450pp Street Car Tuners Club -- Nightly 9:45-12:00 EDT

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We need some new themes. There were only about 5 people that showed up last Tuesday for rotary night, which was a good idea I think.

I'ld like to see wagons, MR, maybe a night where a tune is picked from the tuning forum on a premium car and everyone runs the same exact setup, skylines, AWD, german cars only. I don't know but something new!
 
dont worry chuyler, yesterday after the first cry i decided that it was the last night with you. its not fun anymore. in fact after the grenade criyn on monaco i have realised that. maybe you should see more f1 and wtcc and less ****** nascar. overtake its not about having more hp and draft, its about skills. im sorry becouse i like the formula and i have had some very great fun racing with you. i hope to have the chance to race again with real drivers like nic that liked to challenge within fast drivers and improve instead of whine when nothing happens. ciao
 
Maybe I'm missing something but F1 drivers don't use other drivers as a brake under any circumstances. I don't know what races you watch to think your passes are clean 100% of the time or that that should be considered a skill.
 
Hot Hatches tonight. Haven't done those in a while. 2-door, Front Engine, Front Drive only. I will allow the CRX and Integra even though I don't really consider them notch-back hatchbacks...but they don't get used on other nights so if you want to run them by all means go ahead...but if it turns out they are dominating the track, have something you'd consider a classic european hatchback prepared as a substitute.
 
I might be able to join tonight and test the new connection. I'm guessing it'll be pretty laggy, so I probably won't stick around.
 
frankygt-r
dont worry chuyler, yesterday after the first cry i decided that it was the last night with you. its not fun anymore. in fact after the grenade criyn on monaco i have realised that. maybe you should see more f1 and wtcc and less ****** nascar. overtake its not about having more hp and draft, its about skills. im sorry becouse i like the formula and i have had some very great fun racing with you. i hope to have the chance to race again with real drivers like nic that liked to challenge within fast drivers and improve instead of whine when nothing happens. ciao
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esh
Maybe I'm missing something but F1 drivers don't use other drivers as a brake under any circumstances. I don't know what races you watch to think your passes are clean 100% of the time or that that should be considered a skill.
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As Esh stated, none of your pass attempts last night were F1 style...you would have been driving around without a front left tire.

Your pass on Grenade last week, was clean, but slightly mis-calculated. He whined but when I watched it, I would've done the same thing. You caught him in a mistake and capitalized on it. However, if it were F1, you would have lost your front wing.

Last night, however was not the case. If you get within half a car length of someone entering a brake zone, attempting to out brake them is perfectly fine if they leave the inside line open...but you are coming in from 3..4..5 car lengths back. You seem to think we don't know where the brake zone is. We are all running quick laps and managing to stay off each other's fenders. You are the only one dive bombing, destroying your car, bouncing off, then taking off down the track to find wreak havoc on the next poor schmuck. Join the dirty racing room if that's the kind of racing you want to do. Or better yet, try a room with damage on full and see how long you last with your quote-unquote F1 tactics.

There are times in F1, NASCAR, and Grand Am where one car is simply slower than another and you have to just wait until another driver makes a mistake. That's how I make my way to the front. I draft-pass the cars I am quicker than, and I wait for the faster cars to make mistakes.
 
chuyler1
I was surpised at how much everyone broke apart at GVE-R. We usually have real tight races there.
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Three people wrecked seperately at that first left after the tunnel. There were only 7 cars in that race.
 
Ahh, I almost wrecked there a few times. I couldn't get any forward bite entering that turn.
 
chuyler1
If you get within half a car length of someone entering a brake zone, attempting to out brake them is perfectly fine if they leave the inside line open...but you are coming in from 3..4..5 car lengths back. You seem to think we don't know where the brake zone is. We are all running quick laps and managing to stay off each other's fenders. You are the only one dive bombing, destroying your car, bouncing off, then taking off down the track to find wreak havoc on the next poor schmuck. Join the dirty racing room if that's the kind of racing you want to do. Or better yet, try a room with damage on full and see how long you last with your quote-unquote F1 tactics.

