American Muscle (Week 2): Seattle (w/ Results)

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'69 SS
T1: 22.054
T2: 1:09.260

Never raced with ACM on until now, increased it a little bit and netted me a faster time. Gotta go play with those settings a little more.
 
Hey, whats up gang? I got my times for Seatle. Anyway, what are the fastest splits?

T1: 22.765
T2: 112.991

Check Ya later
 
Picking up a second in 14 minutes is something we all envy... You don't exactly suck. :lol:
 
T1: 21.225 T2: 110.281
I this is it for tonight. IDK though.

Darkwind....what was that about the tires slashed???
 
wow... *slashes everyones tires* mwaha, maybe now I have a chance >_< er... *buys everyone new tires when he sees the rope slung over a tree*
 
C'mon Dw, do you have to be surly now? :lol: And the rope wasn't mine... I'm the one that had a .45 Colt.
 
T1: 22.178
T2: 1'10.994

I've got a lot of time I can save here ... should be able to get a couple of extra seconds at T2, easily enough.

This Z28 is just lovable ... I'm going around corners like Starsky & Hutch; Seattle is such a fun course.

** Question: I have an INSANE amount of oversteer under power coming out of a turn ... the back wheels man, they have waaaaaaaaay too much torque ... I would have been better running less power and grabbing a 1.5LSD, but I'll leave that for the half way mark of the season. In the meantime, how can I try and dial this heavy assed back end out a little bit???
 
Lower ballast from 90 down to something a tad more reasonable like 40... experiment. You do have until Sunday, you know. :D
 
Jetboys427
C'mon Dw, do you have to be surly now? :lol: And the rope wasn't mine... I'm the one that had a .45 Colt.

Meh, I had a bad day. I was planning on learning more "throttle control*" with the Cuda, but got called into work instead.

* By throttle control, I mean going full throttle or off the throttle just enough to clear the turn so I can save as much time as possible since the car stops everytime I tap the break.... *breaths*
 
Jetboys427
Lower ballast from 90 down to something a tad more reasonable like 40... experiment. You do have until Sunday, you know. :D

Oh yeah, I know ... just trying to learn this beast :p
 
darkwind
wow... *slashes everyones tires* mwaha, maybe now I have a chance >_< er... *buys everyone new tires when he sees the rope slung over a tree*

You fixin' for a hangin'
 
Yellow '69 (C3) Vette at Seattle Reverse:

T1 - :20.228 (Need a 20.0xx that I have gotten many times)
T2 - 1:05.800 (everything right after T1 was to my standard perfect)

Need to hit this again with a .2 faster T1 is my goal. I have 5 days

jump_ace
 
Some initial, weak, splits, 16 laps

T1: 20.983
T2: 1'08.223

Using TCS=1, ASMs=1. As the week progresses I may be able to turn off TSC. If I can get about 2.5s out of T2 I'll be happy. Not sure if its possible or not. Lotta work ta do.
 
Hey darkwind...you slash my tires I'll put you in my trunk for ballast...oh the Vette doesn't have a trunck...I guess I'll have to tie you to the wing? I wonder what that'd look like in photo mode...would you show up in my mirror view?
 
goixoye
Hey darkwind...you slash my tires I'll put you in my trunk for ballast...oh the Vette doesn't have a trunck...I guess I'll have to tie you to the wing? I wonder what that'd look like in photo mode...would you show up in my mirror view?

LOL...good one man. I would also suggest that you take off the ASM and not really use it, unless its a slow FF. And if u can manage some throttle control on this Vette try with no tcs. Now right after the T1 is IMO the most crucial part of the track. Those railroad tracks are VERY KEY here as they decide how you enter the longest straight of the track and you can lose .5 sec ATLEAST in a blink of an eye here. So try with no tcs and when you are running over them keep the throttle below half way and wait until you completely clear them before flooring it. And since you are at half throttle really concentrate on positioning your car to hit the outside of the rumble strip on the left.

jump_ace
 
goixoye
Hey darkwind...you slash my tires I'll put you in my trunk for ballast...oh the Vette doesn't have a trunck...I guess I'll have to tie you to the wing? I wonder what that'd look like in photo mode...would you show up in my mirror view?

I put a couple dead hookers in my 'trunk' but found that their weight didn't help much. I slipped them in Kolyana's Camaro.

(I know I am stealing the dead hooker joke from someone else)
 
Reminds me of a bumper sticker I saw the other day on a Caddy driven by a lady:

"I have a great body. Unfortunately it's in the trunk and starting to smell." :D
 
There are two dead hookers in my trunk? I wondered why my CD changer had stopped working. Still, the ballast seems to be working, so I'm going to leave them there for now.
 
Well If i had two "hooker's" in my trunk, i think the wife would be getting suspious. I leave those to the rest of you. Although one might make the right ballast.
 
Frogger1971
Well If i had two "hooker's" in my trunk, i think the wife would be getting suspious. I leave those to the rest of you. Although one might make the right ballast.

"I swear honey, they're only there for the ballast!"
 
Hey all, I am not active in the series. Rather, I am tagging along one week behind to see where I would hold in the standings. I don't doubt my driving capabilities, in real life anyway. I worked at an indoor go-kart track where one of the fringe-benefits was free seat time. I also have tracked my Rabbit with NASA on Sears Point. Driving with two sticks under your thumbs and a controller in your hand is another story though. Hence my hesitation to join the league for real. I like the fact that the Camaros are allowed enough HP money that the supercharger is a viable option, it's a great boost in TQ numbers, but I have a bias towards the '69 Vette in GT4.

