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Just realised Kyle Busch has finish in the top five in 7 of the 9 races this season.

Not a bad start to the year if I do say so myself.
You can blame me for the two races he didn't finish near the front. I've used him twice all season in fantasy, at California (where he had the tire go down with 2 to go) and last week. I'm good at bringing bad luck to certain drivers. And that doesn't just include fantasy. Before I started doing fantasy racing, naturally, I was a Mayfield fan. We all know how that turned out...
 
You can blame me for the two races he didn't finish near the front. I've used him twice all season in fantasy, at California (where he had the tire go down with 2 to go) and last week. I'm good at bringing bad luck to certain drivers. And that doesn't just include fantasy. Before I started doing fantasy racing, naturally, I was a Mayfield fan. We all know how that turned out...

Haha!

Something tells me you've been picking Kenseth a lot recently...

:D
 
Im gonna leave this here :lol:

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I love that Dale Jr. won, but I hate it because now I come across as a hypocrite because it wasn't a series regular...

It sucks seeing Clint Bowyer doing so bad. He's such a better driver than he's showing this year. Hopefully they get this thing turned around.

Anyway, I think I've got this NASCAR Fantasy thing figured out. I won the last 2 races in my league. Going for 3! :D Hour and 20 minutes till the race!

You gosh damn kidding me...the one time I decide to not watch an xfinity race he is in (again) and he wins...?
 
Stupid rule change, let the teams dig their own graves like they have been now, it's perfectly self policing
 
Stupid rule change, let the teams dig their own graves like they have been now, it's perfectly self policing
Agreed. It is self-policing, but because Stewart spoke out about it, they decided to change it because he's an ambassador to the sport. Of course, fining him the process and then changing it is contradictory.
 
Stupid rule change, let the teams dig their own graves like they have been now, it's perfectly self policing
The whole backlash Nascar got because of the Stewart comments I think is the only reason we see the change in the rule.
 
Kyle Busch meltdown in 3...2...1...


Oh ye of little faith. Kyle handled that interview like a true professional....a far cry from how he used to be. Week after week, win or lose, he keeps making me proud to be a number one fan of his. KB18FAN forever. :bowdown:

@Jahgee Yes, it is self policing until someone gets hurt or worse. Its a safety issue and I welcome the change. They should have never made the rule change in the first damn place, they should have just kept it the way it was. Them fining Stewart for his comments is a complete joke. I don't think anything he said was that damn bad that warranted a fine. Its like you can only say positive things about NASCAR but don't you dare give a negative opinion. What a joke. It just shows me how backwards ass NASCAR is becoming these days. I still, and always will, love the sport but they are making it harder and harder for me to take them seriously.
 
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We're heading into May. For NASCAR types, May is all about two things- the All-Star Race and the Coca-Cola 600. Are you looking forward to any sort of races coming up? Maybe be at the track at some of these races? Here's the upcoming schedule:

--- NASCAR Trucks: May 2016 ---
* May 6: Kansas
* May 13: Dover
* May 20: Charlotte

--- NASCAR XFINITY: May 2016 ---
* Apr. 30: Talladega
* May 14: Dover (includes heat races)
* May 28: Charlotte

--- NASCAR Cup: May 2016 ---
* May 1: Talladega
* May 7: Kansas
* May 15: Dover
* May 20: Charlotte (Sprint Showdown)
* May 21: Charlotte (All-Star Race)
* May 29: Charlotte


At least among the three major series... we got superspeedway action, some intermediate action, and a competitive one-miler. Strap in, folks. The wild ride known as NASCAR is ready to cruise through the month of May.
 
Need anyone who is for the lack of policing of wheel nuts be reminded of the cup race in Atlanta where a wheel came off a car in turn 4 and bounced its way into the infield? Yeah that has had a lot more potential to happen with this ridiculous lack of policing. Sure no one got hurt that we know of but if I remember correctly the wheel came very close to taking out a bunch of fans watching the race on a scaffold. If there's anything in racing that's truly unpredictable it's where a bouncing wheel will go, lord only knows what would have happened if those fans had been taken out.
 
