American Le Mans Series (ALMS) - Season IV [COMPLETED]

[phil bell]

Even with all the go fast bits it still cant match the other cars for straight speed, darn. Up for practice one of these days?

 

[james6653]

How would point work if I had a backup driver drive for me on the weeks I can't make it would he get the points or would I get them all them or would they be split between the two of us

 

[phil bell]

Im going on to practice abit now. Feel free to join.

 

[Kevin01SH]

Im going on to practice abit now. Feel free to join.

I just got done with some practice myself, very pleased with my times so far. Was able to squeeze out a 1'30.5, but i imagine ill be racing in the 31's to save tires.

 

[phil bell]

Im getting low 33's after a few laps, the Lotus is hard to drive.
It needs a tune to make it more stable stopping, Im getting oversteer everytime I go near the brake pedal and even carrying it in.
It also has quite abit of understeer mid corner now so Im obviously going in the wrong direction with setup.

Here is the current setup:

Suspension
ride height: 0 0
springs: 12.0 13.0
damp comp: 6 5
damp ext: 6 5
roll bars: 4 5
camber:1.9 1.2
toe: 0.00 -0.08

Differential
initial: 14
accel: 18
braking: 22

Any tips?

 

[PAWEL17]

Try this

Suspension
ride height: -25 -24
springs: 10.5 15.5
damp comp: 6 6
damp ext: 2 2
roll bars: 4 3
camber:1.2 2.0
toe: -0.10 0.20

Differential
initial: 5
accel: 52
braking: 22

BB: 7 5

 

[phil bell]

Noted mate, thanks! Will try it real soon.

 

[Kevin01SH]

Im getting low 33's after a few laps, the Lotus is hard to drive.
It needs a tune to make it more stable stopping, Im getting oversteer everytime I go near the brake pedal and even carrying it in.
It also has quite abit of understeer mid corner now so Im obviously going in the wrong direction with setup.

Here is the current setup:

Suspension
ride height: 0 0
springs: 12.0 13.0
damp comp: 6 5
damp ext: 6 5
roll bars: 4 5
camber:1.9 1.2
toe: 0.00 -0.08

Differential
initial: 14
accel: 18
braking: 22

Any tips?

Depends on what the weight distribution is and your ballast position, but in general if you're getting understeer then your front end is too tight. Try lowering the spring rate to 11.0, compression stroke to a 4 and lower the camber to 1.0 and see how that feels.

On the other side if you're getting oversteer its likely because the Evora has most of its weight in the rear. Moving the ballast forward is probably the best thing to do, also eliminating the negative toe in the rear. If anything you want positive toe to help stabilize the car on entry.

 

[joetruckv8]

Im getting low 33's after a few laps, the Lotus is hard to drive.
It needs a tune to make it more stable stopping, Im getting oversteer everytime I go near the brake pedal and even carrying it in.
It also has quite abit of understeer mid corner now so Im obviously going in the wrong direction with setup.

Here is the current setup:

Suspension
ride height: 0 0
springs: 12.0 13.0
damp comp: 6 5
damp ext: 6 5
roll bars: 4 5
camber:1.9 1.2
toe: 0.00 -0.08

Differential
initial: 14
accel: 18
braking: 22

Any tips?

Try this

Suspension
ride height: -25 -24
springs: 10.5 15.5
damp comp: 6 6
damp ext: 2 2
roll bars: 4 3
camber:1.2 2.0
toe: -0.10 0.20

Differential
initial: 5
accel: 52
braking: 22

BB: 7 5

Talk about 2 different setups 💡

 

[freshseth83]

I was able to get 31.1 with the Evora, then 32.8s for 2 laps and dropped about a second after that to the 35s before having to pit lap 7. Brake bias I try is 7/4, toe I used was -.15 f/r. Could get more out of it if I tinker with it more.

 

[ITCC_Andrew]

Im getting low 33's after a few laps, the Lotus is hard to drive.
It needs a tune to make it more stable stopping, Im getting oversteer everytime I go near the brake pedal and even carrying it in.
It also has quite abit of understeer mid corner now so Im obviously going in the wrong direction with setup.