There are times in F1, NASCAR, and Grand Am where one car is simply slower than another and you have to just wait until another driver makes a mistake. That's how I make my way to the front. I draft-pass the cars I am quicker than, and I wait for the faster cars to make mistakes.
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I suggest this technique for those dive bombers;
brake a little earlier & lighter
let him aim at you
step back on the throttle as he is coming towards you and pull away, back on the brakes, take the turn..

watch him go off LOL

I might join you guys tonight although FWD is not my thing.. I like clean racing !

cheers
cenk
 
chuyler1
As Esh stated, none of your pass attempts last night were F1 style...you would have been driving around without a front left tire.

Your pass on Grenade last week, was clean, but slightly mis-calculated. He whined but when I watched it, I would've done the same thing. You caught him in a mistake and capitalized on it. However, if it were F1, you would have lost your front wing.

Last night, however was not the case. If you get within half a car length of someone entering a brake zone, attempting to out brake them is perfectly fine if they leave the inside line open...but you are coming in from 3..4..5 car lengths back. You seem to think we don't know where the brake zone is. We are all running quick laps and managing to stay off each other's fenders. You are the only one dive bombing, destroying your car, bouncing off, then taking off down the track to find wreak havoc on the next poor schmuck. Join the dirty racing room if that's the kind of racing you want to do. Or better yet, try a room with damage on full and see how long you last with your quote-unquote F1 tactics.

There are times in F1, NASCAR, and Grand Am where one car is simply slower than another and you have to just wait until another driver makes a mistake. That's how I make my way to the front. I draft-pass the cars I am quicker than, and I wait for the faster cars to make mistakes.
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destroy my car? i do not have any damage. the only thing i got destroyed was my balls driving behind you. you can only drive like my granny wait for the straight to draft with your stupid overpowered cars. i have raced in other rooms with gtp guys like the spitfire event and i only recieved compliments for my driving. you and your friends are only frustrated becouse you are not good at this game. you said that my car was too fast on straight on GVEr when i only have 250 hp and a wing on it lol! you are patetic! i was able to run in 09 without a wing my friend. i suggest you to watch some of my replays so you ll be able to learn something, how can be fun to drive like you do? why dont you have posted the top gear race? that was the most pathetic thing i ever see, you and your friends tryin to hit me, grow up guys. p.s. even in my worst night i have never did something as dirty as you did on nic at the ring. the funny thing is that you said that you ve not saw him when he was ahead lol
 
Yeah, we should run full damage when AOK is in the room, see how many laps he has to pit. I bet all of them.
 
dabneyd
Yeah, we should run full damage when AOK is in the room, see how many laps he has to pit. I bet all of them.
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and how many laps i ll give to you noob
 
Damage is obviously relative. Had damage full been on, you would have come out of any one of those pass attempts with suspension and possibly engine damage.

I am at the limit in my cars every race regardless of what it looks like from behind. We have already gone over this. I almost never put a wing on my car or perform weight reduction. I am slow in the corners because it allows me to be fast in the straights. The strategy works quite well for 75% of the tracks in the game.

As for the 240RS...it is quite possibly THE fastest straight line car on 80's night, no matter how you tune it. If all the regulars were on last night my Lancer would have been a mid-pack car. I know it isn't fast, at least not as fast as my RX-7, RUF, MR2, 240RS, RS200 or just about any other 80's car I've ran in the past. I was cooking the tires on every turn just to maintain the pace of other cars on the track the first 3 races. You can see the smoke billowing from my tires on Tsukuba not because I'm running a bad line, but because the car just doesn't want to turn.

As for driving like a granny...you may want to save that comment for drivers that can't get a pole position to save their life. I can run up front, I can keep the car on the track, and I can keep my opponent's car on the track so we can battle lap after lap. Once in the front, I generally back off to prevent leaving an inside line exposed. That's what racers do. They don't overshoot every turn in hopes of making a passing attempt out of it.
 