Need anyone who is for the lack of policing of wheel nuts be reminded of the cup race in Atlanta where a wheel came off a car in turn 4 and bounced its way into the infield? Yeah that has had a lot more potential to happen with this ridiculous lack of policing. Sure no one got hurt that we know of but if I remember correctly the wheel came very close to taking out a bunch of fans watching the race on a scaffold. If there's anything in racing that's truly unpredictable it's where a bouncing wheel will go, lord only knows what would have happened if those fans had been taken out.
1) That race was at Charlotte, if the driver of the car whose wheel detached was Brian Vickers
2) How many times, since NASCAR has removed the lug nut policing, has a wheel come completely detached like Vickers' incident?
 
1) That race was at Charlotte, if the driver of the car whose wheel detached was Brian Vickers
2) How many times, since NASCAR has removed the lug nut policing, has a wheel come completely detached like Vickers' incident?

None, and why should it need to? Safety in racing is well known to be reactive and not proactive, that move was regressive if anything. If teams really want to save time with wheel nuts they should lobby NASCAR to move the series to a single central nut.

Why should a matter of not only driver safety but also fan safety be left to a crew chief to decide?

My answer: It shouldn't. It's not a strategy play, it's playing with disaster.
 
1) That race was at Charlotte, if the driver of the car whose wheel detached was Brian Vickers
2) How many times, since NASCAR has removed the lug nut policing, has a wheel come completely detached like Vickers' incident?


None yet, that I know of, but that doesn't mean it won't happen. By not making them fasten and tighten all lug nuts, you are just playing Russian Roulette with people's safety. There is a reason there are 5 studs on each wheel.
 
1) That race was at Charlotte, if the driver of the car whose wheel detached was Brian Vickers
2) How many times, since NASCAR has removed the lug nut policing, has a wheel come completely detached like Vickers' incident?

IIRC the center of the wheel broke. It happens. You could put 20 lugs on. If the center breaks it doesn't really matter. I'm a little bummed they are going away from the 4 lug nut rule.
 
You don't need to prepare for something that doesn't happen. The technology for lugs has progressed to the point where only 4 need to be attached on the current wheel setup and the wheel will be fine
 
You don't need to prepare for something that doesn't happen. The technology for lugs has progressed to the point where only 4 need to be attached on the current wheel setup and the wheel will be fine


:rolleyes:
 
For the sake of simplification, we'll say that each car completed an average of 10000 miles last season. Is 430,000 miles not enough of a sample size to determine something to be true? How about the ~100,000 miles completed this year without an incident? Combined with last year, that's over 500,000 miles, I'm fine with a sample size that large and no incidents.
 
You don't need to prepare for something that doesn't happen. The technology for lugs has progressed to the point where only 4 need to be attached on the current wheel setup and the wheel will be fine

Rrrrriiiiight, because the teams have never taken a wheel off with 4 of 5 wheel nuts tight to find absolutely no damage whatsoever. I can remember a race where a loose wheel actually buggered up the studs and the team had to re-thread them on pit road. I do not remember which race or team but I distinctly remember that happening.

For the sake of simplification, we'll say that each car completed an average of 10000 miles last season. Is 430,000 miles not enough of a sample size to determine something to be true? How about the ~100,000 miles completed this year without an incident? Combined with last year, that's over 500,000 miles, I'm fine with a sample size that large and no incidents.

So how much more silly will NASCAR as a whole look when a crash happens directly because of a rule they used to have? I tune in to see a good race, I don't tune in to see total recklessness in regards to safety. The rule is back now so the point is moot but it was a stupid thing to stop policing in the first place. Racing is a matter of whens, not ifs when crashes/safety is the subject.
 
Rrrrriiiiight, because the teams have never taken a wheel off with 4 of 5 wheel nuts tight to find absolutely no damage whatsoever. I can remember a race where a loose wheel actually buggered up the studs and the team had to re-thread them on pit road. I do not remember which race or team but I distinctly remember that happening.
That's the risk you take by not putting all 5 lug nuts on, it's self policing in that regards which is better than artificially policing the team by forcing them to come back down pit road as the rule used to be.


So how much more silly will NASCAR as a whole look when a crash happens directly because of a rule they used to have? I tune in to see a good race, I don't tune in to see total recklessness in regards to safety. The rule is back now so the point is moot but it was a stupid thing to stop policing in the first place. Racing is a matter of whens, not ifs when crashes/safety is the subject.
The only entity that will look silly is the team that pushes the envelope too far and costs themselves as a result.
 
Hell, we've seen NASCAR get the rule wrong and have to call a caution (Which you all hate for some reason even though restarts are the best parts of the race) to reverse their mistake more often then a wheel falling off due to all 5 lug nuts not being secure.
 
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