2016 NASCAR Discussion ThreadNASCAR

[NinjaDesignz]

Well, I would hardly call NBCsports.com random. If you have one of the providers on their list, you can watch all their live coverages. Its how I was doing it before I discovered I had the channel.

I don't know the password to the account

 

[catamount39]

I don't know the password to the account

Well there's your problem.

 

[GTPorsche]

I don't know the password to the account

That's not NBCSN's problem.

 

[Blood Eagle]

It's easy enough to find a stream for channels you don't get. Welcome to the internet. Please follow me. Use a popup blocker. No biggie. Do it at your own risk. Don't lecture about the legalities. They are out there for sure.

 

[ukfan758]

Now that Jeff Gordon has completed his first season with fox, how do you guys think he did? I thought that he was incredible for his first year. He does need to stop saying, "look at this" as much imo.

 

[catamount39]

Now that Jeff Gordon has completed his first season with fox, how do you guys think he did? I thought that he was incredible for his first year. He does need to stop saying, "look at this" as much imo.

Did fantastically honestly. Miss him driving, but he did an incredible job. 👍

 

[ukfan758]

Did fantastically honestly. Miss him driving, but he did an incredible job. 👍

A million times better than the trends man before him.

 

[Blood Eagle]

I was never a Jeff Gordon fan but he did a great job. He has real knowledge as he was a driver of the cars they run today. DW is outdated for sure. Overall I think he did an awesome job.

 

[GTFan24]

Now that Jeff Gordon has completed his first season with fox, how do you guys think he did? I thought that he was incredible for his first year. He does need to stop saying, "look at this" as much imo.

He did great. A WAY better commentator than DW no question.

 

[RACECAR]

I felt he did fantastic. If anything, it seemed like he felt very comfortable in the booth. He was on point with his knowledge and as far as I can tell, has no annoying habits like most of the crop from ESPN or TNT.

 

[nascarfan1400]

I miss Larry Mac being in the main booth, but Jeff is great. I think DW should leave before he just does what I think BP did in his final years - say "Oh wow" and talk about how things were in the sport 30 years ago.

 

[Jahgee]

We need a recently retired crew chief to join Gordan, replace DW with him. That way both the on and off track parts of the race are given accurate information during the broadcast

 

[JohnBM01]

Don't worry- NBC will take it from here. FOX had their finale with the Cup series, so it's now NBC lumbering the load from here until mid-November.


Here is the upcoming schedule for July. So if you are looking forward to attending or following certain races, here is the schedule for the top three Touring Series in July:

--- NASCAR Trucks: July 2016 ---
* July 7: Kentucky
* July 20: Eldora
* July 31: Pocono

--- NASCAR XFINITY: July 2016 ---
* July 1: Daytona
* July 8: Kentucky
* July 16: New Hampshire
* July 23: Indianapolis (2 Heat races, followed by the main race)
* July 30: Iowa

--- NASCAR Cup: July 2016 ---
* July 2: Daytona
* July 9: Kentucky
* July 17: New Hampshire
* July 24: Indianapolis
* July 31: Pocono

So what you're getting this month is a little of everything, including two legendary Midwestern race tracks. One of those legendary Midwestern courses is on tarmac while another is on dirt. You don't get road racing, but you WILL get the Tricky Triangle this month, which is like a road course.

ESPN's "Pardon the Interruption" had someone mail in asking to grade the fight at Gateway this past weekend. Michael Wilbon gave it an F-Minus. I thought that fight was pretty weak. I mean... look at the infamous fight at the 1979 Daytona 500 or maybe Jeff Gordon and Clint Bowyer (or even Jeff Gordon vs. Jeff Burton). THOSE were fights; this was more like two fraternity dudes playing around with each other. Heck, even that hockey "fight" a few years ago where two players waited about two minutes before actually throwing punches was more entertaining than the fight this past weekend at Gateway.

If you want to start a little discussion, here's one for you: the FOX finale with Cup was this past weekend with the race at Sonoma. It wraps up Jeff Gordon as a color analyst for NASCAR on FOX. Discussion question: grade Jeff Gordon as a color analyst.


Anyhow... enjoy NASCAR this coming July!

 

[GTPorsche]

Need much less Larry McReynolds on TV than what he gets currently.

 

[nascarfan1400]

I guess I'm the only one who likes Larry outside of his memeablility

 

[Dotini]

My neighbor Stan, who has watched NASCAR since the 60's and raced himself, believes Hamlin allowed Stewart to pass him on the final turn at Sonoma. He says Hamlin drove in off-line, leaving the apex unprotected, and was not wheel hopping, as both Stewart and Hamlin had their rear wheels rolling in the video. Hamlin did lock his front brakes at one point. Stan think about 20% of the fan base agrees that the pass was staged.

In one way, it's a smart and good thing to have Tony in the chase, where he will undoubtedly wreck a few cars and create excitement for the fans and revenue for the tracks. So I won't complain too loudly.

