2024 US Presidential Election Thread

[Populuxe]

He seems nice.

 

[GBO Possum]

 

[UKMikey]

Trump fans outside the courthouse aren't taking this well:

Spoiler: incessant bad language and reality denial

 

[TB]

1) Who is Bichette Obama?

2) "Gay for Trump" guy - "Let's take to the streets! Let's block traffic."

No one moves.

 

[TexRex]

Holy moly, that bitch is noisy. Anyway...

If I was to start referring to the other bitch as Teresa, should it be Teresa Trump or Donald Teresa?

1) Who is Bichette Obama?

Michelle. "Big Mike."

 

[Famine]

To be fair, Mother Teresa's views on reproductive rights and willingness to hang out with and defend child molesters would have put her in good standing with the Republicans today...

 

[Blitz24]

1) Who is Bichette Obama?

Apparently Barack's cousin whose father was a big fan of Dante Bichette?

 

[inCloud]

Opinion | I’ve Seen How the Biden-Trump Rematch Ends, and It’s Pretty Scary

Russia’s election in 1996 is a cautionary tale for America.

www.nytimes.com

 

[McLaren]

Opinion | I’ve Seen How the Biden-Trump Rematch Ends, and It’s Pretty Scary

Russia’s election in 1996 is a cautionary tale for America.

www.nytimes.com

You're posting an article behind a paywall. Post the important parts of the article or all of it, please.

 

[ScottPuss20]

This whole hush money saga is going to give Trump a lot more support...

 

[TexRex]

The rats what were going to vote for Trump are going to vote for Trump even more.

 

[Danoff]

This whole hush money saga is going to give Trump a lot more support...

Nothing like a chance to vote for a convicted felon amirite?

 

[Bendough]

This whole hush money saga is going to give Trump a lot more support...

I’m genuinely curious why you think that. Has anyone in your circles said that? On TV that’s not Fox News or newsmax? On twitter it’s only people who have clearly been trumpets all along. Hearing convicted felon Donal Trump every day until the election will do more damage than good to the Republican Party

 

[ScottPuss20]

I’m genuinely curious why you think that. Has anyone in your circles said that? On TV that’s not Fox News or newsmax? On twitter it’s only people who have clearly been trumpets all along. Hearing convicted felon Donal Trump every day until the election will do more damage than good to the Republican Party

Well the harder the Democrats go in on Trump, the more people will turn their back on them and vote Republican.

 

[eran0004]

Well the harder the Democrats go in on Trump, the more people will turn their back on them and vote Republican.

The People of the State of New York - not the Democrats.

 

[Imari]

Well the harder the Democrats go in on Trump, the more people will turn their back on them and vote Republican.

Honestly, with that sort of people if it wasn't one thing it would be the other. If someone decides to vote for Trump because he was fairly convicted of significant crimes, then they were going to find an excuse to vote for him anyway. If he had gotten off, they still probably would have voted for him because "the Democrats" went after him at all.

There's no sense trying to pander to people who are completely divorced from reality. You do the right thing, and then if it turns out that the country is 51% dingleberries that think convicting criminals of crimes is wrong because they happen to be a rich white dude what was on TV then so be it.

In the words of the great American thinker Forrest Gump, "stupid is as stupid does".

 

[inCloud]

You're posting an article behind a paywall. Post the important parts of the article or all of it, please.

Its text from one of the most liberal journalists in Russia with high expertise in Russian politics of 90s and 10s.

Point of text is that whole Trump vs Biden situation is closely resembles our elections from 1996. In our elections it was Yelcin(capitalist) vs Zuganov(socialist). Yelcin was infirm dying alcoholic with dying ratings, while Zuganov was active, charismatic to a degree and his party was on the rise.

Whole media started hysteria about comeback to USSR, censorship and nationalisation of everything, which was fueled by oligarchy money. At the end, Zuganov was demonized to the ground.

Whole problem could being solved, if instead of Yelcin someone younger and with less antirating was nominated from capitalistic forces. Instead, authoritarian leader stayed at rule, than transferred power to another authoritarian leader and here we are.

There could be more takes, but I can't read whole thing because of same paywall.

 

[TheCracker]

Well the harder the Democrats go in on Trump, the more people will turn their back on them and vote Republican.

No one who was on the fence, who hadn't made up their minds which way to vote, is going to vote Trump now he's a convicted felon. Trump supporters would vote Trump no matter what he's done. He could wipe his arse on the flag on national TV and it would make no difference to his cult. But no undecided voter is going to see this verdict and feel so sorry for him that they give him the sympathy vote.

 

[McLaren]

Well the harder the Democrats go in on Trump, the more people will turn their back on them and vote Republican.

Explain this reasoning, please.

Because it's been shown with Nikki Haley's voters (who are Independents/Republicans), that a conviction ruling is something they listed as being unfit to hold office.

Much of the criticism of Trump comes from Haley voters, who turned out for Ohio's primary despite her departure from the race. (Absentee voting in Ohio opened Feb. 21, two weeks before Haley suspended her campaign.)

Among her supporters, 88% would be dissatisfied with Trump as the nominee, 91% said he lacks the temperament for office and 88% said he'd be unfit if convicted. Eight in 10 said they wouldn't vote for him in the general election, with 47% preferring Biden and 32% saying they wouldn't vote for either candidate.