Those of you driving "my car" may I ask you to message me the pieces you chose to buy and what settings (if any) you have? I see the 3 of you with independant rear suspension and a stock weight bias of 49/51 are pretty well clustered together in the standings. Did you settle for the stock 4 speed? Did you upgrade the '60s technology suspension or brakes? The Corvette is one of a few old cars that can have a wing, are you utilizing straight-line speed robbing downforce to corner quicker? The game gives you better tires than the "pizza cutter" bias ply tires, but did you opt for the stickier S3 tires? I imagine that GT4's S3 tires are similar to the new Falken Azenis RT615 or possibly the Toyo Proxes RA-1 that Speed World Challenge drives on. Those are both very capable and sticky tires while maintaining DOT approval.

The game replicates stock handling fine, but let me tell you that the stock front coil springs and single rear transverse steel 7-leaf spring don't cut it. I prefer my car (from a performance standpoint) with Gymkhana spec. 550 lb./in. front springs and a 360 lb./in. fiberglass rear leaf. I also have the car sitting on (4) 295/50-15 wheels and tires. In the future those will jump to ZR-1 spec. 275/40-17 front and 315/35-17 rear (wrapped on the ZR-1 'A-mold' GM wheels) since my fronts rub the swaybar and inner fender when I turn to the extreme right and left. More rear rubber is because I'm not going to leave my powerplant stock, nor naturally aspirated :D

I know it sure doesn't look like a 1969: it's not stock. I'm building a stroker 383 "old standby" for now. Some previous owner modified the rear upper deck to have the rear bubble window from the 1978-1982 years, and while that's more aerodynamic, it's going back to stock someday. The front fenders are from the 1970-1972 "egg-crate" years and are another 'back to stock' item. The VIN code and its history say it's a bonafide 1969 built in St. Louis though.

It may be black now, but the door code 976, and the badly painted spots tell of a LeMans Blue past. LeMans Blue and Daytona Yellow are my two favorites on that car. I'll paint it LeMans Blue alright, but I'm leaning towards the 2004 version of the color.
 
Well ~ Seems I am locking down this week little better. Hitting T1 around 22'ish now... so Kittens are a purring :p
 
63AvantiR3
Hey all, I am not active in the series. Rather, I am tagging along one week behind to see where I would hold in the standings. I don't doubt my driving capabilities, in real life anyway. I worked at an indoor go-kart track where one of the fringe-benefits was free seat time. I also have tracked my Rabbit with NASA on Sears Point. Driving with two sticks under your thumbs and a controller in your hand is another story though. Hence my hesitation to join the league for real. I like the fact that the Camaros are allowed enough HP money that the supercharger is a viable option, it's a great boost in TQ numbers, but I have a bias towards the '69 Vette in GT4.

Those of you driving "my car" may I ask you to message me the pieces you chose to buy and what settings (if any) you have? I see the 3 of you with independant rear suspension and a stock weight bias of 49/51 are pretty well clustered together in the standings. Did you settle for the stock 4 speed? Did you upgrade the '60s technology suspension or brakes? The Corvette is one of a few old cars that can have a wing, are you utilizing straight-line speed robbing downforce to corner quicker? The game gives you better tires than the "pizza cutter" bias ply tires, but did you opt for the stickier S3 tires? I imagine that GT4's S3 tires are similar to the new Falken Azenis RT615 or possibly the Toyo Proxes RA-1 that Speed World Challenge drives on. Those are both very capable and sticky tires while maintaining DOT approval.

The game replicates stock handling fine, but let me tell you that the stock front coil springs and single rear transverse steel 7-leaf spring don't cut it. I prefer my car (from a performance standpoint) with Gymkhana spec. 550 lb./in. front springs and a 360 lb./in. fiberglass rear leaf. I also have the car sitting on (4) 295/50-15 wheels and tires. In the future those will jump to ZR-1 spec. 275/40-17 front and 315/35-17 rear (wrapped on the ZR-1 'A-mold' GM wheels) since my fronts rub the swaybar and inner fender when I turn to the extreme right and left. More rear rubber is because I'm not going to leave my powerplant stock, nor naturally aspirated :D

I know it sure doesn't look like a 1969: it's not stock. I'm building a stroker 383 "old standby" for now. Some previous owner modified the rear upper deck to have the rear bubble window from the 1978-1982 years, and while that's more aerodynamic, it's going back to stock someday. The front fenders are from the 1970-1972 "egg-crate" years and are another 'back to stock' item. The VIN code and its history say it's a bonafide 1969 built in St. Louis though.

It may be black now, but the door code 976, and the badly painted spots tell of a LeMans Blue past. LeMans Blue and Daytona Yellow are my two favorites on that car. I'll paint it LeMans Blue alright, but I'm leaning towards the 2004 version of the color.

Nice car man. My first thought was "That's not a '69!" but then I read the rest :)

I'll pm you my full setup if you want.

Anyway I encourage you to join - you've only missed one race, and this series has attracted everyone from top of the GT4 drivers to people just starting out - it's all for fun :)
 
The setup would be cool, thanks.

I've got an Excel spreadsheet open with allowed modification money and costs of parts. Now I know how the U.S. automaker bean counters feel, "Cut this part out." "Spend less there." "This bushing costs too much." "We gotta get under budget :irked:!" I would much rather we build cars and then price them, like the rest of the world does. We aim for a price range and then build the car to meet it... :yuck:

Unfortunately it's not back on the road yet. Amongst some other things, I am saving for some AFR 195 heads (about $1300+/- fully assembled). Hard to do whilst in school.
 
Nice vette. I expected coming into this competition that the Superbird and Vette, and probably the Shelby, would dominate this competition. However I at least like seeing my Camaro mates working this Seattle track underneath the vettes and superbird.
 
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