Here is the current setup:

Suspension
ride height: 0 0
springs: 12.0 13.0
damp comp: 6 5
damp ext: 6 5
roll bars: 4 5
camber:1.9 1.2
toe: 0.00 -0.08

Differential
initial: 14
accel: 18
braking: 22

Any tips?

Rear diff braking sensitivity should make it more stable. Try 15 or so. Also, ballast further forward. Porsches don't brake well in the rain-there's a reason for that.

 

[Storm_SP17]

Im getting low 33's after a few laps, the Lotus is hard to drive.
It needs a tune to make it more stable stopping, Im getting oversteer everytime I go near the brake pedal and even carrying it in.
It also has quite abit of understeer mid corner now so Im obviously going in the wrong direction with setup.

Any tips?

I can consistently drive high 1:30's with the Lotus Evora for the first few laps, and I'm only hitting 1:33's after the 5th or 6th lap. I'm using the following:

Ride Height: -25mm (F) / -25mm (R)
Spring Rate: 10.7 / 14.3
Ext. Dampers: 6 / 6
Com. Dampers: 6 / 6
Anti-Roll Bars: 3 / 3

Camber Angle (-): 3.0 / 2.5
Toe Angle: -0.25 / 0.10

LSD:
Initial Torque: 10
Accel. Sensitivity: 30
Braking. Sensitivity: 10

Brake Balance: 7/6 or 6/5 (Depending on how hard you brake...)

The Braking Sensitivity is at 10 because you'll notice in the settings guide that its actually deceleration, not braking in general. That should give you oversteer if you're the type that prefers to let the car turn without punching the throttle until you've crossed the apex. I have weight distribution at 40/60, which gives less weight bearing down on the front and hopefully improves the front tyre's longetivity.

The suspension is stock, minus 1 kgf/mm from the rear. To be honest the front probably won't even need 10.7 kgf/mm, since there's 5% less weight on the front in comparision to the usual MR cars. The dampers (the rear espescially) should theoretically make the car stable under braking, and anti-roll bars give it enough weight transfer to turn through the bends. The camber angle, gives the front end greater turning ability, and you might even be able to add even more toe-in and negative camber to abuse this.

Lastly, the brake balance is simply so that there's more understeer upon entry to a corner, since the front is braking harder and earlier than the rear. If that's still a problem with both of those, try 7/5 or 6/4, just be prepared to brake earlier.

Rear diff braking sensitivity should make it more stable. Try 15 or so. Also, ballast further forward. Porsches don't brake well in the rain-there's a reason for that.

On a non-changeable weather track like Indy road course, I disagree with your choice, but that's ONLY because there's no option to change the weather for this track.

 

[hawkeye122]

Just Re-read the op.

GTPlaneUsername:Hawkeye122
PSN:gdwest1
Class:LMP (GT if needed)
Careugeot 908 HDi FAP Team Peugeot Total (Aston Martin V12 Vantage)

I'd like to register my "Official" interest as a Guest at Laguna Seca, La Sarthe, and the Endurance round at the Nurburgring, in addition to being a reserve driver for whichever team needs it (GT or LMP)

 

[Tower Turn 13]

There are already two 908s, but maybe they'll make an exception. If not I hear the Bently's quite good.

 

[hawkeye122]

So the 2 liveries dont count as separate cars..

In that case, I'll use the C60 Hybride or the Speed 8.

 

[polarbear345]

Hey I was checking out the first post, I'm on the inactive list. Maybe you guys missed my post about me being moved to either the reserve list or being taken off all the lists. I just don't like being the only person in the inactive list when I pretty much said take me out.

 

[ITCC_Andrew]

Hey I was checking out the first post, I'm on the inactive list. Maybe you guys missed my post about me being moved to either the reserve list or being taken off all the lists. I just don't like being the only person in the inactive list when I pretty much said take me out.

We'll miss you! Heheh, see you @ Monza! On Friday! lol

 

[joetruckv8]

Porches in the rain; true that MrMelancholy15!

 

[Tower Turn 13]

So the 2 liveries dont count as separate cars..

In that case, I'll use the C60 Hybride or the Speed 8.

Maybe they do. Not sure. But I remember the Speed 8 has always been a dominant car in this series. The C60 is fun to drive, too.

