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Xfinity series will have an option for composite bodies to be used in some races this year and will eventually use them full time in 2019. Link here.
 
Holy cow they're not gonna be made out of scrap tin foil. :sly: Finally doing the right thing. K&N series uses composite bodies do they not?
 
Holy cow they're not gonna be made out of scrap tin foil. :sly: Finally doing the right thing. K&N series uses composite bodies do they not?
They do. The article mentioned that the K&N series in some aspects was the basis of the idea and will be mostly similar but with some changes like additional bracing for the Xfinity cars compared to the K&N cars.
 
In fairness, its the only series that thrives on driver popularity (so much so, that they wear them out with an exhaustive racing schedule ontop of a relentless PR schedule.) Not to say that others may not have that at all as F1 is possibly the only one to rival it in terms of stringent commitment to sponsors, but nowhere is it more focused on then here in NASCAR. For the longest time, I think just about everyone relied more so on Cup drivers doing everything that its both made it hard to them let them go and its taken a toll on the veteren drivers, likely making them demand more for such an exhaustive amount of their time.

I'd say it was equal, but that NASCAR drivers seem to get maxed out more in the driving area. Running 36 races, the early duels for Daytona, then drivers who are used in the lower series too, seems tiring. Though since F1 drivers have global sponsor commitments that Cup drivers don't I see both being equally has hard on drivers. I've read tweets from Hamilton having to go to the U.S. for PR and Germany and China, add other drivers like Ricciardo going to his home country for the PR there as well. And now with the new owners, and their goals for more one on one between fans and drivers it could eclipse NASCAR.

I guess NASCAR (and F1) get their max use of the drivers while they have them in the series, and drivers can't complain simply because they're making a lot of money, but still.

I would say both those reasons more then likely have a direct connection. Constant rule changes that rival F1 in terms of absolute nonsense along with at times questionable applications of penalties, stacked ontop of a schedule that is just brutal (Not as brutal as say the WWE's since they at least have motorhomes their families can come along in, but still brutal) AND all the constant PR commitments. Hell, just the buildup to Daytona 500 is weeks of PR commitments and appearances for however the hell many sponsors they have. All this while under strict guidelines that they can't do anything else as Kyle Busch has shown, first after being blocked by NASCAR from doing a test for Toyota's F1 team just to sit at a table and look at a trophy he couldn't win while the guy that won it is showered in glits, then again this year trying to set up a Indy 500 ride before being blocked by Joe Gibbs (in the same year that F1 actually allowed Alonso to miss the Monaco GP for the Indy 500). In a sense, NASCAR almost feels like Bernie-era F1 in how they are more or less trying to control what the drivers in their series do while competing and I would imagine that after years of such a restrictive and repetitive pattern, its reached a boiling point for some.

I think every since France Jr took over it has been the American version of FOM style driver conduct rules and gimmicks with teams not helping change that any. I could easily see a guy like Kyle leaving NASCAR a couple years from now too even if he is one of the younger notable veterans. I agree with you on this part, that NASCAR isn't really one to support its drivers and fans. The only reason drivers get away with more when talking to media, is because of the larger backlash they'd face from fans in the already dwindling sells.
 
Metal workers with years and years of fabricating experience are being replaced by a 3/8 ratchet and a guy making $12 hr in receiving.

While we are cutting costs how about going from 20 lugnuts to 4, airjacks, and specialized pit crews stocked with former college athletes making 6 figures.
 
The new Camaro makes the SS look really boring (I kind of thought that even before the Camaro MENCS car was released, the SS wasn't super pretty and it wasn't super ugly).

All in all: It looks freaking awesome.
 
From the Racer article that @AnthonyD1993 linked.
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Yeesh, that's unfortunate looking. The common roof makes it look awkward, the rear flare looks awkward, the remnants of the SS's rear quarter window being visible is awkward...
 
And now I get to be Mr. Buzzkill.

Irwindale Speedway WILL close for good after next January.

To be honest, I'm more surprised it took this long to happen.
 
Manufacturers should be allowed to mod the roofline just saying.

DAG NABBIT THEY TRYING TO PULL ME BACK TO THIS GIMMICK FILLED MESS BUT IT'S WORKING WITH THAT CAMARO. :scared:
 
Y'know, considering the Camaro fits the Monster dudebro demographic a lot more than a midsize sedan, this actually makes a lot of sense.

And with Fusion production moving down Mexico way next year, it wouldn't be surprising at all if Ford answered with a Cup-spec Mustang before the year's out. All those rumors stretching back to the end of the Thunderbird's reign would finally come true!
(this is of course assuming NASCAR doesn't loophole their own regulations about manufacturing location, which they probably will, but y'know.)
 
Y'know, considering the Camaro fits the Monster dudebro demographic a lot more than a midsize sedan, this actually makes a lot of sense.

The Camaro is also alot sharper design wise. Notice the similarities of the front end and the rear QP of this new Camaro and the "2018" Camry Toyota has been using all year. The Camaro was just the better choice as far as competition goes.
 
I love it. Appears more production like. They've got my attention. Now, for an IROC-Z and I'm tuning in for the season.
 
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