Yes because I'm consistently complained about. Even my name has become another term for "divebombing inside someone and pushing them to the outside of the corner." Oh wait, that's you.
 
AOK is the only driver who consistently causes problems on the track. I know this is a game, but the rules for this room are to drive the car like it was real. Would you REALLY smash the front end of your car against the rearend of another car to make a turn? NO. IRL you would destroy your radiator, engine mounts, suspension, etc. and take yourself and the other driver out of the race. If it was IRL on a real race track you would be banned for life.
 
dabneyd
Yes because I'm consistently complained about. Even my name has become another term for "divebombing inside someone and pushing them to the outside of the corner." Oh wait, that's you.
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LOL!

A good test for AOK: reverse start in a room full of drivers like me. I'm rubbish, I brake early, and I can't tune a car, but when I'm in the 450 rooms I don't wreck others.

The challenge would be, can AOK pass us all cleanly?

As an aside, I think the 450 room should have full damage.
 
polizei
AOK is the only driver who consistently causes problems on the track. I know this is a game, but the rules for this room are to drive the car like it was real. Would you REALLY smash the front end of your car against the rearend of another car to make a turn? NO. IRL you would destroy your radiator, engine mounts, suspension, etc. and take yourself and the other driver out of the race. If it was IRL on a real race track you would be banned for life.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zXkWUCBoe4k&feature=related

in real gt races contacts are normal, what chuyler made to nic is not normal. sure if you watch nascar you cannot know what a rase really is
 
Vol Jbolaz
LOL!

A good test for AOK: reverse start in a room full of drivers like me. I'm rubbish, I brake early, and I can't tune a car, but when I'm in the 450 rooms I don't wreck others.

The challenge would be, can AOK pass us all cleanly?

As an aside, I think the 450 room should have full damage.
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i remember that in the same make race with tt i started from 15 and i was second after a lap without touching another car. i won after a good battle with nic. obviusly that video its not here
 
frankygt-r
i remember that in the same make race with tt i started from 15 and i was second after a lap without touching another car. i won after a good battle with nic. obviusly that video its not here
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Which track was that ?
 
k_riens
Which track was that ?
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If he's talking about the Tamora night, I won that race. Nic and I chased each other that whole time. Later after I got passed Grenade who was leading, Nic and AOK, were racing with grenade. He might be referring too that trial mountain race, but it was not very clean.
 
BTK
If he's talking about the Tamora night, I won that race. Nic and I chased each other that whole time. Later after I got passed Grenade who was leading, Nic and AOK, were racing with grenade. He might be referring too that trial mountain race, but it was not very clean.
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He said the TT night. It was a couple months ago, but I still have 3 replays from that night.




Also who has pic for Thursday 1 make.

The finish was :

1. Wiifreak
2. iforcev8
3. Twitchie
4. bullseye916
5. me
6. Nic
7. chuyler
8. dabney....
 
frankygt-r
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zXkWUCBoe4k&feature=related

in real gt races contacts are normal, what chuyler made to nic is not normal. sure if you watch nascar you cannot know what a rase really is
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You are talking about one incident, of which i appologized for...and there was quite a bit of contact between Nic and i prior to him ending up in the wall. If i recall, I rubbed him entering the esses at 150 mph when we were side by side, a section of the track that is difficult to run 2 wide since you are braking heavily. he hit me afterward putting my car in the dirt, then my car drifted in The last few corners and the rear of my car bumped him into the wall as it swung around. I was not in total control and i admit that.

If necessary, i could come up with over a dozen poor taste passes by you in my videos...calculated intentional contact. Drivers make mistakes but you simply have a habit of pushing other cars off their line. It is clear that you find this acceptable, which is why you wont be participating in our races anymore.

Trash talk all you want and call us NASCAR watching, granny driving rednecks...but the fact is, we have more fun the nights you dont show up.
 
Cool! See ya tonight if I FR you right now...!
 
k_riens
He said the TT night. It was a couple months ago, but I still have 3 replays from that night.




Also who has pic for Thursday 1 make.