 

[Techy]

I think the Evoras main problem is it cant keep up. Everytime ive been in a lobby with someone using it, i honestly dont see it very often. gtamann did just fine with the Italia last season, so i know its not the driver. I watched one of his laps from friday and the straight line speed isnt even comparable to the field.

Yeah, I noticed the car falling back from GT drivers even when I'm drafting them. I'm sure just a little bit more horses will improve that but I'm not so certain. I think I was only able to reach roughly 185 mph on the speedway portion of the course.

 

[ITCC_Andrew]

Yeah, I noticed the car falling back from GT drivers even when I'm drafting them. I'm sure just a little bit more horses will improve that but I'm not so certain. I think I was only able to reach roughly 185 mph on the speedway portion of the course.

Arg, am I the only person who uses km/h? My bad, but, I got up to 315 km/h in draft, 300 km/h out of draft, in BMW.

 

[Tower Turn 13]

Yes F=freedom C=communist

Just kidding. Though whenever I use km/h I feel like I'm flying.

On another note I need to practice Indy way more. Anyone available tomorrow?

 

[ITCC_Andrew]

Yes F=freedom C=communist

Just kidding. Though whenever I use km/h I feel like I'm flying.

On another note I need to practice Indy way more. Anyone available tomorrow?

Sure, I am. I have been practicing a lot, but the Corvette seems pretty fast. I'll add you on PSN if not already.

Also, is there any preference between which reserves are allowed to stay? If we get another full lobby (fingers crossed,) and Storm's the first reserve driver, but sinladar shows up, would Storm have to cede the spot in the lobby?

 

[Tower Turn 13]

ok my psn is mockingbird00000 (that's 5 zeros).

I also just rewatched that pass at Long Beach by Scott Sharp over Jan Magnussen (I think it was him). Quite neat little trick, make the Vette defend the inside line then go wide and take the optimal line, pass on the track out. Fun to watch, even though I am rarely interested in what ESM is doing.

 

[ITCC_Andrew]

ok my psn is mockingbird00000 (that's 5 zeros).

I also just rewatched that pass at Long Beach by Scott Sharp over Jan Magnussen (I think it was him). Quite neat little trick, make the Vette defend the inside line then go wide and take the optimal line, pass on the track out. Fun to watch, even though I am rarely interested in what ESM is doing.

Yeah, sorry, I already had added you. Also, I might just have a lobby open and allow both classes to run free. Trolls get kicked, and I won't use mics (my mic's causing me to disconnect for some strange reason.) Other than that, obviously, tire wear will be on, and the settings will be as close to the real racing settings as possible.

Also, is there a link I could see for this pass at Long Beach? I'm notoriously the guy who can make any line work to get a pass, even if it takes six corners for my advantage to take hold (Suzuka, turn one, outside, side-by-side 'til turn seven, finally took the lead properly in turn eight. ) Therefore, I like seeing other people being creative.

 

[Techy]

That pass in Long Beach was very clever. I'd thought they would end up neck-in-neck.




I need some practice as well. I had a lot of school stuff to do and wasn't able to touch my PS3 for a couple of days after the first round.

 

[Tower Turn 13]

The whole race is posted under the video segments on the ALMS main page. The pass happens in the last 15 minutes or so, as well as the pass by the 007 Aston over Falken Porsche.

 

[gogatrs]

Arg, am I the only person who uses km/h? My bad, but, I got up to 315 km/h in draft, 300 km/h out of draft, in BMW.

'Mericuh.

 

[ITCC_Andrew]

The whole race is posted under the video segments on the ALMS main page. The pass happens in the last 15 minutes or so, as well as the pass by the 007 Aston over Falken Porsche.

'Mericuh.

Thank you TT13... is it bad, that I don't actually know that main page site? Oh well, I guess that's what google's for.

And, lol, gatrs, at least you know how complicated your country makes things...

 

[gogatrs]

Thank you TT13... is it bad, that I don't actually know that main page site? Oh well, I guess that's what google's for.

And, lol, gatrs, at least you know how complicated your country makes things...

http://www.americanlemans.com/ 👍

And I try to use the Metric system whenever possible with distance. I think it's a good habit to get in to. I can't do it with speed though.