a tuner from COBB and use it on all the cars coming down the line and boom 30 more horses. It's not hard at all, they just don't care because they don't have to care because they're Subaru and Mitsubishi hardly exists anymore. The STi has no direct competition in the US.Heeeey, there was 12hp power bump in 08....
Innovation is expensive. I doubt they will give these cars significant power bump any time soon.
I'm talking market competition, not magazine comparo competition. They're two vastly different things. I think it's safe to say that not many buyers will cross-shop an STi with a CLA45, S3, or TT. The Golf R will receive a lot more traffic and we know this because we already know the demographic that buys Golf Rs and STis.Correction: STI hatch did not have a direct competition other than the under-powered last-gen Golf R. Now that it's sedan-only, it's up against CLA45 AMG and S3. True, those cost more, but still...
And the new Golf R hatch is the only game in town with a liftgate. Somewhat retardedly, the R was locked yesterday at the show, so I have no comments on it.
Hatch had a niche. Sedan is a lot less utilitarian and will be against all those I named + RWD coupes.I'm talking market competition, not magazine comparo competition. They're two vastly different things. I think it's safe to say that not many buyers will cross-shop an STi with a CLA45, S3, or TT. The Golf R will receive a lot more traffic and we know this because we already know the demographic that buys Golf Rs and STis.
Why? What's different about how it drives? It's probably harder... oooh big deal-- it's more uncomfortable.
You can argue until you are blue in the face but an AWD car in deep snow or offroad is always going to be better than a FWD or RWD even if those cars have full spools. This is obviously if the cars around the same ride height.
I have been driving for 20+ years in snow and offroad. I have owned FWD, RWD, and AWD. An AWD is always going to win in extreme snow or offroad. I think you are the only person I have ever seen try to argue that fact. Have you ever actually even driven offroad or really deep snow? Watch how fast a FWD or RWD gets stuck compared to a proper AWD if they are around the same ride height.
To be honest I don't know, I haven't driven one, I only said it probably drove better. I've personally never liked the WRX, I don't really know why, maybe it's because I'm an STi purist or something.![]()