450pp Street Car Tuners Club -- Nightly 9:45-12:00 EDT

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I really don't understand this bug. I hosted for 2 hours last night and we had between 5 and 11 people. The only lag or hiccup I saw was on the final race. If someone else wants to try their hand at hosting...just get into my lobby before I arrive some night. Anyone can enter my lobby before I get there.
 
Any theme suggestions for next week? We did Mitsu Monday and Toyota Tuesday this week. We could do other manufacturers this week, or pull out an old theme. You guys decide before I do.
 
Any theme suggestions for next week? We did Mitsu Monday and Toyota Tuesday this week. We could do other manufacturers this week, or pull out an old theme. You guys decide before I do.

Wagon night!
 
Yuritardid won the first race so its his pick for next week. The Fiat was fun at Monza, tons of drafting. However two cars at the front of the grid could pull away very easily. Both races I got stuck just out of drafting distance and watched the two leaders take off. I hit the chicanes as best I could but there was nothing I could do to make up the extra second or so they were getting from bump drafting.

The rest of the races were tough since I didn't spend any time tuning the car. I had very bad throttle understeer and braking wasn't to great either. I think I managed 3rd behind WiiFreak and either Yuri or Esh every race. Cape Ring Periphery I did better though. WiiFreak and I battled each lap but I think my car had more grip and/or control through the loop-de-loop. However there was a little lag being introduced and at one point his car jumped in front, then behind me. He was close at the finish though and I think I took first by .007 seconds.

I didn't notice anyone driving invisible last night but I could be wrong. Perhaps we should try some of Punch's suggestions in the other thread about being invisible, like having a fixed host, leaving the mics off etc. and see if it makes a difference. If it doesn't make any difference and you want mic's back on for example, you can always recreate a standard lobby and be up and running again in 5 minutes.

I got an hour or so in tuning the Fiat at DF Reverse and Tsukuba (too bad we didn't go there...lol) and it worked out quite well for me. At Monza, I thought I was clear of Wii but he caught my draft so we bump drafted in the first 10 lapper to keep ahead of third which worked out well....lol. I think it was 1/100th difference at the line and in the second race 1/10th margin of victory....darn close racing. I had just run some RM Cappuccino races there last week, and bump drafting was key there as well.

I just started working on an S2000 and I wouldn't mind that for a one make race. Fairly easy to tune and drive and readily available. Would it be possible to use any non-tuner S2000 from the UCD or NCD instead of one particular model? I think that would be ideal because I'm sure everyone has one or more of some of the models and might simplify things and make it easier for more people to participate. Of course, no Spoon's or Amuses or any of that kind of stuff.

If you aren't keen on the idea of the multiple model S2000's then I'd go with an FT86 Concept, the basic one, not the Sports Concept, although I don't know if there's much difference. I think it's a prize car and it's in the NCD so not hard to find.

If anyone is interested I can post the setup I used for the Fiat when I get back on Monday. I can tell you off hand I think the keys were a softer suspension, ballast, and the high rpm turbo and adjusting the front ride height to suit the track. I think WiiFreak was overall faster than I was (as usual) so it isn't the be all and end all set up that's for sure, but it might help some of the guys that are struggling with the stock set up be more competitive. If anyone is interested let me know, and I'll put it up next week.
 
Wagon/MiniVan night would be fun.
 
If the FT86 is in the NCD, we can go with that. We can try Wagon night...but have a few ready because there are some significantly faster than others. For example, the Volvo is complete garbage.

My Fiat tune was similar to yours. I installed all the performance parts including stage 3 engine and high rpm turbo. Then I added ballast to the rear and ran a slightly higher front ride height. The tune was OK at Monza but it took a few more races to realize I didn't compensate correctly for the added weight in the trunk with stiffer springs back there. By Eiger, I had switched to WiiFreak's suggestion of using the mid-rpm turbo. I stayed close for about a lap and then lost it since I don't know the line and most of the turns are blind. At Cape Reverse I had tons more grip around the loop, not sure if WiiFreak's LSD settings were too high or if he was just pushing it too hard. I was basically full throttle around the loop and could hold the bottom of the track to pass him.
 
I was using something like -.12/-.15 toe and only 1.6/1.0 camber and had no problem kicking the rear end out on that thing. Too easy even @ Leguna. I was way faster in every corner @ Eiger but was always passed by yuri on what I guess is considered the straight.

-12/-20 ride height
7/6 springs
def dampers

lsd was something like 7/18/12
 
By the end of the night I was at...

+5 / -5 height
6 / 5.8 springs
def dampers
5 / 5 rollbars
0.5 / 0.5 camber
-0.05 / 0.00 toe

I never have luck with such high camber settings. I always feel like my car loses braking capacity. Maybe the high camber must go with the lower height and stiffer springs to work.
 
At Cape Reverse I had tons more grip around the loop, not sure if WiiFreak's LSD settings were too high or if he was just pushing it too hard. I was basically full throttle around the loop and could hold the bottom of the track to pass him.

I had my car set up really loose, so when I was going through the loop my car was actually oversteering. Everytime it got a little loose I would lose speed which is why I was so slow through there.

Here are my suspension settings. I actually took this setup off of RKM's Yaris tune as I figured the settings would transfer well. I first used this setup months ago in a short Fiat 500 one make series and it worked well there so I've stuck with the setup.