The finish was :

1. Wiifreak
2. iforcev8
3. Twitchie
4. bullseye916
5. me
6. Nic
7. chuyler
8. dabney....
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it was laguna seca
 
chuyler1
You are talking about one incident, of which i appologized for...and there was quite a bit of contact between Nic and i prior to him ending up in the wall. If i recall, I rubbed him entering the esses at 150 mph when we were side by side, a section of the track that is difficult to run 2 wide since you are braking heavily. he hit me afterward putting my car in the dirt, then my car drifted in The last few corners and the rear of my car bumped him into the wall as it swung around. I was not in total control and i admit that.

If necessary, i could come up with over a dozen poor taste passes by you in my videos...calculated intentional contact. Drivers make mistakes but you simply have a habit of pushing other cars off their line. It is clear that you find this acceptable, which is why you wont be participating in our races anymore.

Trash talk all you want and call us NASCAR watching, granny driving rednecks...but the fact is, we have more fun the nights you dont show up.
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yes for sure... :yuck: why did you sent me that message btw?
 
I sent it after the first race last night, which should put it in context.
 
I don't know what the issue is here - as I haven't really kept up on this thread the last few weeks & have not read all the posts regarding whatever issue happened with AOK - have had a lot going on, but I heard that AOK was being discussed (from someone who has read the recent threads & mentioned it to me).

I'm not here to change anybody's mind about anything - because that's not my business, nor does it make a difference to me what you guys do.

But since the Spitfire races were mentioned, I will say I'm the primary host & organizer of the Spitfire series. Triumph Spitfire 1-make sprint race series, on sports soft tires, strictly following the GTP OLR Rules, with post-race penalties for race incidents.
We do not make the penalties public, only adjusted 'official' finishing positions are posted. There were only 4 incidents in total through 24 races (across 2 series in 3 divisions).
One was likely due to the "invisible car problem" - and after that we started doing "vision checks" before the races.
In 2 of the incidents, post-race penalties which changed finishing positions resulted. In both cases, the racers who caused the incidents accidentally requested to be penalized.

AOK participated in 6 event races, and some practice races too.
AOK was not involved in any contact incidents.
I watched the replays of all his races, he did nothing at all improper. There were no complaints lodged against him, he incurred no in-race nor post-race penalties.

And it IS true that AOK received nothing but compliments on his driving.
Both publicly, and privately, there were only compliments to AOK.

I can't speak for AOK's driving in any other events I didn't see.
I did watch as a spectator one night with races with AOK in the 450pp Tuners races... and there too, never saw anything wrong with his driving.

I have no wish to argue with anyone about AOK or anything else.
I don't care what you guys do or don't do, regarding AOK or anyone else.

But based upon all my experience with AOK, I would welcome him to any race I host/organize. He would be subject to the rules, of course, and I would feel confident that he would abide by them, racing clean & fair, because I've never had any reason to doubt it, based on my experience.

I just felt it was my duty to back up AOK's claim, which is the truth, that he received nothing but compliments in the Spitfire races, from the people competing with him.

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Oh, and personally, I have a high regard for his sportsmanship... Since he did poorly in just one race - the one on my custom track (Mount TopMore)... and he was a good sport about it. He didn't give up even though he was clearly less practiced on it than the rest of us. And he wasn't at all sour grapes about his loss on the custom track. He was good-natured about it. 👍
 
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My apologies to grenade. Bumped him on lap 3 and then nearly killed him lap 4 of Cote de Azure.
 
Thanks for adding my Chuyler. I wanted to race last night but couldn't find you on the GT5 in game friends list for some reason. I did a room search and couldn't find you guys there earlier.

I know I haven't raced at all in the series but I noticed in all the kerfuffle above that "full damage" was mentioned. I for one do not like full damage. I'm as clean as a whistle but it always seems to be me that gets rear ended and divebombed going into a corner and gets damaged and my race is ruined even though I never made contact with anyone. If full damage is on I likely would not join. I'd rather just deal with offending drivers and get rid of them, as opposed to punishing the innocent along with them as full damage often does.
 
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