Nearly half of Haley voters in Ohio say they'd back Biden: Exit polls

Among voters supporting Nikki Haley in preliminary exit poll results, nearly half say they’d back Joe Biden in November.

abcnews.go.com

This is from March. Below is from today.

Matthew Labkovski, a 26-year-old Republican medical student in South Florida, was torn between supporting President Joe Biden, Trump or a third-party candidate after backing Haley in the primary. After Thursday's verdict, he's choosing between voting for Biden or not voting at all.

"It's crazy that we have a former president as a felon," Labkovski said. "I think it's just a sad day for U.S. politics, but hope it inspires change in everyone ... [I'm] more likely not to vote for him now."

Mark, a 37-year-old private investigator from Miami, is an independent voter who said the verdict made that decision not to vote for Trump clear for him.

"It was [an] option, it was possible, but now it's like no, it's not [an] option," he said of voting for Trump.

Will Trump's conviction sway voters? Some offer first reactions

Several voters from across the country spoke with ABC News in the moments following Trump's conviction, sharing how it affects their views of the presumptive GOP nominee.

abcnews.go.com

 

[UKMikey]

 

[CTznOfTime]

That's too good to be true...is it ?

I would pay to see that...

It says "New", not "News:" so I am skeptical

So it is just a new wish ? Or (fake 😔) news?

Oral argument session is just a practice session where trump lawyers will test their wildest ideas and see which one would sticks, and then refine their counter arguments....

Let's just allow them to move forward without much practice, I want them to present all their wildest ideas and counter arguments in front of a real jury...

 

[TexRex]

lol. lmao.

I don't think it's trolling because Dan is more a partisan hack than a troll, but I don't imagine it would look any different if it was.

This isn't accurate. It's certainly a possibility because that particular panel has heard at least one case (it made the news in...February?), but the New York Supreme Court Appellate Division, First Judicial Department seats 21 justices from whom a panel of five will be chosen at random and subject to availability.

Appellate Division - First Judicial Department

 

[UKMikey]

This isn't accurate. It's certainly a possibility because that particular panel has heard at least one case (it made the news in...February?), but the New York Supreme Court Appellate Division, First Judicial Department seats 21 justices from whom a panel of five will be chosen at random and subject to availability.

Appellate Division - First Judicial Department

It sounds like they might all be from the Second Judicial Department anyway.

In an Historic First, Brooklyn-Based Appeals Court Sits Panel Fully Comprised of Women of Color | New York Law Journal

For the first time in its history, the Appellate Term, Second Department empaneled three women of color to hear oral arguments.

www.law.com

 

[TexRex]

It sounds like they might all be from the Second Judicial Department anyway.

In an Historic First, Brooklyn-Based Appeals Court Sits Panel Fully Comprised of Women of Color | New York Law Journal

For the first time in its history, the Appellate Term, Second Department empaneled three women of color to hear oral arguments.

www.law.com

That seems to be either a different story or an error in reporting.

Justices Pitt-Burke, Webber, Renwick and Kennedy pictured above appear to match their bios on the 1st Dept. website. Justice Michael isn't pictured in her bio.

 

[Clinton Ducks]

that think convicting criminals of crimes is wrong because they happen to be a rich white dude what was on TV then so be it.

That’s not the reason people vote for Trump

 

[Liquid]

That’s not the reason people vote for Trump

Enlighten us.

 

[Clinton Ducks]

Enlighten us.

They vote for him because he tells them
what they want to hear. It may be that him being a rich guy on TV got him his soapbox, but if he used that soapbox to expound left wing rhetoric, those same people wouldn’t vote for him.

I can’t believe I had to explain that, but there you go.

“They only like him because he’s a rich white man on TV”, indeed.

 

[UKMikey]

They vote for him because he tells them
what they want to hear. It may be that him being a rich guy on TV got him his soapbox, but if he used that soapbox to expound left wing rhetoric, those same people wouldn’t vote for him.

I can’t believe I had to explain that, but there you go.

“They only like him because he’s a rich white man on TV”, indeed.

Anyone could tell them what they wanted to hear. He's not the only candidate expounding right wing rhetoric to get elected. Why do they pick him in particular over the others saying the same thing? Because a rich white man from the TV makes a better figurehead for the right. They and he are trading on his celebrity.

Can't believe I had to explain that.

 

[Clinton Ducks]

Anyone could tell them what they wanted to hear. He's not the only candidate expounding right wing rhetoric to get elected. Why do they pick him in particular over the others saying the same thing? Because a rich white man from the TV makes a better figurehead for the right. They and he are trading on his celebrity.

Can't believe I had to explain that.

Read what I said again please.

 

[Pupik]

They vote for him because they believe in his fairy tales. These bedtime stories are all told by twisting and demonizing everything his competition has said and also mocking everyone else that won't believe in him while subsequently expounding a tremendous amount of noise and fury signifying a number approaching zero. In short, everyone else doesn't love America as much, so you'll ignore that he continually wipes his ass on our flag at the same time while having his half-wit hounds point at some boogeyman and claiming we're in the worst times EvAr!1! is why they vote for Trump.

Many others have just never voted blue and aren't going to start now, which at least is an honest excuse.