450pp Street Car Tuners Club -- Nightly 9:45-12:00 EDT

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Since there is no foxbody mustang can i just drive the newer one?
 
I'd have to drive a minivan either way :p

How about roadsters: S2000, Griffith 500, Tamora, etc.?
 
Haha, I'm not even old enough to drive :lol:. If anybody is hosting tonight, I'll probably join.
 
Yet another race idea

Orphan Car Night - everyone drives cars from brands no longer in business (Plymouth, Pontiac, Triumph, etc.)
 
Haha, I'm not even old enough to drive :lol:. If anybody is hosting tonight, I'll probably join.

I've been able to drive for longer than you've been alive.
 
I've been able to buy booze longer than he's been alive.
 
Which cars sport a VR6 besides the R32?

I like the wagon idea. I drive a 96 Passat VR6 Wagon, except of course when it's in the shop getting cheap plastics parts replaced with new cheap plastic parts...
 
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450pp open, start with toscana 👍
 
Got a really bad connection to your room and cannot join...
 
I don't know if I figured something out or have just confused myself more after about 20 mins of research as far the PSN and what NAT Type 2 and 3 do and mean to players connecting to other players.

My connection to cenk's room was essentially refused, or so I thought, for most of the night. I didn't think it was my issue until I decided to throw my ps3 in what most home routers/firewalls call a DMZ, which just allows unfiltered access to a LAN IP from the internet. A DMZ in an enterprise is used more as a buffer between the outside and the LAN to restrict access, mostly for web and/or remote access services. Generally, using the DMZ on a home router is only good for testing purposes.

So I am NAT 2, and I am to assume that cenk or someone else in the room that needed to connect to me to complete the mesh was NAT 3. Either way, I checked my firewall logs and there were 2 connections getting filtered up until the time I started using the DMZ:

Code:
Aug 12 23:56:50 ROUTER1 user.warn kernel: DROP IN=vlan1 OUT= MAC=00:21:29:cd:50:a2:00:90:1a:a3:63:9c:08:00:45:20:00:7a SRC=67.xxx.xxx.xxx DST=108.xxx.xxx.xxx LEN=122 TOS=0x00 PREC=0x20 TTL=253 ID=21958 PROTO=UDP SPT=3729 DPT=63906 LEN=102 
Aug 12 23:56:50 ROUTER1 user.warn kernel: DROP IN=vlan1 OUT= MAC=00:21:29:cd:50:a2:00:90:1a:a3:63:9c:08:00:45:00:00:7a SRC=70.xxx.xxx.xxx DST=108.xxx.xxx.xxx LEN=122 TOS=0x00 PREC=0x00 TTL=250 ID=21856 PROTO=UDP SPT=61070 DPT=63906 LEN=102

Those 2 IP's were residential from San Diego and Jacksonville, FL. I did a search on the ports the PSN needs forwarded and 3729 and 61070 were not on that list, unless the docs were old. I'm also not quite sure why I haven't had this issue before.

One scenerio that I can think of as to why this happens is that if UPnP isn't working properly for NAT Type 2 users, which according to the connection self-test the ps3 does was the case for me, and if another user is NAT Type 3, the Type 3 player forces Type 2 to allow the incoming connection, which my firewall was blocking for some reason. I think Type 2 means that UPnP is working and you can accept connections from the outside and Type 3 means UPnP is disabled or not functioning and you must connect to someone else. It could also be based on available bandwidth. Can't find the link to the scant documentation Sony provides I read last night.

Anyway, long and not all too informative, but I remember when BTK had an issue connecting to chuyler's lounge after getting a new router, and grenade thought chuyler was the one that needed to put his ps3 in the DMZ. It was BTK that probably did as his firewall was most likely filtering packets from someone in the room that needed to connect to him for the topology to work right.
 
My router did not come with UPnP enabled by default. I had to turn it on. It could be that some users don't have it enabled and are forced to default to a different connection type. That could be the reason the same drivers always have visibility problems.
 
It looks like you guys finally figured out the bug :)

if nobody is hosting, I can put up a room for tonight. I had some gf rage last night after GVE runs :crazy: I guess she called me a million times to ask for carry up help with groceries, but I had my headphones on lol Then she needed a modem reset as the pos macbook cannot see it when it wakes up from stand by. Sorry, had to leave a bit early.

I'm off today, so thinking of a tuning session about 230-3PST before the races. I'll post that room if anybody wants to join in for some laps at the ring.

As far as "race what you drive IRL" night idea, I would like to offer "race what you would really drive IRL". I know some people never really got around more important things to finally buy what they always wanted to, so this could inspire some of us..Maybe make an effort to get rid of the paid off daily driver, get a loan for a 2011 WRX or something..
 
How about a 450pp Allstar night? Where we only drive the top performing cars in the range. I think it would be cool to have the top 15 or so cars going at it. We could also end up with a "no ones going to be impressed if you win" list for the rest of the series.
 
450pp open track / tune day,

starting with Nurburgring 3-4PM (pst)

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As far as "race what you drive IRL" night idea, I would like to offer "race what you would really drive IRL".

No, that happens on Friday and Saturday nights in the Open 450pp nights. The idea here was to go get YOUR car and throw a parts catalog at it or tune it way beyond what anyone would want to use on the street and see how it performs.

However I did not think of what to do if someone does not have a daily driver because they may not be of driving age yet. Is there a car we could designate as a driver's ed car in the NCD for those that fit into this category ? My driver's ed car was a Plymouth Reliant and I don't see that fine, fine automobile in the NCD.

Volkswagen Golf IV GTI ’01 as designated driver's ed car ???
 
Doesn't look like any of the reg hosts are on....

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Join in if you like
 
No new themes?
 
However I did not think of what to do if someone does not have a daily driver because they may not be of driving age yet. Is there a car we could designate as a driver's ed car in the NCD for those that fit into this category ? My driver's ed car was a Plymouth Reliant and I don't see that fine, fine automobile in the NCD.

Volkswagen Golf IV GTI ’01 as designated driver's ed car ???

I vote for the lupo cup car for underage drivers :dopey:
 
not going to make it tonight. someone please host. i didnt get to the schedule either so who ever hosts can pick the theme.
 
i can host until 830ish PST

450pp FT86 night, start with GVE

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i can host until 830ish PST

450pp FT86 night, start with GVE

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I don't know that one-make is much of a theme. I would think that would take much more planning.
 
I don't know that one-make is much of a theme. I would think that would take much more planning.

Yeah, that wasn't much fun. :indiff:
 
I thought the one make race this week was gonna be the FT86? Do you want to change it if it's been done already?
 
Thursday is usually one-make night. If you guys ran it all last night I'll pick something different.
 
If you are changing it can you go with my alternate choice, the Honda S2000?. Lot's of models to choose from, readily available, everyone should have one.
 
What's the theme for tonight? Kei Car, 450?
 
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