2016 Virgin Australia Supercars Championship - Results and TalkTouring Cars 

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The 300, heck Chryslers anyway, have been sold rhd in Europe for the longest. GM only need look at the success of the 300 down here. PLus, all the AMG makes that clean up in sales.

About Infiniti. When Red Bull announced their interest in V8s, I thought for sure it would be with Rick Kelly. Which I figured Infiniti would partner up due to F1 ties. Didn't pan out as fans in this thread, made it clear RB will only join squads with a chance at championships. As a side note, I was a bit disheartened when the Q50 was in BTCC, as I felt it would be a perfect fit for an updated V8 silhouette. Too bad Nissan aren't doing the old re-badge from the same group stuff.
 
prisonermonkeys
You see a sticking point for sales, I see a ready-made excuse for why the team is under-performing - and a testament to the drivers' skill when they do succeed.
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I really believe they need to slim down to a 2-car operation. 4 cars is just spreading the resources too thin.
 
05XR8
2 factory cars. Todd steps to leave Caruso and Rick as drivers. BJR scoop up the other 2 cars. Easy fix. :D
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At this point Wood is in that 4th car just so that it's on track to parade some sponsor stickers around. They should have just dropped that car. Todd is hit or miss, he's actually doing quite well this season so far. If anything, in 2017 keep Rick's and Caruso's cars, Todd can be Rick's enduro partner and concentrate on making 2 great cars.
 
05XR8
2 factory cars. Todd steps to leave Caruso and Rick as drivers. BJR scoop up the other 2 cars. Easy fix. :D
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I don't think BJR would be too thrilled with that idea.
There'd wanna be a considerably large sum of folding stuff involved for them to even look at it when you take into account their Holden inventory & existing competiveness.
Why upset the apple cart?
 
Pete05
I don't think BJR would be too thrilled with that idea.
There'd wanna be a considerably large sum of folding stuff involved for them to even look at it when you take into account their Holden inventory & existing competiveness.
Why upset the apple cart?
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I can't disagree with that.
Okay. How about Toyota or Lexus factory backing for 2 cars? ;)

Seriously. BJR source pieces to suit there requirements. Frosty mentioned, and there's proof, the Altimas have the power. The most power. Kelly Racing will refine the package continually.

BJR has invested much in the Commodore but, it's not like they snatched up the E63s.
I understand tool in spares, engineering all comes into the dollar value. Trust, I'm not a fantasy land. Something has to give at the end of 2017 or 2018. Is the Commodore going to run into 2019 2years after it ceases production of the VF II? I'm sure teams are knocking on doors for possible options.
 
05XR8
I can't disagree with that.
Okay. How about Toyota or Lexus factory backing for 2 cars? ;)

Seriously. BJR source pieces to suit there requirements. Frosty mentioned, and there's proof, the Altimas have the power. The most power. Kelly Racing will refine the package continually.

BJR has invested much in the Commodore but, it's not like they snatched up the E63s.
I understand tool in spares, engineering all comes into the dollar value. Trust, I'm not a fantasy land. Something has to give at the end of 2017 or 2018. Is the Commodore going to run into 2019 2years after it ceases production of the VF II? I'm sure teams are knocking on doors for possible options.
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With such a shake up of the rulebook coming, any team would be nuts not to be having a look at what's around & which manufacturers might be keen. It must be almost impossible to gauge their interest though without having a complete picture to show them exactly what's on the horizon. If I was a manufacturer, I'd want to know how much coin I'm looking at for a competitive showing and what guarantees I can get that the rulebook isn't going to change over the duration of my commitment.
If you look at Nissan, two things come to my mind. What would their results look like if they had their current aero & engine from day 1? Funny isn't it. Just as they look like a real threat to the top 5 & after spending so much to get there, they're looking at new set of rules. That's gotta sting & make the boardroom nervous.
 
What saved them is that all manufacturers are sticking with their current packages.

I guess it's telling how much R&D Volvo pit in, watching Erebus and Nismo. Garry Rogers didn't even break a sweat when the S60 rolled out in 2014.
 
Scott McLaughlin has put a post up on Facebook saying 'I have got some very exciting news for you all today!', some interesting if it is to do with V8Supercars or his career..
 
Spacegoat
It'd be great if he was announcing that he's going to be staying at GRM for the next few years.
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I'd like that too but I reckon it's too early for it to happen just yet.
A lot of water has to pass under the bridge before we know what's going on. So many question marks surrounding different teams & drivers for 2017.
 
LumpiestFish
I didn't think Lexus had actually said anything yet?
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Lexus were either going to make a commitment to Supercars or GT3 as I recall.
Now that they've shown a GT3, it's the answer Supercars didn't want without actually saying anything.
As for Toyota, in my opinion, if they didn't step up while they were still manufacturing here, it wasn't going to happen. A case of Gen 2 being too late for them to participate on their terms perhaps?
 
Still boggles me the Camry is in NZ Tourers with a Chevrolet V8. How'd they authorize that?
 
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05XR8
Still boggles me the Camera is in NZ Tourers with a Chevrolet V8. How'd they authorize that?
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No factory money I guess. As I see it there's nothing in the Supercar rules preventing someone from being a pioneer with their own money but, they'd want to have very, very deep pockets with the long arms & patience to match.
 
05XR8
Still boggles me the Camry is in NZ Tourers with a Chevrolet V8. How'd they authorize that?
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Isn't it a TRD-sourced 5.0L V8 (or was that just the original plan)?
Anyway, it was an idea conceived and developed by a Toyota Dealer in NZ and (I think) they ended up getting money for other dealers to help run it. No factory support, but the Toyota NZ had no issues with it.
 
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05XR8
http://www.v8supercars.com.au/news/championship/sweden-weekend-key-for-volvo/

I'm sure I'm not the only one, who is confident Volvo could take on the Gen2 rules and run with it. I bet they could develop their turbo 4 or 5 or whatever and lead the way in performance.
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Going by what VCA says in the link above, Scott McLaughlin is a vital piece of the puzzle in getting everyone on board. If he doesn't sign with GRM, what does that do to the whole deal?
As for the turbo 4/5 option, that engine would have to be lighter than the existing V8 & that'd have to provide a benefit in allowing GRM to place ballast where they want, helping handling & tyre performance. I'm also of the opinion they would see a healthier torque number & wider spread of torque over the rev range compared to the V8. It would also solve GRM's long term problem with vibration related failures.
 
It would have to be a selling point for Scott. He knows what Volvo and Garry bring to the table. Class A organization. I'm not in Scotty's shoes but, hello. Volvo/GRM are no joke. Even when GRM ran VEs.
 
05XR8
It would have to be a selling point for Scott. He knows what Volvo and Garry bring to the table. Class A organization. I'm not in Scotty's shoes but, hello. Volvo/GRM are no joke. Even when GRM ran VEs.
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I agree. Whatever alternative deal(s) Scotty is considering, it'll wanna be a very tasty carrot.
 
Anyone watching Inside Supercars? What is this guy talking about Nissan dangling a V8 Nissan and GT3 program in front of Roland Dane?
 

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