Ride Height: -25/-25
Spring Rate: 7.5/2.0
Extension:-- 6/3
Compression: 5/2
Anti-Roll:-- 1/2
Camber:----- 1.4/1.3
Toe:-------- –0.15/0.00


I also ran 200kg of ballast in order to fit in as much power as possible.
 
Any theme suggestions for next week? We did Mitsu Monday and Toyota Tuesday this week. We could do other manufacturers this week, or pull out an old theme. You guys decide before I do.


Banned/Tuner Car Night - FT 86s and Tuner Cars at 450pp and CS tires

Summer Sucks Night - Only rain and snow tracks (Full damage on, unlimited tire selection - But realize this, the track is slick.)

Sedan Night - 4 doors + trunk deck over 4200mm wheelbase 450pp SS tires

375pp night - take what we learned from the 400 pp night some weeks back and stretch it further.
 
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Comfort Hard tire night at the ring. (no 4wd)

lol.
 
Just thought of more.

TV/Movie/Celebrity Car Night - 450pp and SS tires There are a lot more of them in this game than just orange Chargers and white Beetles but if you're called on it you got to say definitively where its from.

RR Night - RUFs, DMCs, Alpines, VWs

Sport Compact Night - 2 doors + hatchback + over 4200mm wheelbase
 
I had some real frustration with my Fiat 500's transmission. Would anyone care to share so I could compare what I did wrong?
 
I really don't understand this bug. I hosted for 2 hours last night and we had between 5 and 11 people. The only lag or hiccup I saw was on the final race. If someone else wants to try their hand at hosting...just get into my lobby before I arrive some night. Anyone can enter my lobby before I get there.

Yeah it's no big deal, it's obviously something with the game or between you and I for connection. I log into leadbedr's room or dabney's and i'm on all night. And you're there too. But then I try to hook up on your room sometimes and get disconnected a couple minutes in. It's strange. My connection is good.
 
Yeah it's no big deal, it's obviously something with the game or between you and I for connection. I log into leadbedr's room or dabney's and i'm on all night. And you're there too. But then I try to hook up on your room sometimes and get disconnected a couple minutes in. It's strange. My connection is good.

I'm always happy to host. I can't guarantee Friday or Saturday nights, but most every other night I'm on.
 
Any theme suggestions for next week?

And yet another idea

Drive Your Driver Night - Where you drive YOUR everyday car. Not your dad's Corvette, not your brother's Ferrari. If you drive a broke down Somethingorother, you have a couple of days to buy a real life rocket sled to justify your entry for that night.
 
And yet another idea

Drive Your Driver Night - Where you drive YOUR everyday car. Not your dad's Corvette, not your brother's Ferrari. If you drive a broke down Somethingorother, you have a couple of days to buy a real life rocket sled to justify your entry for that night.

I believe I suggested that a while ago... but it is still a great idea.

(grenade cannot use his nsx... im sure it would beat most of the somethingorothers out there)
 
And yet another idea

Drive Your Driver Night - Where you drive YOUR everyday car. Not your dad's Corvette, not your brother's Ferrari. If you drive a broke down Somethingorother, you have a couple of days to buy a real life rocket sled to justify your entry for that night.

No SE-R Spec-V in GT5, so no go for me. I don't even think there's a car with the QR25 in it. I'll have to look harder.
 
Well, you two still have time to pick up a rocket sled before the race.

Btw. 3rd gen Camaros are cheap.
 
My Daily driver Mazdaspeed6 is OK if we run comfort tires. Not very fast on SS tires though... If we did a daily driver night, I guess people would have to pick competitors of their cars if the exact model didn't exist...or pick something that was at least similar (like if you drive a toyota camry, pick a generic FF sedan.
 
chuyler1
My Daily driver Mazdaspeed6 is OK if we run comfort tires. Not very fast on SS tires though... If we did a daily driver night, I guess people would have to pick competitors of their cars if the exact model didn't exist...or pick something that was at least similar (like if you drive a toyota camry, pick a generic FF sedan.

What if my daily driver is a viper?
 
That is sort what I would have to do. I drive a GMC Sierra extra-cab. The closest thing for me is the Silverado SST Concept.
 
Well, my Focus is technically in the game but IRL it has the standard 170hp. I'm supposing this night would allow us the same mods as usual though they might not be on the car in real life.

The S60R would probably be in the same group as the Mazdaspeed 6 if it were in the game. The T5 is unfortunately not even close, even when fully tuned.

Luckily, the ST170 is quite competitive overall, not just on Hot Hatch night. So I support this idea.
 
k_riens
You would be driving a 450pp Viper.

Have fun on Tsukuba and don't get beat by a Mazdaspeed6 or a truck.

Lol I won't use a viper too much power limiter I would have 200 and weight 1700kg.
 
Lol I won't use a viper too much power limiter I would have 200 and weight 1700kg.

Too bad, it would be interesting to see what the outcome would be of a race between a Viper down on power against a Focus with a parts catalog thrown at it.
 
k_riens
Too bad, it would be interesting to see what the outcome would be of a race between a Viper down on power against a Focus with a parts catalog thrown at it.

I would have my money on the focus lol
 
That Focus is no joke. It's not the best handling FF but I think it has one of the best overall packages. I can't quite get it to rotate enough on turn in, but everything else is superb.
 
I'm always happy to host. I can't guarantee Friday or Saturday nights, but most every other night I'm on.

I think I sent you a friend request last night as well so I can log on and play through you the nights that chuyler is running another race series. I can only join through him, grenade and booch.
 
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