 

[Blitz24]

My neighbor Stan, who has watched NASCAR since the 60's and raced himself, believes Hamlin allowed Stewart to pass him on the final turn at Sonoma. He says Hamlin drove in off-line, leaving the apex unprotected, and was not wheel hopping, as both Stewart and Hamlin had their rear wheels rolling in the video. Hamlin did lock his front brakes at one point. Stan think about 20% of the fan base agrees that the pass was staged.

In one way, it's a smart and good thing to have Tony in the chase, where he will undoubtedly wreck a few cars and create excitement for the fans and revenue for the tracks. So I won't complain too loudly.

If it were a teammate I'd have agreed. Since it's Gibbs I do not agree.

 

[The Bman]

I guess I'm the only one who likes Larry outside of his memeablility

The high side!

 

[Tornado]

This is the first race of the season I've watched, and I thought Jeff was great in the booth. He definitely managed to let loose the natural affability that made him so popular when he first started out; but without getting into that sort of good old boy huckster quality that Michael frequently lapses into to accomplish the same.

 

[Adamgp]

I guess I'm the only one who likes Larry outside of his memeablility

I've always liked Larry Mac and his total butchery of the English language.

 

[GTPorsche]

My neighbor Stan, who has watched NASCAR since the 60's and raced himself, believes Hamlin allowed Stewart to pass him on the final turn at Sonoma. He says Hamlin drove in off-line, leaving the apex unprotected, and was not wheel hopping, as both Stewart and Hamlin had their rear wheels rolling in the video. Hamlin did lock his front brakes at one point. Stan think about 20% of the fan base agrees that the pass was staged.

In one way, it's a smart and good thing to have Tony in the chase, where he will undoubtedly wreck a few cars and create excitement for the fans and revenue for the tracks. So I won't complain too loudly.

Wheelhopping is not necessarily the rear wheels flying off the ground. He clearly screwed up the corner either way. If he meant to take it wide, he wouldn't have needed to lock the brakes.

 

[MustangRyan]

Hamlin claimed that he was driving too much from his mirror, and not enough through his windshield. Based on the move he made in turn seven, he was wise to be watching his mirror. He had to know that Tony, more than any other driver in that field, would move him out of the way in retaliation to win that race, and wouldn't tolerate being blocked.

 

[Northstar]

My prediction:

- Tony goes on a classic late season tear like he's been known to do, winning the title in the process.
- Chase ratings will be decent.
- 2017 regular season ratings will fall even more than they have this year as the races are literally meaningless.

 

[GTPorsche]

I only watched the last 40 laps yesterday because I thought Tony was going to have a high probability of winning.

 

[Blood Eagle]

No way Hamlin let Tony win. No driver out there would let anyone win. Team orders aside. This isn't F1.

 

[GTPorsche]

Seriously. If Hamlin was going to let Tony win, he wouldn't have divebombed him in turn 7 like he said he was going to do if he got close enough.

 

[Leadfoot530]

Hamlin had a move like I do on most racing games. My guess is he missed his breaking point, and just went too deep into the corner. I've missed quite few apexes in my time playing games, so why can't a professional racecar driver?

Ironically, Hamlin got his start by playing video games. iRacing, if I remember correctly.

 

[nascarfan1400]

My neighbor Stan, who has watched NASCAR since the 60's and raced himself, believes Hamlin allowed Stewart to pass him on the final turn at Sonoma. He says Hamlin drove in off-line, leaving the apex unprotected, and was not wheel hopping, as both Stewart and Hamlin had their rear wheels rolling in the video. Hamlin did lock his front brakes at one point. Stan think about 20% of the fan base agrees that the pass was staged.

In one way, it's a smart and good thing to have Tony in the chase, where he will undoubtedly wreck a few cars and create excitement for the fans and revenue for the tracks. So I won't complain too loudly.

Stan can take his tinfoil hat off. Just my opinion lol

 

[The Bman]

I think people need to realize that motor sports are less sport and more business than they used to be. If Hamlin legitimately screwed up, then that is on him, though I do believe that NASCAR would have wanted Tony to win because of the "comeback" story and how exciting a last-lap pass would be. Stuff like that brings in revenue which keeps NASCAR afloat.

And like @Dotini pointed out, Tony in the Chase means more viewership and hence more $$$. Keep in mind as well that Jeff Gordon retired last year and this is Stewart's last year. Those two are among the most popular drivers, so once they're gone, there's going to be a huge gap to fill. Only Dale Jr., and possibly Danica and Chase, are going to be the real big moneymakers until they call it quits.

 

[OutlawQuadrnt]

Gordon exceeded expectations. May be a mainstay for years to come and I won't complain about it.

As for whether Hamlin gifted that win deliberately, I just can't see it. Anyone who is driving with two eyes in the rear view could have easily screwed up their braking point or pressure on the pedal going into the final hairpin.

I miss Larry Mac being in the main booth, but Jeff is great. I think DW should leave before he just does what I think BP did in his final years - say "Oh wow" and talk about how things were in the sport 30 years ago.

I recall BP starting to decline in that last year or so. Even then, he still had a certain charm. DW, not so much.